hey ya'll
ive been thinking about gettilng verlinden figures. i have built some verlinden stuff ( a pain in the butt, i hate resin). im wondering what they look like when they come out of the box are they on sprues needing to be cut off and assembed, and do they come with directions? they looked very detailed are they though?
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PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 06:22 PM UTC
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 06:30 PM UTC
Resin figures are molded in soft rubber molds and have large pour blocks instead of sprues. These need to be sawed off with a suitable razor saw. Figures are assembled with super glue or five minute epoxy instead of plastic cement.
Resin figures can hold more detail than styrene figures, but it depends on the skill of the modeler who prepared the original masters and the company's manufacturing techniques (some companies replace the rubber molds often, others only when deterioration of the rubber becomes very apparent).
Personally, I don't care for the sculpting of Verlinden's figures. The set that I bought had no instructions, just a color photo of the finished figures. Some of their very old figures are white metal alloy rather than resin.
Resin figures can hold more detail than styrene figures, but it depends on the skill of the modeler who prepared the original masters and the company's manufacturing techniques (some companies replace the rubber molds often, others only when deterioration of the rubber becomes very apparent).
Personally, I don't care for the sculpting of Verlinden's figures. The set that I bought had no instructions, just a color photo of the finished figures. Some of their very old figures are white metal alloy rather than resin.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 06:33 PM UTC
There are no instructions...just the box photo. If you hate resin then you should stay away from Verlinden figures.....they are resin.
Most resin parts will be attached to small casting blocks....this requires cutting or sanding the casting blocks away.
Resin parts are usually more detailed than injection moulded parts.
Most resin parts will be attached to small casting blocks....this requires cutting or sanding the casting blocks away.
Resin parts are usually more detailed than injection moulded parts.
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 06:38 PM UTC
Gday Preston. Can be hit & miss with Verlinden. There is plenty of range... The quality does differ. I have some made with different resins; one quite brittle the other much softer. They generally have a pouring stub to remove. Be careful of scale too. Earlier 1/35 sets were large, even for 54mm size! No directions; you have to make do with the box art or some other reference. As for detail, this also can differ. So it really boils down to which specific set... The last set I purchased were very detailed I thought, but scaled out to be 6'2" easy!
Hope this helps
Brad
Hope this helps
Brad
ericadeane
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 02:42 AM UTC
A great advantage of resin figures is generally, there is very little clean up. Get a box of DML figures and you're spending many evenings on cleaning seams and filling gaps. With resin figs, you generally are gluing arms and heads and gear -- that's about it.
As to what others have said about Verlinden, I agree that they tend to be too big. But some have nice poses. Some are real dogs, IMHO.
I reviewed some very nice figs from one of the site sponsors, Tank Models of Russia. It gives you an idea of how nicely detailed they can get:
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=23&Type=FL
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=37&Type=FB
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=91&Type=FL
Just like models, you need to compare various companies' offerings.
As to what others have said about Verlinden, I agree that they tend to be too big. But some have nice poses. Some are real dogs, IMHO.
I reviewed some very nice figs from one of the site sponsors, Tank Models of Russia. It gives you an idea of how nicely detailed they can get:
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=23&Type=FL
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=37&Type=FB
http://www.amps-armor.net/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=91&Type=FL
Just like models, you need to compare various companies' offerings.
jakes357
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 04:34 AM UTC
hi,
the proportion seems to be off on some. the european boy looks more like a gorilla.
i think that is why they bought Warriors. i tend to stay with the hardware.
my $.02
jake
the proportion seems to be off on some. the european boy looks more like a gorilla.
i think that is why they bought Warriors. i tend to stay with the hardware.
my $.02
jake
jimbrae
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 04:44 AM UTC
Preston, as several people have mentioned, Verlinden can be pretty 'hit-or-miss' in both quality and size...
To be honest, the quality of the figures from 'newer' companies such as Alpine or, as Roy mentioned, TANK, are considerably higher than Verlinden's.
Depending on what you're after, it's also worth checking out companies such as Alexander Miniatures:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/news/3420
Jakrei Miniatures:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showmaker&makerid=535
there are a lot of Resin manufacturers out there whose products are, IMO, better than those of Verlinden...
