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Kurt25
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 08:39 AM UTC
How to create these effects during weathering?

Smoke,
Rusty surface/track,
Dry mud,

What material I should use? can you guys suggest some cheap brands/ ideas / procedure on how to do this ?
alanmac
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 10:48 AM UTC
Hi Kurt

It sounds like time to get using your keyboard and mouse a bit more, finding the search facilities that are available.

All of the web sites on modelling I visit have sections devoted to these types of topics, it's just a case of looking around the site pages for the links.

Here at Amorama you have Digital Diamonds, a collection of such articles along with others from members who have blogged builds and in turn had them made into features. So click on the features tab.

It's all here, you just got to look.

The same with sites like Track Link, planet Armor, Missing Lynx etc.

Here's a link to one from the last site I mentioned.

http://www.missing-lynx.com/rareworld.htm

Don't expect people to write out loads of stuff out for you.

It's not because they don't want to help, we do. It's just that it's already been done, it's out there it's just a case of you doing some small amount of work to find it.

Then if you are not sure or unclear on something ask a question and I'm sure you'll get plenty of replies.


Happy modelling.

Alan

Kurt25
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 12:32 PM UTC
Alan,
Forums are made for people to discuss specific topics and/or ask questions…
It doesn’t matter how smart or dumb the questions is, it is not like people are allowed only to ask or post original topics. If it was like that, you wouldn’t see any new post on this forum.
Thanks for the link tho, it was very useful….
alanmac
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 12:43 PM UTC
Kurt

I'm very aware of what forums are about and if you see my reply as telling you not to post then you are very much mistaken.

What I was doing was pointing out the type of question you are asking has been raised before, and answered, not only by individual posts but as a consequence of these by features relating to it.

To be honest, do you not think that your question or similar had not been asked before?

So you may find a possible lack of direct lengthy and informative responses to your specific question because the answers as I've already indicated exist and have been answered before.

That's not to say asking questions is discouraged, far from it, but merely pointing out the answers already exist and by using the web site to its full potential you will probably find the answers yourself, as indicated with my links to prove this point.

Alan


Kelley
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 02:02 PM UTC

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Alan,
Forums are made for people to discuss specific topics and/or ask questions…


You're right they are, but the question might be asked, are they here to answer the same questions over and over ad nauseum, oh but wait, it was your question this time . Search engines are made to search for specific topics and articles also. It probably took Alan less than 5 minutes to find the link he posted, and then several more to type his initial, very polite, response to you. In that time you could have found several articles or threads to answer your question, instead you use your time to reply with that smart-a$$ remark??? That kind of attitude won't get you many answers, and it is also why so many knowledgable people don't post on these sites anymore.

Mike
Kurt25
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 02:31 PM UTC

Quoted Text

You're right they are, but the question might be asked, are they here to answer the same questions over and over ad nauseum, oh but wait, it was your question this time . Search engines are made to search for specific topics and articles also. It probably took Alan less than 5 minutes to find the link he posted, and then several more to type his initial, very polite, response to you. In that time you could have found several articles or threads to answer your question, instead you use your time to reply with that smart-a$$ remark??? That kind of attitude won't get you many answers, and it is also why so many knowledgable people don't post on these sites anymore.

Mike


Mike,

I do understand your point, but what do you think would be better for a beginner like me searching 1000 posts to find what he is looking for, or simply having one of the more experienced people on the forum pointing him in the right direction?

I have used the search engine before, and read many of the posts, however I do find it very hard to understand many of the techniques that are being discussed, that is why I asked the question. For instance it took me 1 week to understand what “Future” is…

Since we are talking about questions that have been answered many times before, would you be a dear and let me know how to apply decals?

Thanks
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 05:36 PM UTC
Hey Kurt
Happy to help.
By smoke, do you mean an actual smoke effect? This is one of the Holy Grails of modelling. I have yet to see it done effectively enough. You could try teased cotton wool which has been tainted/dusted with pastel chalks.
For dried mud, I go for artists pastels (try your local artcraft store~ they should have a large range. These are the non oil-based versions, more like chalks). Get a few shades that are what you would deem to be suitable for mud of varying wetness. Scrape the tip into a powder, and with a wet brush stir to solid consistency, then apply where needed. Remember that these dry lighter than when applied. You can seal the effect with a clear dull cote, but this way it goes darker again...
For rust, you can try something like Burnt sienna oil paint. It bears a reasonable comparison to fresh rust. Can be applied with thinners to get it running into nooks and crannys etc.
Another way is to use the real deal. Grab a brillo pad or similar, and submerge it in water in a bottle for a couple of days. The metal will turn to rust quite quickly. This can be stirred up and applied like the pastel chalks with some thinners if required.
Of course there are always pigments from different manufacturers, but you will pay a premium for these. The are essentially a rawer form of the pastel chalks mentioned...
Good luck, and I hope you put some methods to work
Cheers
Brad
P.S. You may or may not find these around these sites. I didn't look myself.
Kurt25
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:11 AM UTC
Bradley,

thanks for your comments, i will defenitly try some of those methods once I am done painting.
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