Now this would be an interesting build.

I was searching for some more info on the T-28 tank and came across this picture. Certianly would make an interesting model.

Anigrand makes a resin one in 1/72 scale: http://www.anigrand.com/

Direct link to item: http://www.anigrand.com/AA2045_A-40.htm

Seems like I find someting I would bet the fam on there can't possibly be a model of and there is. Too, bad its not 1/35, but you can't have everything. I might just have to snatch one of those bad boys up.

Thanks for the link.

No problem. I have a couple of their 1/72 scale kits. Both are prototype flying Jeeps, but I think one is OOP. Nice little kits. I think someone used the Start tank kit to scratchbuild this thing in 1/35 scale.

Thanks again. I like doing the odd ball stuff out there when i can find it. The internet sure does help with that. I think I will add one of those to my list when I can squirle away a few extra bucks.

You know how big it would be in 1/35?

Dragon wouldn't do it either since there isn't a version with captured German markings.

That would be rather large in 1/35. Of course ifyou used forced perspective in a dio you could mix the scales.

Sometimes my ideas out pace my abilities.

I saw this crazy thing on the History Channel. If someone had told me about it without showing me a photo to prove it I'd never believe such a thing ever existed.

Flying tanks were a popular idea in the 30s - allegedly J Walter Christie was thinking along the same lines, but only the RKKA got very far with the concept.

Makes sense though when you consider the alternative



David

Didn't the Soviets experiment with parachute dropped personnel carriers? With the crew combat ready inside, although after landing the crew was not quite as combat ready as the top brass would have liked...

Henk

Fancy this method of travel?

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/R-5.html

David

I was under the impression that hte BMD series were airdroppable today with the crews inside.
There are pics in the Concord Russian Para's book of one rigged up, coming out the back of the ac, landed, and driving away. When the thing hits it's burried wheels deep!
That's gotta be quite a jolt for the poor buggers inside!

Mike

Walter Christie's idea was meant to allow a tank to fly a short distance, more to fly over trenches etc, rather than to be air delivered to a battlefield. Many of these designs would have been influenced by the memories of the First World War, and most Armoured Doctrine was centred around fighting a similar war in future. British designs centred around the large, slow, moving pillbox (as did the Russians, with their multi turreted tanks) that would just trundle across the trenches and wasteland.
The fast and mobile deployment of Armour was advocated, but not really accepted on the Allied side, where the Army (and Armoured Corps) were largely staffed by Officers who did not subscribe to all this new fangled warfare, as it interfered with their old fashioned 'tally ho old chap' attitude.
Ironically, the Germans who are commonly seen as the inventor of the 'Blitzkrieg' got their ideas from the British....

Well, Soviets did drop troops out of slow/low flying aircraft, into deep snow, in the Finland war. However, as can be imagined, it did not work out so well and the practice stopped. So even parachutes are a luxury!

BMD series CAN still be dropped with vehicle crew inside, but the practice is rare right now since there is no need to put the crew's health potentially at risk. The very occasional accident will happen with a BMD drop, but unless the parachutes completely fail to deploy (think crater at the end.) then the worst injuries seems to be broken limbs or concussions. However, according tomy sources, there have been less than 10 fatalities in BMD droppings, actual and practice, due to the drop itself since they started chucking them out the back of aircraft, and fewer injuries overall once they went to the multiple parachute arrangement over the 1 large parachute and retro-rocket setup.

As for the picture in the Concord book, the vehicle side-slipped ont he ground, so it scraped up all that dirt, it did not drop that deep into the earth.

Sheesh, what will they think of next....ships that go UNDER the water??? I laughed out loud when I saw the pic of the tank being dropped from the bomber... I imagine the queue-up of volunteers for that program wasn't very long.

Well the Sov's did create a plane/submarine. I saw pictures of it once (can't remember where now... of course!). And I did see it on the History channel program mentioned above. Along with the famous Pykrete (sp) aircraft carriers that were allegedly tested in a Canadian lake?

-Mike

That bomber dropping the T-37 into the lake is like a primitive LAPES.
The Low Altitute Parachute Extraction System (LAPES) was used by the US to drop AFVs. The idea was (maybe still is) to mount an AFV on a sled inside a cargo plane and us ea parachute to pull it out at ultra-low altitude.

You'd see a C-130 come roaring in about twenty feet off the ground with the rear ramp open, and out would pop a big chute. Then the M-551 would come out and hit the ground, slide along for a little bit, and when the dirt cloud cleared there's your tank.

I believe the British Army tried the same thing but called it ULLAD or something like that - Ultra-Low level Aerial Delivery ?

don't know about dropping AFV's like that, but the Brits do deliver supplies like that. I used to collect milk from a farm which was next to (well, right under the flight path... ) a airfield where they practise the low level approach, drop, and pull out. Repeatedly.....

I tell you, there are not many more trills like standing in the dark and quiet night, picking up the faint sound of the four props, getting slowly louder, and suddenly bursting out just above you when the C130 pulls up at full throttle.... The sight of the C130 slowly pulling away that close, silhoueted agaist the dark sky is a sight to behold.....