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Updating DML's 1/35 Maus 'Super-tank'
Bratushka
Joined: May 09, 2008
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2008 - 01:41 PM UTC
What a great piece of work! I hope to follow it through to completion. I think the kit may have been reissued because I just bought one from eBay fpr $69.00. I have since seen them in several other places as well. I haven't begun building it yet and likely won't for a while. I did order a PE detail set already and the motor/transmission set as well. I hadn't read your piece at the time or I may have thought twice about buying it. But, just having something to see between the grille slots would be fine with me. Thank you for listing the parts you used because a better barrel was my next quest. Somewhere I came across some photos of a kit that the builder had installed twin 88s in. Quite an impressive looking piece! Again, I tip my hat to your artistry and thank you for sharing.
CmdrCody
Joined: June 19, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 04:51 PM UTC
I too am folllowing the progress of your build of the Magnificent Maus. Very informative on what you have accomplished so far. I really like what you have done to the drivers position and thanks for posting that pic, I have never seen that one. You might be interested in the Yoshida Designs Maus intake grills photoetch set. It is by far more accurate than the Eduard grills. I searched for a long time to find them for my Maus project, and just recently came across them. I look forward to your next updates, your build has inspired me to dig out my Maus and try to finish it. Don M.
Jamesite
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:51 AM UTC
After shamefully abandoning this project earlier this year to persue other builds, it seems some renewed interest has appeared that should shame me into getting some more done on this project!
James, thankyou for your very kind words, as mentioned this project is currently on stand-by, but I need to get cracking as the deadline for the idea experiments campaign is approaching! If you have any questions or need any info on the Maus feel free to get in touch.
Don, thankyou. I'm glad I have inspired you to get your own Maus out. That photo etch set is excellent and matches the real grills well. Unfortunately I have already fitted the Verlinden mesh, so am perhaps a bit late to fit these grills. Where did you purchase them from though? I may consider getting a set.
You will be glad to hear that despite having this project on the back-burner so to speak, I have made a little more progress than is shown in this thread, as the interior and engine 'drop-in's' are complete. I'll try to take some pics in the near future to give you something else to wet your appetite!
Thanks for your posts,
James
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What a great piece of work! I hope to follow it through to completion. I think the kit may have been reissued because I just bought one from eBay fpr $69.00. I have since seen them in several other places as well. I haven't begun building it yet and likely won't for a while. I did order a PE detail set already and the motor/transmission set as well. I hadn't read your piece at the time or I may have thought twice about buying it. But, just having something to see between the grille slots would be fine with me. Thank you for listing the parts you used because a better barrel was my next quest. Somewhere I came across some photos of a kit that the builder had installed twin 88s in. Quite an impressive looking piece! Again, I tip my hat to your artistry and thank you for sharing.
James, thankyou for your very kind words, as mentioned this project is currently on stand-by, but I need to get cracking as the deadline for the idea experiments campaign is approaching! If you have any questions or need any info on the Maus feel free to get in touch.
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I too am folllowing the progress of your build of the Magnificent Maus. Very informative on what you have accomplished so far. I really like what you have done to the drivers position and thanks for posting that pic, I have never seen that one. You might be interested in the Yoshida Designs Maus intake grills photoetch set. It is by far more accurate than the Eduard grills. I searched for a long time to find them for my Maus project, and just recently came across them. I look forward to your next updates, your build has inspired me to dig out my Maus and try to finish it. Don M.
Don, thankyou. I'm glad I have inspired you to get your own Maus out. That photo etch set is excellent and matches the real grills well. Unfortunately I have already fitted the Verlinden mesh, so am perhaps a bit late to fit these grills. Where did you purchase them from though? I may consider getting a set.
You will be glad to hear that despite having this project on the back-burner so to speak, I have made a little more progress than is shown in this thread, as the interior and engine 'drop-in's' are complete. I'll try to take some pics in the near future to give you something else to wet your appetite!
