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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:32 AM UTC
I'm looking for some information. Are there any kits out there of Vietnam era construction equipment in 1/35 scale. Bulldozers, graders, dump trucks, cargo trucks, etc. I have been looking with little success. Also, does anyone have any reference as to how Navy vehicles (Jeeps, MUTTs, trucks, etc.) were marked in Vietnam (serial numbers, units, colors, etc.), are there any books on the subject.

What I am trying to accomplish is a diorama dealing with SEABEEs in Vietnam. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:04 AM UTC
I know that MIG Productions makes some const. equipment in 1/35 but im not sure if it would be "accurate" to put it in a 1960's scene.
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:13 AM UTC
Trucks........ My guess would be M35's & M54's (plus the Dump variants) Unsure of what model Tractors & Dozers would have been at thier disposal at the time. There's a good selection fo Diecast & Toyish vehicles n 1/32 (close enough in scale for some people)

the Mig Tractor / loader is a Bit new for 'Nam.............
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:25 AM UTC
There are a couple of pictures in Edward J Marolda's excellent "The US Navy in the Vietnam War - An Illustrated History", there's one of an M35 truck with tipper trailer, and a conventional looking macadam laying machine building a road... and a small dozer clearing land.
See also here:


Hope this helps
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 09:37 AM UTC
AFV Club has an M35A1 guntruck that can be built as a standard M35A1 2 1/2 ton truck. There is also a resin dump bed conversion for it, can't remember by whom though; maybe MR Models.

Revell/Monogram has an old 2 1/2 ton M34 Engineer's truck too. It comes in and out of production pretty regularly.

There are a couple resin bulldozers that might work too. They look like the one pictured above. Sorry, again I don't remember who makes them.

Academy has a great M151A1 MUTT as well.

Hope those help.
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:39 AM UTC
The only 1/35 US dozer kits I know are both WW2 dozers. One is a Caterpillar with Le Tourneau blade released by Resicast :

the other is a Clark CA1 airborne dozer made by Calibre 35 :

I wish someone could release a Vietnam-era D7 !

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:45 AM UTC
The above two are the ones I was thinking of. I guess they don't really look that much like the above pic.


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I wish someone could release a Vietnam-era D7 !



That and how about a nice Rome Plow while we are at it??
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:03 AM UTC

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That and how about a nice Rome Plow while we are at it??



I definitely agree Gino

BTW, I remember coming across a nice scratchbuilt 1/35 Vietnam D7 (on a scratchbuilt lowboy trailer) but the name of the modeler escapes me

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:14 AM UTC
I am surprised there is nothing on the civilian side of modeling. Construction Equipment is just sooooo cool
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 01:27 PM UTC
Their isan't much in 32 or 35 scale.. Most is in 1/50 scale, and it is modern.. Check this site though..

http://www.3000toys.com/
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BTW, I remember coming across a nice scratchbuilt 1/35 Vietnam D7 (on a scratchbuilt lowboy trailer) but the name of the modeler escapes me.



I remember one too that was a Rome Plow on an M15A1 trailer behind an M123A1C. I used the truck and trailer as one of the references when I did mine.
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:17 PM UTC

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BTW, I remember coming across a nice scratchbuilt 1/35 Vietnam D7 (on a scratchbuilt lowboy trailer) but the name of the modeler escapes me



Now I remember ! It was Shane McKay's impressive work :

(click on the thumbnail to enlarge)

More pics in Shane's Webshots photo album

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:18 PM UTC

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BTW, I remember coming across a nice scratchbuilt 1/35 Vietnam D7 (on a scratchbuilt lowboy trailer) but the name of the modeler escapes me



The modeller in question is Shane MacKay. I'll tell him about this thread.

Cheers - Dan

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:30 PM UTC
be sure to check out Dan's website.
He has a great photo of himself in the "about me" section.
Nice to see another one with a great sense of humor.
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 08:24 PM UTC
That Clark airborne dozer is tiny - about 2 inches long...
I looked a while ago for diecast metal dozers with not much luck... Britains do some 1/35th tractors and trucks but no dozers as far as I could see.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 12:13 AM UTC
NGZ makes some 1/32 and 1/35 Diecast stuff.......... Which could be used as a starting point... for a scratchbuild.......maybe

1/35 Case 850c dozer

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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 04:21 AM UTC
Hi guys
Dan was saying somebody was hunting me down about my Rome plow project. It's been a few years since I did the project but I'll try give a brief over view. The M123 was Tank Workshops M123 with a portion of the cab parts being stolen from an old AFV club M35 model I had lying around and scratch parts. The flat deck is a M172 trailer that was scratch built with the said M35's rear tires.
Now the big part of the project the D8 Rome plow was in large part scratch built with the exception of the engine and the tracks. I wanted the engine exposed so I had in my spares box an old engine from the monogram 1/32 army wrecker kit so I used it. The tracks were another story I look for a source all over the place but the stuff I was finding were these rubber band type toy tracks until I found this 1/50 scale diecast Terra crawler from Cat they were metal individual linked(the only problem was the toy itself was 80 bucks, good thing I'm not married ) The rest I sure you can get from the assembly picture. I'll explain more of the details further have to get back to work now
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 05:42 AM UTC

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There are a couple of pictures in Edward J Marolda's excellent "The US Navy in the Vietnam War - An Illustrated History", there's one of an M35 truck with tipper trailer, and a conventional looking macadam laying machine building a road... and a small dozer clearing land.
See also here:


Hope this helps



Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the above mentioned book? Does anyone know how much detail, if any, it gets into about markings, painting, etc?

Thanks for all of the great information guys. I got more then a few ideas now. It would be nice to have some heavy equipment but I am no scratch builder, at least not the point of making a bulldozer. I think I will stick to the available kits for now and use the heavy equipment for a WWII project. I would like to have a SEABEE diorama for WWII thru OIF, Vietnam is just my main area of interest.

Is there any good way to copy the contents of this thread outside of a straight cut and paste?

Thanks again!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 05:44 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 06:09 AM UTC
Thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:57 AM UTC
Hi Andy
Check out this site lots of good pictures in the picture section WW2-OIF
http://groups.msn.com/815thEngineers/_whatsnew.msnw
This a good picture of the M123 and the M172 combo
http://groups.msn.com/815thEngineers/pokeyjoespics.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1687
Seeya Shane
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Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 09:17 PM UTC
Great thread!
Too bad there are so few pictures on this subject, but here’s some I found:











The army also must have had ‘roadrollers’ for road- and airstripconstruction.
And resicast does (did?) a caterpillar D7 dozer, could be a start to scratch a romeplow.

Good luck with your Seabees dio!

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 09:28 PM UTC
almost forgot: the US also used this crane in Vietnam:


and btw revell did a few 1/32 vehicles that could be of some use:
http://www.revell.de/de/produkte/modellbau/easykit/baufahrzeuge/index.html

best regards
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Posted: Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 01:58 AM UTC
Other Vietnam war dozers (15th Engineer Battalion) :


I think they're not Caterpillars
Another Rome Plow in action :


The Dozerpage is an interesting webpage about US military dozers (WW2 & Vietnam)

HTH

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