Ola guys
In a very short time I have to paint some concrete barriers. I haven't seen them yet but I think it are the ones you can link together and which are often seen along and on roads in the modern theaters of war. Now I have been searching online now for some time and I have some pictures but they are all the same. Does anybody know of pictures made in Iraq or Afghanistan of these things in use.
Looking forward what you might find. Thanks in advance
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LF pictures of Concrete barriers
Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 05:58 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 04:00 PM UTC
Hi Robert
Are these any help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Road_block.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roadblock_in_Palestine.jpg
Nige
Are these any help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Road_block.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roadblock_in_Palestine.jpg
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 07:00 PM UTC
These are from my neck of the woods.
Serpentine through checkoint:
Close up of Jersey barrier:
Culvert pipe used as barrier:
Temporarily removed for edit.
Jersey barrier channelization:
Six foot barriers:
There are of course many more, to include the ubiquitous Hesco of various sizes, and the 12 foot Alaska barrier, but it's 9 am and I haven't slept all night. Let me know if you need more.
Serpentine through checkoint:
Close up of Jersey barrier:
Culvert pipe used as barrier:
Temporarily removed for edit.
Jersey barrier channelization:
Six foot barriers:
There are of course many more, to include the ubiquitous Hesco of various sizes, and the 12 foot Alaska barrier, but it's 9 am and I haven't slept all night. Let me know if you need more.
Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 05:57 AM UTC
Ola Guys
Thanks for your replies.
Looking at the pictures both of you submitted I think the set I need to paint are of the Jersey type. I quite like the fact that some have like graffiti sprayed on it and some are multicolored. Gives me some good ideas of the possibilities
Both guys thanks a lot for your time. I might do a search on Jersey Barrier too.
But I'm also interested in seeing examples photographed by soldiers.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
Thanks for your replies.
Looking at the pictures both of you submitted I think the set I need to paint are of the Jersey type. I quite like the fact that some have like graffiti sprayed on it and some are multicolored. Gives me some good ideas of the possibilities
Both guys thanks a lot for your time. I might do a search on Jersey Barrier too.
But I'm also interested in seeing examples photographed by soldiers.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 07:01 AM UTC
Are you interested in garishly painted Iraqi black and red ones?
Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 09:35 AM UTC
Ola 18bravo
I'm looking for pictures of all sorts of painted barriers. Barriers with texts on them oddly painted barriers you name it. It is to get a feel of how they are used but also how they appeared on the battlefield
I'm looking for pictures of all sorts of painted barriers. Barriers with texts on them oddly painted barriers you name it. It is to get a feel of how they are used but also how they appeared on the battlefield
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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 07:29 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 11:19 PM UTC
FOBulous artwork! Here's the relatively mundane stuff everyone else looks at.
Access control point:
Different barrier heights:
Alternate paint scheme:
A little graffiti. Note primitive "artwork" in third one:
The battlefield can pretty much be wherever you're standing at any given time. Note penetrating shot through what looks like a nice mural:
Access control point:
Different barrier heights:
Alternate paint scheme:
A little graffiti. Note primitive "artwork" in third one:
The battlefield can pretty much be wherever you're standing at any given time. Note penetrating shot through what looks like a nice mural:
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 12:39 AM UTC
Just one more :
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 03:21 AM UTC
Ola Guys
Thanks for your really good efforts. They are absolutely appreciated.
@ Frenchy
That is amazing. I take it these barriers were to be found close to military camps and checkpoints and such? Some of those paintings are really nice.
@ 18Bravo
Some nice ones with the arabic texts on it. Those seem to be on either walls with plaster or dug in taller barriers. But I take it they were not limited on those walls and could also be found on the Jersey type barrier? Some good ideas are coming from this thread. Now I have to make up my mind how I'm going to paint the barriers for the man.
Thanks for posting the pictures they are really helpfull. Certainly because my area of focus is mainly ww2 and I have to paint these for somebody else. Call it a sort of commision job. That is why I have to do a little research here.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
Thanks for your really good efforts. They are absolutely appreciated.
@ Frenchy
That is amazing. I take it these barriers were to be found close to military camps and checkpoints and such? Some of those paintings are really nice.
@ 18Bravo
Some nice ones with the arabic texts on it. Those seem to be on either walls with plaster or dug in taller barriers. But I take it they were not limited on those walls and could also be found on the Jersey type barrier? Some good ideas are coming from this thread. Now I have to make up my mind how I'm going to paint the barriers for the man.
Thanks for posting the pictures they are really helpfull. Certainly because my area of focus is mainly ww2 and I have to paint these for somebody else. Call it a sort of commision job. That is why I have to do a little research here.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 06:26 AM UTC
If you could give a general idea of what it is (namely which situation) the barriers are used for, I could steer you in the right direction. The ones with murals aren't used out in the hinterlands. In fact,at least two of those were at a security base in the US. The most interesting ones I've seen are painted like an Iraqi flag. For the most part they'd be faded, but with brand new clean white spots where the green stars used to be, if you're modeling them in the last three months or so. I don't have a photo of this type because I can still see it in my mind. With a little luck, I may pass another at some point. Several have cell phones painted on them with X's through them. I'm trying to edit one so that I can repost it. Of course, the ones with skull and crossbones are good too, but someone has to teach the Iraqis how to do it right. The ones I've seen are pretty ridiculous in their simplicity.