Thanks for your posts,
James
GaryGore
Joined: November 05, 2006
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 06:19 AM UTC
CmdrCody
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 04:16 PM UTC
James, no sweat about the putting a project on the back burner, I do it on a regular basis. I got the Yoshida Maus grills from Rob Ervin over at Formations Models. He does all the great resin goodies for the Sherman tank. He posted on another site that he had a few sets of PE and after a couple of emails and a phone call I had my Maus grills in a couple of days. Great dude to deal with. Lookin forward to yor next update. Don M.
http://www.formationsmodels.com/Yoshida_Designs_Photo_Etch.html
http://www.formationsmodels.com/Yoshida_Designs_Photo_Etch.html
Jamesite
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:12 PM UTC
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James, no sweat about the putting a project on the back burner, I do it on a regular basis. I got the Yoshida Maus grills from Rob Ervin over at Formations Models. He does all the great resin goodies for the Sherman tank. He posted on another site that he had a few sets of PE and after a couple of emails and a phone call I had my Maus grills in a couple of days. Great dude to deal with. Lookin forward to yor next update. Don M.
http://www.formationsmodels.com/Yoshida_Designs_Photo_Etch.html
Thanks for the heads-up guys. I'll see whether it's worth getting a set, when I dig the box out.
Cheers,
James
Bratushka
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 11:14 AM UTC
First, thank you to CmdrCody for the post of the Maus PE. I went to the site and ordered a set. I owe you another thanks because I recently watched Kelly's Heros again and got a notion to build Oddball's Sherman. The first thing I saw at the site was a kit to build it and had to order that as well!
Now, a couple of question. I have seen a resin V2 Maus turret by Atelier Infinite Models being sold on eBay for about $60.00 Buy It Now. Aren't resin turrets solid cast so there is no way to view any internal vehicle detail through open hatches, covers or what have you? Second- is there that much difference between what's in the kit and this turret?
My Velinden motor / transmission detail kit and the gun barrel arrived a few days ago. I ordered a book on the Maus which should arrive next week. I decided for now to wait on the decision to use the solid road wheels or buy the ones with holes based on what the book shows. I like the looks of the solid ones better on such a massive vehicle. I am not going to start building it until this project is complete to give me a standard to try to build to. It will be worth the wait.
Again, thanks to all for the indispensible information.
Now, a couple of question. I have seen a resin V2 Maus turret by Atelier Infinite Models being sold on eBay for about $60.00 Buy It Now. Aren't resin turrets solid cast so there is no way to view any internal vehicle detail through open hatches, covers or what have you? Second- is there that much difference between what's in the kit and this turret?
My Velinden motor / transmission detail kit and the gun barrel arrived a few days ago. I ordered a book on the Maus which should arrive next week. I decided for now to wait on the decision to use the solid road wheels or buy the ones with holes based on what the book shows. I like the looks of the solid ones better on such a massive vehicle. I am not going to start building it until this project is complete to give me a standard to try to build to. It will be worth the wait.
Again, thanks to all for the indispensible information.
CmdrCody
Joined: June 19, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 03:41 PM UTC
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First, thank you to CmdrCody for the post of the Maus PE. I went to the site and ordered a set. I owe you another thanks because I recently watched Kelly's Heros again and got a notion to build Oddball's Sherman. The first thing I saw at the site was a kit to build it and had to order that as well!
Now, a couple of question. I have seen a resin V2 Maus turret by Atelier Infinite Models being sold on eBay for about $60.00 Buy It Now. Aren't resin turrets solid cast so there is no way to view any internal vehicle detail through open hatches, covers or what have you? Second- is there that much difference between what's in the kit and this turret?
My Velinden motor / transmission detail kit and the gun barrel arrived a few days ago. I ordered a book on the Maus which should arrive next week. I decided for now to wait on the decision to use the solid road wheels or buy the ones with holes based on what the book shows. I like the looks of the solid ones better on such a massive vehicle. I am not going to start building it until this project is complete to give me a standard to try to build to. It will be worth the wait.
Again, thanks to all for the indispensible information.
Jim, glad to help out with the Formations site, great stuff there.As far as the resin turret from Aletier Infinite Models, I've seen the one one ebay. You can also check out Hobby Link Japan's site. There are some better pics of the turret and They have all the Maus and E-100 from Atelier Infinite on their site. I have been tempted to order some of the Maus wheels, but they are out of stock right now, Maybe soon. Don M.