To be honest, the quality of the figures from 'newer' companies such as Alpine or, as Roy mentioned, TANK, are considerably higher than Verlinden's.
Depending on what you're after, it's also worth checking out companies such as Alexander Miniatures:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/news/3420
Jakrei Miniatures:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showmaker&makerid=535
there are a lot of Resin manufacturers out there whose products are, IMO, better than those of Verlinden...
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 02:46 PM UTC
thanks guys, i like verlinden because of their selection so ill look into it, who besides them has good selection with detail?
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 05:42 PM UTC
Ok let's approach ths another way Preston. Do you have a type of figure in mind, or maybe you have nothing planned and it is more a case of perusing a manufacturer for something that takes your fancy? As mentioned, Alpine and Tank are two hgh quality producers. Tank are predominantly Russian and German WWII (and modern Russian) whereas Alpine has a cross section of Allied and Axis, both tankers and soldiers... Check out their websites. For sheer range, try Warriors maybe? Large range, with some excellent (and naff) figures.
Cheers
Brad
Cheers
Brad
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:17 PM UTC
i dont see alpine doing any tanks or anything on HO stuff
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 01:08 AM UTC
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i dont see alpine doing any tanks or anything on HO stuff
What precisely are you looking for? You mention HO. That's a railway guage. Are you looking for small scale stuff? Do VP do small scale? Sorry, but if not I fail to see your point...
Alpine Miniatures produce high quality 1/35 and 1/16 scale figures. You can see a whole bunch of reviews of their products here: The Complete List of Alpine Miniatures Reviews
As the folks above have mentioned, when dealing with any of the members or affiliates of The VLS Corporation, be it VP, Warriors or even Platoon (although Platoon tend to be better than Warriors) the casting quality tends to be hit and miss.
Platoon reviews can be seen here: The Complete List of Platoon Reviews
Warriors reviews can be seen here: The Complete List of Warriors Reviews
Custom Dioramics figure reviews can be seen here: The Complete List of Custom Dioramics Figure Reviews
Verlinden figure reviews can be seen here: The Complete List of Verlinden Figure Reviews
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 08:20 AM UTC
what i ment to say was that i saw alpine makng only HO but i have now found military, i do 1/35 scale to answer ur question. thanks a lot guys, i will look in to it more does any one make plastic detialed models?
thanks
thanks
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 06:45 PM UTC
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what i ment to say was that i saw alpine makng only HO but i have now found military, i do 1/35 scale to answer ur question. thanks a lot guys, i will look in to it more does any one make plastic detialed models?
thanks
I suppose one might easily confuse Alpine Division Scale Models and Alpine Miniatures if you're coming from a model train background. A heads up for future, in Armorama/KitMaker circles when we refer to Alpine we refer to the miniature figures company
You seem to be bouncing around a bit... not quite sure what you're looking for...
Please tell us which period and nationality of figures you're looking for. Give us as much info as possible and we can help you properly... else we're just beating around the bush...
Rudi
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:08 AM UTC
ok here is what i need. i want detailed figures at a affordable price, i dont want them to be resin but if they must and are very nice thats fine, but i saw that tank made nice ones but they arent released yet. i want figures in resting, tank figures, and combat poses. any websites or companies that fit this peramiters let me know
thanks
thanks
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 11:26 AM UTC
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ok here is what i need. i want detailed figures at a affordable price, i dont want them to be resin but if they must and are very nice thats fine, but i saw that tank made nice ones but they arent released yet. i want figures in resting, tank figures, and combat poses. any websites or companies that fit this peramiters let me know
thanks
Thank you. I gathered as much. Let me be more specific:
- What nationality? e.g. Germany
- What period? e.g. WW2
- Which theatre? e.g. the invasion of the Low Countries
- Which division? e.g. Waffen-SS Panzertruppen
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:19 PM UTC
i need ww2 1/35 german. anything with european fronts, division dont matter,
thanks
thanks
alanmac
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Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 04:24 PM UTC
If you don't want resin then it's injection moulded plastic and you can choose from the following companies. All have figures in the time frame you specified.
Dragon Models
Masterbox
Miniart
Tristar
You'll find their web site easy enough by doing a search. Most are stocked by model retailers, certainly on line ones.
Alan
Dragon Models
Masterbox
Miniart
Tristar
You'll find their web site easy enough by doing a search. Most are stocked by model retailers, certainly on line ones.
