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Italian "maiale" in harbour
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 01:12 PM UTC
Hi,

I found this diorama very weel executed and I don't see anything wrong with your positioning, building etc.
Keep up the good work

Best,

Julien
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 01:21 PM UTC
Looking good, I like the new layout.
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 01:30 PM UTC
I don't want to sound like a pain in the butt, but if you allow me, I noticed a historical inconsistency. I don't think any American came in contact with any "maiale" while in Italy (the few left in Spain were interned), although one was shipped to the US for inspection, but it was provided by the Royal Navy. As far as I know, after the Italian surrender, the Royal Navy took the entire project over (including some Italian officers) to develop the "chariot."

Maybe you should just change the markings on the jeep and use a British figure? ;-)

BTW, your work is very nice.
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 01:32 PM UTC
Hi Jan

I am glad you went with the building as a part backdrop. I t is looking really nice with the doors, gutters and down pipes standing out well. That roof is smashing though it will be interesting to see how you stop off the roof light at this angle. Are you intending to make a small section of flat roofed area with a basic glazed front to the dormer.

There is a lot of ways that you could clad the dormer roof and cheeks, with wriggely tin for the roof and timber for the cheeks being the option I think I would have chosen. Lead sheet would be another that could be dressed down the cheeks as well as over the flat roof section. Verticle tiles of a flat profile for the cheeks could be used for a slight contrast of roof surface too.surfaces.

I don't see any problem with the proximity of the sub to the steps as any crane that might be to the left could have sufficient span to reach over the top and then to swing out over the steps and lay the sub into the water right beside and to the left of those very steps.

Great work

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 01:36 PM UTC
Another way to face off the roof light would be simple louvres to provide simple venting of the warehouse.

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 04:02 AM UTC
Another update - roofs still unpainted - anybody dare to guess how its done



and a closeup



Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 10:34 AM UTC
Tin foil ? , good finish !!
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 10:43 AM UTC
Hi Jan

are you putting a couple of rusty plates on to keep the wrigglie tin down in high winds?

looks really nice

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 08:14 PM UTC
Tin foil - yes, or rather the stuff on winebottles - and a quite special tool, normally found in our bathroom and used to squeze the last toothpaste out

I“m not sure about putting some steel profiles on the roof, its relatively small and I want to let the colors give it life with colorvariation from plate to plate.

When the roofs painted and the gutter fixed I think the storehouse is ready for some washes and wheatering.

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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 09:16 PM UTC
Nice diorama and good progress, Jan. Cool idea about the tin foil plates for the roof.

Godt arbejde - looking forward to see more
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2008 - 01:36 AM UTC
Hi Jan
No need for large steel profiles.

The fixings for the real wrigglie tin would normally be nothing more than a small plate say 50mm x 50mm with a bolt or screw into the timber trusses below spaced to suit the roof timbers and located either at the top of the curves or in the troughs depending on the spacing.

You could add a light rust staining and dirt around the plate and bolt caused by the contact of the differences in metals.

Nige
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2008 - 02:03 AM UTC
Ah Nige, now iI get the meaning - yes today you would use bolts or screws with a disc to spread the pressure -back then large nails would be the way to go - but I dont have much in terms of referances - so I dont know if square or round or any plates at all where used - might just stick to nails to be sure...

Something that have surpriced me is that galvanizing was used befor the war - so it would propable be correct to assume that these treated and painted - so some nails would be a good reason/excuse to ad some rust
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:56 PM UTC
Slowly progressing, the basic structures are done exept for more washes and dusting...

Now on to all the bits and pieces normally found on harbours.





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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:43 PM UTC
Looks great so far.
I certainly hope you are going to write a feature on this one Jan.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 09:19 PM UTC
Maybe Dave .. if I ever get it finished

Well doing a little progress on the bits and pieces normally found around a harbour, and some slightly confused US soldiers.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 09:58 PM UTC
Hi jan,

very nice work.

Al
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 10:00 PM UTC
Hi Jan,

your figures look really nice, the same for the stuff you put on the diorama. You can even put some gulls on your dio, that would truely give a harbour feeling.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 10:29 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Looks great so far.
I certainly hope you are going to write a feature on this one Jan.



My sentiments exactly Jan!

Your dio is looking Primo, mate...I would sure welcome an "On Display" feature over at MSW, my friend (and the subject matter is perfect... )

Cheers,
~Gunny
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 10:38 PM UTC
Hi, the overall look and feel is really great. Superbe job!

Cheers
Claude
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 12:37 PM UTC
Thanks guys!

Seagull is a must - but I guess it boils to if can sculpt one or find one ... seagull droppings are needed too
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 08:01 PM UTC
A little more to fill up, a Preiser 1:35 cart filled with gauze and some poles to illustrate some fishing gear. The gauze is glued with thinned white glue and painted and washed afterwards



Added a layer of Acryllic Gel Medium - it dryes up transparant and can be shape a bit to illustrate small waves etc..



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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 09:02 PM UTC
He Jan,

it's becoming better and better, always looking for your updates!

However I have a bit of doubts on putting fishing gear on your dio. I guess fishermen were not allowed on military property, so maybe you should concentrate on putting stuff related to the sub on your dio.

Its just a thought!

Jelger
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 - 04:16 PM UTC
Thanks Jelger - I had the same thought myself, but then again, its nearing the end of the war, Italy has officially surrendred and dicipline is slack or nonexistant - I guess that this were pretty confused - thats my excuse anyway
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 - 04:23 PM UTC
really nice work!
looking forward to more progress
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 - 09:39 PM UTC
I feel I“m getting close, this is a layout I think is ok, still some washes to do and a little more bits and pieces in the corners.