SJPONeill
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 11:27 PM UTC
I've been working up a similar build of the Dragon Maus for about ten years now...comes and goes as the mood takes me...a point to note on the Verlinden transmission set. I bought mine in 1999 and the instructions weren't very clear so I emailed Verlinden for clarification on a couple of points. Their response to my questions was pretty much that they didn't know as the guy who cretaed the masters had moved on on and it was quite likely that this set was a product of his imagination!!
I'm on the road for the next week or so at least but somewhere at home I have a photo or drawing of the Maus transmission bay and it looks like the bay runs right across the width of the vehicle and is not the separate bays that Verlinden give you...I doctored up some extra bits that looked about right to fill the gap last time I was working on the Maus - last winter I think...
I'm on the road for the next week or so at least but somewhere at home I have a photo or drawing of the Maus transmission bay and it looks like the bay runs right across the width of the vehicle and is not the separate bays that Verlinden give you...I doctored up some extra bits that looked about right to fill the gap last time I was working on the Maus - last winter I think...
Jamesite
Joined: December 05, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 08:38 AM UTC
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First, thank you to CmdrCody for the post of the Maus PE. I went to the site and ordered a set. I owe you another thanks because I recently watched Kelly's Heros again and got a notion to build Oddball's Sherman. The first thing I saw at the site was a kit to build it and had to order that as well!
Now, a couple of question. I have seen a resin V2 Maus turret by Atelier Infinite Models being sold on eBay for about $60.00 Buy It Now. Aren't resin turrets solid cast so there is no way to view any internal vehicle detail through open hatches, covers or what have you? Second- is there that much difference between what's in the kit and this turret?
My Velinden motor / transmission detail kit and the gun barrel arrived a few days ago. I ordered a book on the Maus which should arrive next week. I decided for now to wait on the decision to use the solid road wheels or buy the ones with holes based on what the book shows. I like the looks of the solid ones better on such a massive vehicle. I am not going to start building it until this project is complete to give me a standard to try to build to. It will be worth the wait.
Again, thanks to all for the indispensible information.
Jim,
Yes an oddball sherman is on my to-do list too, Kelly's heroes rocks!
I have seen solid resin turrets and ones with a seperste base which are hollow, have a good look at the pics for it and if any of the turret sides or the roof or top are seperate chances are its been moulded so that it should be hollow, if it looks one peice you may not be in luck!
As for if there is any major difference, well it depends. If memory serves me correctly, they do 3 turrets, one that is basically a copy of the kit one, but is probably a little better detailled and has the side ports in the correct place. one that is the 'late version' (this may be the V2 you mention) with a periscope removed and covers over the side hatches, and a '46 model which is an imaginary version of what may have been, this is more intended for the E100 and is a re-shaped Maus turret with a range finder in the front and spare track hangers on the side.
I had a good look at these when buying the parts for my kit and decided that they are not worth the cash as the conversions and fixes are easy for the average modeller to do with the kit turret.
As for waiting for my build to be complete, I applaud your patience! However, im starting up again now so your wait may not be too much longer! I'm very greatful you think i'm setting a standard here, hopefully I won't disapoint!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 08:57 AM UTC
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Jim, glad to help out with the Formations site, great stuff there.As far as the resin turret from Aletier Infinite Models, I've seen the one one ebay. You can also check out Hobby Link Japan's site. There are some better pics of the turret and They have all the Maus and E-100 from Atelier Infinite on their site. I have been tempted to order some of the Maus wheels, but they are out of stock right now, Maybe soon. Don M.
Yes Don, the HLJ site is probably the best source of Maus upgrade parts, and the altier infinate site gives you the full idea of their range. I also used Hannants in the UK for the Eduard etch and Jordi Rubio Barrel.
I now have even more references from TFG who kindly donated a book of his to my cause, and which I will try and share the info with you. It clearly shows the Maus with solid wheels when first delivered to Boblingen testing grounds from Alkett who build the hull in Berlin. This was on March 1st 1944, the hull is primer red and (solid) wheels dunklegelb and the turret is missing. However, when the turret was delivered by Krupp on April 9th (delayed by bomber attacks on Essen) and fitted, the pictures show the wheels with the holes fitted while still in red primer, indicating they were fitted between this time or around the same time as the turret.
