M1/York Conversion Progress
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:46 PM UTC
Here are some in-progress photos of the Tamiya M1 engine grill part. On the left is the plain kit piece (this one was painted desert sand) and on the right is the unpainted modified one.
The taillight guards are from the Eduard PE set for the Academy kit, the white items are bits of styrene strips. Note the hollowing out of the underside of the tow pintle mount to further accurize the piece.
Not added yet are the lifting rings that go on the top edge of the piece. I figured I would put them on after the hull was assembled so I don't break it off.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 03:29 PM UTC
It's a good start, Rob. The back of both the DML and Tamiya pieces bothered me because of missing or low quality details like the vanes under the grill and the thick light guards. It is nice to see someone acually address these.
Rob
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 06:59 PM UTC
too much detail for my eyes even with the magni-visor
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:46 PM UTC
Nice work Rob on the rear panel. Can't wait to see more. You sure gonna have a lot to do for this kit.
Those angle of the vanes looked dead on. They appeared to be of very very close to some pic I had seen for Abrams taken by Rob recently, well, have access to real vehicle definitely helps....hehe....you two lucky Robs, I envy you guys for your ease of access to real tanks!!!!
Keep them pics coming.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:47 PM UTC
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Those angle of the vanes looked dead on
Wow, its comments like this that make me realize how much there is too learn in this hobby! I have to stop building just oob and start researching more of what I do to become a better modeler.
From my experience in the chat room, both Rtwpsom2 aka Rob and Dave are extremely talented and knowledgeable modelers that are great sources of information and always willing to help.
This website is the greatest!
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:44 AM UTC
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I envy you guys for your ease of access to real tanks!!!!
While have several tanks less than a hundred feet from my office is handy, it does lead to AMS. I've taken several photos, printed them out and use them as references. Still not satisfied with the lower portion of the center grill and will rework that in the days to come. I need to finish this piece so I can assemble the hull.
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Posted: Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:02 PM UTC
Good Job Robin.. Can't wait to see more.. must be nicer working in large scale!
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Posted: Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:27 PM UTC
Any more pics of what else is going on with the build??
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 04:00 AM UTC
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Any more pics of what else is going on with the build??
I've neglect to take more photos, but will do so this afternoon. I painted the turret last night and added some external fittings like a TC's M-60 machine gun from the old Tamiya M151A2 kit, smoke grenade boxes just forward of the grenade launchers, a spare road wheel to the turret side and a 5 gallon can rack with a water can in place. I was going to wait until daylight today to take some decent photos.
Some work on the hull includes mounting the tow cables to the hull side, finishing up the rear grill area and attaching the upper hull to the lower hull. The tracks are cleaned up and ready to be fitted, but still require painting. I added the heater exhaust pipe, fire extinguisher handle and bilge pump outlet to the upper hull. Side skirts will be added after the tracks are done. After seeing USMC tanks with retaining rings on the sprockets, I decided to add these to the kit as well. The sprockets received the mud holes in each half.
I'm using the full side skirts since I figure duck hunters won't be maneuvering their vehicles the same way tankers would and thus would be more careful by not having the skirts all torn up.
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 04:05 AM UTC
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Any more pics of what else is going on with the build??
Some work on the hull includes mounting the tow cables to the hull side, finishing up the rear grill area and attaching the upper hull to the lower hull. The tracks are cleaned up and ready to be fitted, but still require painting. I added the heater exhaust pipe, fire extinguisher handle and bilge pump outlet to the upper hull. Side skirts will be added after the tracks are done. After seeing USMC tanks with retaining rings on the sprockets, I decided to add these to the kit as well. The sprockets received the mud holes in each half.
I'm using the full side skirts since I figure duck hunters won't be maneuvering their vehicles the same way tankers would and thus would be more careful by not having the skirts all torn up.
AHHH, Rob you big teaser!!!!! PICTURES!!! PICTURES!!!! PICTURES!!!!! Now everyone chant with me!!! PICTURES!!!!......
Rob in all seriousness, it sound cool, and will look forward to the pics!!!!
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:33 AM UTC
Here's some fuzzy photos I just took. It starting to get dark so I may try again tomorrow.
You should be able to get a good idea of the looks of the vehicle. The barrels and radar equipment are not mounted.
In the first photo, you can see the road wheel, water can and the M-60 mount is just above the two of them.
The M-60 mount was scratch built from the M151A2 wading guard and a piece of tubing.
The 5 gallon water can and road wheel came from the Tamiya Modern Armor Accessory Set.
The 5 gallon can rack is a photo etched item from On The Mark.
The white object on the top photo is the bilge pump.
The white hole in the hull side is the heater exhaust.
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:43 AM UTC
Looks good... so good I had to remindmyself that turret was never suppose to go on that chassis!!!
Look forward to seeing more....
Nate
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 02:36 PM UTC
Looked awesome Rob, this is one mean looking AA piece. But I bet my Apache still can take it out....
This looked good, by the way, how do you plan to put the tracks on, seems a bit difficult with the side skirt installed.
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 03:02 PM UTC
The side skirts are just tacked on with masking tape for asthetics. I just found a photo of an actual M247 in my New Vanguard M47 and M48 Patton Tank book. It shows an M-60 mounted forward of the TC's hatch, a regular one like the one I'm going to use.
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Posted: Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:44 PM UTC
Hi Rob, any more in progress for this? really wanna see more of this amazing conversion....
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Posted: Monday, May 26, 2003 - 07:10 PM UTC
Yeah, more fotos, I still have difficulty in believing in the York project but it's looking very good, Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:56 AM UTC
I've not been working on the kit since the Cold War Cook Off group build began. I've been working on the Tamiya T-62A for that build. Once that project is done, I'll start on the York again. It actually looks pretty good.
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:25 AM UTC
gonna look very cool, nice work
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:45 AM UTC
Sabot,
The conversion is coming along really nice. How many scale feet tall do you think that thing will be when it is finished (radars on, etc.)? That side view reminds me of the ironclad Monitor. Certainly not a low profile beasty. Really cool idea and exacution...
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Posted: Monday, July 07, 2003 - 07:29 PM UTC
Hi Lord Sabot,
Any update on this amazing conversion? Can't wait to see more.
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Posted: Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:57 PM UTC
It's on hold while I attempt to finish CWCO and Barbarossa...
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 03:30 AM UTC
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It's on hold while I attempt to finish CWCO and Barbarossa...
So many kits, so little time. I know the feeling, but do look forward to seeing this completed, especially the paint/weathering, as all the Modeler of the Month folks on this site are top shelf. Looking foward.
Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 02:46 AM UTC
Sabot, I know this is a dumb question but is this happening for real? I mean this is just a model right?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:17 AM UTC
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Sabot, I know this is a dumb question but is this happening for real? I mean this is just a model right?
Hi BF, welcome to the site. It's not for real, Sabot made that up.
it never existed....it's a build of a what-if tank. Can't wait to see it finished. be so cool!!!!.
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