Could anyone help with a better, higher resolution image of this photograph? Are there other images of these vehicles anywhere on the web?
A while back I came across a model of this HMMWV but I can't find my link to the site, can some one direct me to this model (site) and its maker?
Much appreciated
Bill

Horray
I found the project I was looking for after all this time.
The original photo, at least on the web. I have another image of it in a book called Special Forces by David Miller, page 217.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Operations/Desert_Storm/Operations3.htm
And the model.
http://www.track-link.net/gallery/2460
A beautiful model by Jirka Skarka
It was on Canada's own Track Link web site!
Bill

I'm going to refresh this old topic, and I've got some questions, expecially for William.

- what is this device in red ellipse?
- what is this in blue ellipses (darker areas with white stripes)? Is it a word "SLING"? But why white, I saw only black ones on Humvee photos.
- is there a third Humvee on this photo (in green ellipse)? Has it a gun mount on pillars?

I know, that answer is "no", but I'm going to ask - has anybody any other photos of Scud Hunter Humvees?;)

Kuba
I have PMed Jiri to ask him to respond to your questions. I know as much as you do but since he built the model I thought he might know more details.
http://www.track-link.net/gallery/2460
Please post your findings.
Regards
Bill

I asked Jirka Skarka some time ago about this, but got no reply. Maybe You will have more luck.
I know one modeller in Poland who is building Scud hunting version of Humvee now (in 1/72nd scale - here is the link to polish forum: http://modelwork.pl/viewtopic.php?t=6394&start=0). He tries to get sme informations from his sources and of course if I know something, I'll post it here.

Kuba
Thanks for the link, it is amazing knowing that it is 1/72 scale.
Well Jiri if you are out there please respond, "what goes around comes around" like they say around these parts.
Bill

Interesting stuff,

The vehicle in the rear looks like it could be a truck (M35A2?)

Some other details:

- MAG/ M240 already well in use. Long before the official intro in the Army
- paint camouflaged rifles, see standing figure in rear Humvee

Hello everybody,

sorry for not coming back earlier, I just returned from my ski-holidays in Austria. Thanks for all your trust, but I am not sure I am the right person to help. I am definately not a US vehicle specialist and there was a lot of improvisation when I built my "scud hunting" Humvee...

The rear vehicle. I think there is a trailer behind the 2nd Humvee which is towed by the vehicle at the very end. This vehicle can be either a Humvee with a frame and a ring or another soft skin deployed in Iraq in 91´. However the frame with the weapon mount ring is obvious (This is a question to all the US vehicle specialists )

The rectangles on the hood. No idea! Because they don´t seem to be regular, I think they were made with a sticky tape, but for what purpose ...???

The "thing" in front of the driver. I started a forum about that while building my kit and most of the replies were, that it might be either a range finder, compass or some kind of navigation. It seems me like the driver of the first Humvee put his googles on it.

I am sorry I couldn´t help more. If there is somebody who knows, please let us know...

Best regards

Jiri

To me it looks like the vehicle in the back is a Land Rover (the ring and dash mounted machine gun would support this). US Army Special Forces teamed up with the British SAS to do a lot of the SCUD hunting and operated in joint patrols if memory of the secondary information serves me right. This could just be a picture thereof.

Joe
The ring mounted MG does look like the kind the Brits mount on their Land Rovers and they were in theater at the time of the scud hunters. HMMWV's have right hand side MG mounts as well. I wonder if this is the same time frame of Bravo Two Zero?
I wish I could find a better quality picture of this image but I expect it would have surfaced by now.
Thanks Jiri good of you to comment.
Kuba good luck, I have a HMMWV set aside just for this project but I wanted to get more details so please share them if you find them.
Regards
Bill

They do, but from most of the ones I've seen they're scissor type mounts where one might expect to find the rear view mirror rather than dashboard mounts like those commonly found on Land Rovers. I'm sure someone will go out and find me a picture of a HMMWV with a dash mount, but I think the scissor types have been more common. There's a drawing in Osprey's book about US Rangers depicting a M151A2 with a M2 tripod mounted backwards for an improvised dash mount. I don't think there's been a standard purpose built dash mount since those designed for the M38. Again, I could easily be wrong.

Examples of the scissor mount:
Picture 1
Picture 2

Joe
I went through my pictures of HMMWV's and found no picture of an MG mounted other than those shown in your example. It won't take long though for Frenchy to come up with one if they exist ;0)
Bill

That's 100mph tape securing pieces of glint tape to the hood. It's far larger than it needed to be. A 1 inch square is sufficient. Any more creates a bloom that degrades observation from aerial platforms.

Dear Joe, dear Bill,
these HMMWVs are definately from Bravo-2-0 period, however at that time the SAS´s Land Rovers had no weapon ring mounted. It was just a simple roll bar behind the driver´s and commander´s seats. Also, all the SAS´s LRs were right hand drive so the machine gun mount would have to be on the oposite side

I really wonder what the vehicle is.

Jiri

As I type this, I am sitting next to a retired 5th Grouper who was one of the "Scud Hunters." He does not recognize the vehicle, nor did his team use anything remotely similar. Of course, the source of the photo may know more. (Not being fecitious, there was obviously more than one team out there during the "first great mobilization exercise.")
Both of our thoughts, if it was indeed used in this role, is that the device on the hood is an LTD, although again, it doesn't make sense as it's usually humped in and not vehicle mounted. It would have to be removed from that location in order to be used, but lacking any other photo that's the best we can come up with.

Rob
I'd like to spend an hour or two with your buddy and you, over a pint or two of beer. I bet I'd have so many model ideas I'd never build them in a life time(or two).
Not to be too thick, LTD, lLocation Transmission Devise? Could the box be a gimbaled compass like the fishermen use here in Newfoundland?
There has to be some one out there that knows more about these vehicles?
Thanks
Bill

Didn't even think of the RHD issue. Doesn't look at all like a HMMWV. Too skinny for one. Hilux?

I'll do you one better. Ask him whatever you want yourself. Check PM's for email addy.

You're throwing me a line Bill Unfortunately, I haven't found much interesting stuff. The only pics I have that maybe show a dash-mounted MG are these below (it's rather hard to tell for sure, at least for me ) . The pictured HMMWVs are Marine Recon vehicles at the beginning of OIF in 2003...







HTH
Frenchy

LTD= Laser Target Designator, used to paint targets for LGBs.

Go to the head of the class.