In later photos when the Maus displays a dunklegelb base with what is probably olivgrun and rotbraun disruptive camouflage and all German photos of the Maus from this point appear to show the wheels with holes fitted and so its is probably the most common configuration if you want to portray V2. However, there is a 'studio' shot of V2 that appears to show the solid wheels and the poor quality pics of the destroyed Maus are difficult to interpret. It is possible the solid wheels were re-fitted later on and so you could use the kit wheels, however, in my opinion, the complete V2 with turret is better represented by the wheels with holes.
I am happy to back this up with pictures if anyone wants? Hopefully this helps you guys out anyway!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 09:09 AM UTC
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I've been working up a similar build of the Dragon Maus for about ten years now...comes and goes as the mood takes me...a point to note on the Verlinden transmission set. I bought mine in 1999 and the instructions weren't very clear so I emailed Verlinden for clarification on a couple of points. Their response to my questions was pretty much that they didn't know as the guy who cretaed the masters had moved on on and it was quite likely that this set was a product of his imagination!!
I'm on the road for the next week or so at least but somewhere at home I have a photo or drawing of the Maus transmission bay and it looks like the bay runs right across the width of the vehicle and is not the separate bays that Verlinden give you...I doctored up some extra bits that looked about right to fill the gap last time I was working on the Maus - last winter I think...
Hi SJPONeill,
Its a big project alright!
Yes the Verlinden instructions aren't great, but I find they aren't too bad to get right as there isn't much construction to do!
I have some original German drawings of the Maus in my book (I think possibly the Porsche ones) and in my opinion the Verlinden kit is a pretty good match (in fact I think the guy who made the masters probably copied the Porsche drawings!) While the overhead view does appear to show a long compartment, I have a cross section across half of the transmission and it does show they are located in 3 seperate compartments. But, the 'walls' between them are considerably thinner than the edges of the verlinden parts, if you wanted them to be to scale you could use some 20 thou plastic card to replace them, but they are so well hidden under the grills that it probably wouldn't be noticeable!
Good luck with your ongoing build though, i'd love to see how you've got on!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 09:21 AM UTC
Ok, finally an update!
I finished painting all the interior parts. I based my colours on my best interpretation of the following black and white pics I have of the interior and engine and transmission compartments and a bit of educated guesswork!
And my interpretations;
Drivers compartment:
The engine and transmission compartments:
Hopefully i'll be posting more regularly from now on!
All feedback is welcome and thanks for looking,
James
I finished painting all the interior parts. I based my colours on my best interpretation of the following black and white pics I have of the interior and engine and transmission compartments and a bit of educated guesswork!
And my interpretations;
Drivers compartment:
The engine and transmission compartments:
Hopefully i'll be posting more regularly from now on!
All feedback is welcome and thanks for looking,
James
TacFireGuru
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 09:24 AM UTC
James,
That is looking SOOOOOOO good! And, looking forward to your continued updates!
Mike
p.s. Go figure...got another MAUS headed my way! Heheheheh!
That is looking SOOOOOOO good! And, looking forward to your continued updates!
Mike
p.s. Go figure...got another MAUS headed my way! Heheheheh!
Jamesite
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 07:43 AM UTC
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James,
That is looking SOOOOOOO good! And, looking forward to your continued updates!
Mike
p.s. Go figure...got another MAUS headed my way! Heheheheh!
Mike, I'll take this opportunity to thank you again for the book, its turned out to be a real asset.
Glad you like the work so far, i'll aim to keep everyone updated.
Another Maus? Good luck!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 09:37 AM UTC
Ok, Some progress,
First up, I added the only bit of the verlinden set that is seperate (making painting these parts a very delicate buisness), I beleive its part of the exhaust in the main engine bay. It was delayed while it got a coat of Mr. Surfacer!
However, my main acomplishment has been finally finishing all the bogey assemblies! man this has been a real undertaking!
