ok ive got a dio goin berlin 1945 right near the reichs chancelry and i no tht black uiforms were pre war but would i get away with using a black uniform as hitlers body guards defending hitler from the russians?

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martyn

The black uniform was ceremonial so I doubt any SS men at the end were wearing it. However Anthony Beevor in hios Berlin book says the volksturm were wearing all sorts of bits and pieces including WW1 uniforms so you never know. But I don't think anyone wanted to get caught by the Russians wearing black SS uniform.

i no but hitler was in a state because he thought the war can still be won so like e could have ordered his gaurds to be in ceremonial dress and a lot of waffen ss vetetrans were in berlin soo they could have worn it and i have found nothing saying there isnt so

Highly unlikely.

The Soviets were doing aweful things to any captives they suspected to be WSS in retribution for the warcrimes done unto them by these divisions. It is unlikely that any troops would want to be caught by the Soviets in the black uniforms. Even Panzertruppe were discarding the black uniforms for which they were so proud lest they be confused for WSS and executed.

Also why would guards be wearing ceremonial dress? Guard duty, even for the Fuhrer, was not ceremony.

ok it doesnt matter it was more a what if than accurate dio soo

The recent film "Downfall" should give you all the information you need. While relying on movies for reference can be very risky, this particular film appears to have been very well-researched, and is far better than the dreadful old Hollywood version, "Hitler, the Last Ten Days" (though both films used some of the same source material).

Although the Waffen SS (and Guard units belonged to the Waffen SS) & most other branches of the SS had taken to wearing Field Grey by about 1942, there was one part that still wore black uniforms right to the end. This was of course the Allegemeine SS, which was a part-time, unpaid branch of the Nazi party. The black uniform was of course originally a mark of the elite, but by the wars end those still wearing it were marked as either too old to fight, or place men who had managed to evade military service. Since the Volksturm gathered any able bodied men still available, & uniforms were in short supply, it is entirely likely that an Allegemine SS man in the Volksturm might be wearing his black uniform or parts of it. Pictures show members wearing a plethora of Nazi party uniforms, including the brown SA uniform. Note that it wouldn't say "SS" on it anywhere, as the right collar patch bore the wearers regimental number for the ranks below Standartenfuhrer.