Alan
Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 02:31 PM UTC
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i need ww2 1/35 german. anything with european fronts, division dont matter,
thanks
If you're after WW2 German then you're spoilt for choice... in fact you'll have too much to choose from...
The companies Alan lists above are spot on... have a look at the reviews of the sets by clicking the Reviews hyperlink above, select the company have have a browse through the reviews...
HTH
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 - 10:14 PM UTC
which online site do u guys swear by to order from? i like hobbylinc and internethobbies
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 - 11:18 PM UTC
Preston, I'd avoid Verlinden 1/35 figures to be honest. At least as a first choice.
As others have already mentioned, some of them are very poor and over-sized, with poses that are quite awkward-looking as well in some cases.
Figures from the likes of Warriors, Jaguar, Legend, Alpine, Tahk (Tank) and Firestorm are probably your best bet for resin.
If you do decide to stick to plastic, then go for Dragon (Gen2 sets if possible) but you'd still be better off replacing the heads in these sets with resin heads from Hornet (a wide selection available to choose from).
Despite their market profile, Tamiya figures are definitely second-best, and some of their older sets are just horrible.
The larger-scale Verlinden 120 mm figures are pretty good on the whole (if you ever fancy taking a stab at something bigger), as are their 1/35 diorama and vehicle accessory sets.
As others have already mentioned, some of them are very poor and over-sized, with poses that are quite awkward-looking as well in some cases.
Figures from the likes of Warriors, Jaguar, Legend, Alpine, Tahk (Tank) and Firestorm are probably your best bet for resin.
If you do decide to stick to plastic, then go for Dragon (Gen2 sets if possible) but you'd still be better off replacing the heads in these sets with resin heads from Hornet (a wide selection available to choose from).
Despite their market profile, Tamiya figures are definitely second-best, and some of their older sets are just horrible.
The larger-scale Verlinden 120 mm figures are pretty good on the whole (if you ever fancy taking a stab at something bigger), as are their 1/35 diorama and vehicle accessory sets.
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 10:23 PM UTC
thanks for the PM kuno.. ill try ur method and hopefully get something going
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 10:26 AM UTC
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Despite their market profile, Tamiya figures are definitely second-best, and some of their older sets are just horrible.
I disagree. While first prize definitely still belongs to DML, Masterbox are hot on their tails in 2nd place, furthermore there are many other newcomers to the market which have displaced Tamiya from their throne several times over.
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 12:02 PM UTC
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Despite their market profile, Tamiya figures are definitely second-best
I'd say a better choice of words would be 'second-rate'...
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 01:35 PM UTC
Rudi said:
Guys - when I said that Tamiya are "second best", I meant it in a negative way as opposed to as a positive compliment.
As Bradley correctly surmises, I meant it in the sense of "second-rate" - I wasn't saying that Tamiya figures were second only to Dragon in terms of quality when it comes to plastic figures!!
You're absolutely right - Tamiya have long since been overhauled by a number of companies, and while some of their newer 1/35 armour releases like the Char 1bis and Hetzer have been excellent (if somewhat overpriced), their figures - particularly those of '70s vintage that are still doing the rounds and / or that Tamiya re-releases periodically as "limited editions" - are to be avoided like the plague.
Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
- Steve
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I disagree. While first prize definitely still belongs to DML, Masterbox are hot on their tails in 2nd place, furthermore there are many other newcomers to the market which have displaced Tamiya from their throne several times over.
Guys - when I said that Tamiya are "second best", I meant it in a negative way as opposed to as a positive compliment.
As Bradley correctly surmises, I meant it in the sense of "second-rate" - I wasn't saying that Tamiya figures were second only to Dragon in terms of quality when it comes to plastic figures!!
You're absolutely right - Tamiya have long since been overhauled by a number of companies, and while some of their newer 1/35 armour releases like the Char 1bis and Hetzer have been excellent (if somewhat overpriced), their figures - particularly those of '70s vintage that are still doing the rounds and / or that Tamiya re-releases periodically as "limited editions" - are to be avoided like the plague.
Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
- Steve
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 01:59 PM UTC
Hi Steve,
Thanks for clearing that up.
Rudi
Thanks for clearing that up.
Rudi
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