These parts are very softly moulded by dragon standards, with prominent sink and mould seam marks. I also found one bogey on each spruce (there are 4 per spruce) had the nub that attached the road wheel missing, this appears to be a flaw in dragons moulds and so could be something to watch out for in other kits. I fixed it by drilling a hole and attaching copper wire to fix the wheel on. To fit the altier Infinate road wheels with the drilled holes the nubs on the bogeys also need cutting down to about 1/3 of their original length but this is easily done.
I now have the issue of how to paint and fix these and the tracks, as I think painting will be impossible to do accurately when its all in place and the hull side skirts are fitted. I think i'll paint these and the tracks before attching them and then mask them off during final construction and painting. Anyone else whos built the kit used a different method? Any suggestions?
Also completed is the external fuel tank, I had to remove the moulded on 'straps' as i'll be using the Eduard set to replace these, and so I had to take care to sand the drum to keep it circular. The seam required some filler, particularly the ribs running around the drum. I also moved the location of the filler cap slightly so that the Eduard strap would fit centrally.
That'll have to do for now, i'll update as soon as I get chance but i'm pretty busy at work at the mo.
James
First up, I added the only bit of the verlinden set that is seperate (making painting these parts a very delicate buisness), I beleive its part of the exhaust in the main engine bay. It was delayed while it got a coat of Mr. Surfacer!
However, my main acomplishment has been finally finishing all the bogey assemblies! man this has been a real undertaking!
These parts are very softly moulded by dragon standards, with prominent sink and mould seam marks. I also found one bogey on each spruce (there are 4 per spruce) had the nub that attached the road wheel missing, this appears to be a flaw in dragons moulds and so could be something to watch out for in other kits. I fixed it by drilling a hole and attaching copper wire to fix the wheel on. To fit the altier Infinate road wheels with the drilled holes the nubs on the bogeys also need cutting down to about 1/3 of their original length but this is easily done.
I now have the issue of how to paint and fix these and the tracks, as I think painting will be impossible to do accurately when its all in place and the hull side skirts are fitted. I think i'll paint these and the tracks before attching them and then mask them off during final construction and painting. Anyone else whos built the kit used a different method? Any suggestions?
Also completed is the external fuel tank, I had to remove the moulded on 'straps' as i'll be using the Eduard set to replace these, and so I had to take care to sand the drum to keep it circular. The seam required some filler, particularly the ribs running around the drum. I also moved the location of the filler cap slightly so that the Eduard strap would fit centrally.
That'll have to do for now, i'll update as soon as I get chance but i'm pretty busy at work at the mo.
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2008 - 09:13 AM UTC
Right, now the interesting stuff!
check out the size of the 128 mm KwK44 L/55!
The Fallschirmjager figure i've used for scale (and i'd note that this is one of the larger scale 1/35 figures!)
Here you can see that i've used the Altier infinate mantlet that is correctly shaped to depict the Maus' relitavely crudely machined mantlet. The mantlet for V2 was machined in a way to remove all excess material, presumably as a weight saving measure. This pic of the V2 turret on the Maus in Kubinka gives a good impression of the effect totally neglected in the DML part!
And for those of you thinking that the mantlet would be ok for a '46 model or something along those line i'd like to refer you to the following photo of a Maus hull captured by British troops at the end of the war. Note the two finished Maus mantlets in the upper right of the pic, both machined in the same manner as V2.
Going back to my build of the guns and mantlet. I added some machining texture to the resin mantlet as although the dimensions are great the texture is a little weak. However i feel I may have overdone it, time will tell....
The jordi Rubio aluminium barrel was used to replace the kit barrel, although it is a few mm shorter, not sure which is more correct. This barrel is also designed for the jagdtiger and so could be based on this barrel, is there any difference?
The kit barrel was used for the co-axial 75mm gun, sanded smooth to remove that annoying join seam, and the end of the barrel thinned out to better resemble the real thing.
Now i'm after some more advice....
The kit provides a 'support' that sits under the two barrels that a thinner replacement is provide for in the Eduard kit. However, I can only find one picture of the Maus with this fitted which is the following 'studio shot':
In all other pics I have there is a cover over the main barrel that although could be obscuring the support, it doesnt loot like it has the correct shape to be covering it. Added to this is the absolute lack of any signs of such a support being added to the V2 turret in Kubinka, and its absence on pics of the detroyed V2 (though it could have been 'removed' by the blast).
So does anyone have an opinion as to whether this should actually be attached or not? My feelings are that it shouldn't, but I could be biased as the Edurad part was such a £"$%&* to put together!
James
check out the size of the 128 mm KwK44 L/55!
The Fallschirmjager figure i've used for scale (and i'd note that this is one of the larger scale 1/35 figures!)
Here you can see that i've used the Altier infinate mantlet that is correctly shaped to depict the Maus' relitavely crudely machined mantlet. The mantlet for V2 was machined in a way to remove all excess material, presumably as a weight saving measure. This pic of the V2 turret on the Maus in Kubinka gives a good impression of the effect totally neglected in the DML part!
And for those of you thinking that the mantlet would be ok for a '46 model or something along those line i'd like to refer you to the following photo of a Maus hull captured by British troops at the end of the war. Note the two finished Maus mantlets in the upper right of the pic, both machined in the same manner as V2.
Going back to my build of the guns and mantlet. I added some machining texture to the resin mantlet as although the dimensions are great the texture is a little weak. However i feel I may have overdone it, time will tell....
The jordi Rubio aluminium barrel was used to replace the kit barrel, although it is a few mm shorter, not sure which is more correct. This barrel is also designed for the jagdtiger and so could be based on this barrel, is there any difference?
The kit barrel was used for the co-axial 75mm gun, sanded smooth to remove that annoying join seam, and the end of the barrel thinned out to better resemble the real thing.
Now i'm after some more advice....
The kit provides a 'support' that sits under the two barrels that a thinner replacement is provide for in the Eduard kit. However, I can only find one picture of the Maus with this fitted which is the following 'studio shot':
In all other pics I have there is a cover over the main barrel that although could be obscuring the support, it doesnt loot like it has the correct shape to be covering it. Added to this is the absolute lack of any signs of such a support being added to the V2 turret in Kubinka, and its absence on pics of the detroyed V2 (though it could have been 'removed' by the blast).
So does anyone have an opinion as to whether this should actually be attached or not? My feelings are that it shouldn't, but I could be biased as the Edurad part was such a £"$%&* to put together!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2008 - 09:33 AM UTC
And to continue the modifications to the kit turret so far:
1. The close defence weapon is 'inversley moulded' on the dragon turret, with the parts that should be indented actually raised. The Eduard set provides a good replacement which I added filler around the edges to nmake it look part of the turret rather than a thin plate sitting on top.
2. The holes for the two periscopes in front of the hatches were filled as the left one needs to be removed for the 'late' version of the turret, and the right one should be moved back by a few mm to be in the correct position.
3. The gunners sight is moulded solid at the front and so needs to be cut open as can be seen above the mantlet in the kubinka pic in my previous post. careful as the plastic is quite thick and needs the bare minimum removing to represent the real deal. Once done the sight shoult be added inside, this is a circular rod as seen in the upper left of the following pic:
4. next to be drilled out is the hole for the MG34 visible in pics of the destroyed V2 I drilled out the bulk of the indentation in the DML part but left a slight 'ledge' to rest a barrel on that I will add later.
5. The DML turret has a step in the base of the front face of the turret that shouldn't be there, going from a low angle to 90 degrees, and so the angled lower face should be lower angle throughout.
6. The turret side ports were filled, as firstly they need moving back by about a cm to be in the correct position, and secondly the late V2 turret had covers welded over the ports which i'll add later from plastic card or something similar.
Thats brought you up to date for now. As always I welcome all comments suggestions and questions.
James
1. The close defence weapon is 'inversley moulded' on the dragon turret, with the parts that should be indented actually raised. The Eduard set provides a good replacement which I added filler around the edges to nmake it look part of the turret rather than a thin plate sitting on top.
2. The holes for the two periscopes in front of the hatches were filled as the left one needs to be removed for the 'late' version of the turret, and the right one should be moved back by a few mm to be in the correct position.
3. The gunners sight is moulded solid at the front and so needs to be cut open as can be seen above the mantlet in the kubinka pic in my previous post. careful as the plastic is quite thick and needs the bare minimum removing to represent the real deal. Once done the sight shoult be added inside, this is a circular rod as seen in the upper left of the following pic:
4. next to be drilled out is the hole for the MG34 visible in pics of the destroyed V2 I drilled out the bulk of the indentation in the DML part but left a slight 'ledge' to rest a barrel on that I will add later.
5. The DML turret has a step in the base of the front face of the turret that shouldn't be there, going from a low angle to 90 degrees, and so the angled lower face should be lower angle throughout.
6. The turret side ports were filled, as firstly they need moving back by about a cm to be in the correct position, and secondly the late V2 turret had covers welded over the ports which i'll add later from plastic card or something similar.
Thats brought you up to date for now. As always I welcome all comments suggestions and questions.
James
H_Ackermans
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2008 - 12:09 PM UTC
The support under the 2 barrels is not a support, it is a deflector for the antennas. And considering the various options trialed, it is a part of the final design. Do you have Spielberger's SpezialPanzer book? This has pictures of the variations tested and trialed.
Also, PanzerWrecks 5 has several very good pictures of hulls and turrets at Meppen.
And your build is looking mighty fine!
Also, PanzerWrecks 5 has several very good pictures of hulls and turrets at Meppen.
And your build is looking mighty fine!
Jamesite
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 08:05 AM UTC
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The support under the 2 barrels is not a support, it is a deflector for the antennas. And considering the various options trialed, it is a part of the final design. Do you have Spielberger's SpezialPanzer book? This has pictures of the variations tested and trialed.
Also, PanzerWrecks 5 has several very good pictures of hulls and turrets at Meppen.
And your build is looking mighty fine!
Herbert, great to hear from you!
An antenna deflector! I swear I knew this prviously but completely forgot it's purpose!
No I don't have the books mentioned, i'm working from a vast array of pics and diagrams aquired via good old google and other sites along with those in the Maus book by Michael sawondy and Kai Bracher.
So if it was a definate part of the V2, turret did it have the raised section along half of the barrel of the 75mm gun as portrayed on the DML barrel? This seems to me as being incorrect and a way to get the antenna deflector to marry up to the 128mm barrel. I'd really appreciate any detail pics of this arrangement if anyone has them, or suggestions as to how best to construct this area, as it is probably the one area I have the least info.
I appreciate you like the work i've done so far, thanks!
James
jointhepit
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 08:26 AM UTC
this buid is so learnful
Thanks for haring your great work
GReetz
Thanks for haring your great work
GReetz
H_Ackermans
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 10:13 AM UTC
Ooow, you are going to be soooooooo happy:
If you wish, I can mail you the scans themselves, as Photobucket crops the images.
If you wish, I can mail you the scans themselves, as Photobucket crops the images.
Jamesite
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Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 - 06:44 AM UTC
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this buid is so learnful
Thanks for haring your great work
GReetz
Thanks mate, its great to hear that you're enjoying the build!
James
Jamesite
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Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 - 06:52 AM UTC
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Ooow, you are going to be soooooooo happy:
If you wish, I can mail you the scans themselves, as Photobucket crops the images.
Very very happy indeed!
Those pics are great, and yes I would really appreciate the originals, i'll PM you my address.
I would also really appreciate translations of the captions if anyone could? I'm guessing the last pics depict a wooden mock-up with different attempts at antenna deflectors?
Thanks again!
James
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Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 - 08:21 AM UTC
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Quoted TextOoow, you are going to be soooooooo happy:
If you wish, I can mail you the scans themselves, as Photobucket crops the images.
Very very happy indeed!
Those pics are great, and yes I would really appreciate the originals, i'll PM you my address.
I would also really appreciate translations of the captions if anyone could? I'm guessing the last pics depict a wooden mock-up with different attempts at antenna deflectors?
Thanks again!
James
That is entirely correct. The photo's show the 1:1 scale wooden mockup used for testing the various placements and designs for the deflector.
I'll send you the full scans ASAP.
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