I'll search through my pics when time permits. I may have a few more, but I've taken literally thousands of pics, so it may take time.
I'll search through my pics when time permits. I may have a few more, but I've taken literally thousands of pics, so it may take time.
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 08:56 AM UTC
Here's the "no cell phone" barrier. The "no cell phone" symbol is painted on the Hescos as well:
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 09:32 AM UTC
Here's another one used as a signpost near Tallil :
"BOHICA" means : Bend Over, Here It Comes Again. Pronounced “bo-HEE-ka.” = “we’re about to get screwed, as usual.” This term was in use in the Army in the 1960s. (from Iraq's Battlefield Slang )
Frenchy
"BOHICA" means : Bend Over, Here It Comes Again. Pronounced “bo-HEE-ka.” = “we’re about to get screwed, as usual.” This term was in use in the Army in the 1960s. (from Iraq's Battlefield Slang )
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 09:49 AM UTC
Imagine that... I really should watch what I wear next time.
Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 12:44 PM UTC
Ola Guys
@ 18Bravo
Well the general idea or direction is not very clear as of now. Basically it is like this. Since a while now I paint products for a new company in diorama items here in the Netherlands. I get samples which I then paint. Sometimes I make a little groundwork to go with it and I send them back. They are used for promotional stuff on events like as display in the stand and some are placed as the boxart (happened once so far from the two items I painted.)
Below you see the two items I finished so far
and
Fact is that I will do a similar thing with the barriers. Little bit of groundwork and show them more or less in a natural situation or setting. And since modern stuff is not really my corner of History I'm trying to get a feel for the subject. Currently I don't know which type of Barriers they will be. I expect them to be the Jersey type but tomorrow I know it for sure.
I like the "no cellphone" drawings... Basically what I'm looking for is the most natural and original setting for the barriers.
@ Frenchy
A barrier as a sign post that is also quite a fun idea. And you got to give the army credit for their originality in Abbreviations... And this makes for a cool cap too 18Bravo
@ 18Bravo
Well the general idea or direction is not very clear as of now. Basically it is like this. Since a while now I paint products for a new company in diorama items here in the Netherlands. I get samples which I then paint. Sometimes I make a little groundwork to go with it and I send them back. They are used for promotional stuff on events like as display in the stand and some are placed as the boxart (happened once so far from the two items I painted.)
Below you see the two items I finished so far
and
Fact is that I will do a similar thing with the barriers. Little bit of groundwork and show them more or less in a natural situation or setting. And since modern stuff is not really my corner of History I'm trying to get a feel for the subject. Currently I don't know which type of Barriers they will be. I expect them to be the Jersey type but tomorrow I know it for sure.
I like the "no cellphone" drawings... Basically what I'm looking for is the most natural and original setting for the barriers.
@ Frenchy
A barrier as a sign post that is also quite a fun idea. And you got to give the army credit for their originality in Abbreviations... And this makes for a cool cap too 18Bravo
Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:08 PM UTC
Ola Guys
The items were just delivered by the postman. And Now I can shed some light on what they are. Actually it is about 3 sets of different barricades. There was one bag with Jersey Barriers. One with big square concrete Blocks and the cilinder type of barrier as is visible in the picture with the cellphone painted on it. I did a quick look on all the items and they look pretty good actually. What I like about them is that non of the items in the sets are a copy of the other. They are all totally different. And the cilindrical barriers also come with a signpost.
So now it is up to think up a nice setting for the barriers.
The items were just delivered by the postman. And Now I can shed some light on what they are. Actually it is about 3 sets of different barricades. There was one bag with Jersey Barriers. One with big square concrete Blocks and the cilinder type of barrier as is visible in the picture with the cellphone painted on it. I did a quick look on all the items and they look pretty good actually. What I like about them is that non of the items in the sets are a copy of the other. They are all totally different. And the cilindrical barriers also come with a signpost.
So now it is up to think up a nice setting for the barriers.
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:24 PM UTC
If you want, in a few days I can send you some photos of the IA, IP checkpoints and the little guard shacks associated with them. There's almost always a PK pointed at traffic at these checkpoints. And some dude wearing a Nike watch cap and sandals with his uniform.
Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:00 AM UTC
Ola 18Bravo
I would be very interested in seeing those pictures. Not s a single clue what an IA, IP checkpoint is or a PK for that matter. But I'm looking for all sorts of pictures Showing the items as they were used. Thanks for your help so far and PM answered.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
I would be very interested in seeing those pictures. Not s a single clue what an IA, IP checkpoint is or a PK for that matter. But I'm looking for all sorts of pictures Showing the items as they were used. Thanks for your help so far and PM answered.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:51 AM UTC
I think I must have a pic somewhere of a road block with an interesting text. It was something like 'no car bombs please', in graffity.
Will try to look it up.
Martin
Will try to look it up.
Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:59 AM UTC
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Not s a single clue what an IA, IP checkpoint is or a PK for that matter.
IA = Iraqi Army
IP = Iraqi Police
PK : The PK is a 7.62mm general purpose machine gun designed in the Soviet Union and currently in production in Russia. Its NATO equivalents are the FN MAG, M240, MG3, and M60 machine guns.
HTH
Frenchy
Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 01:30 AM UTC
Ola Martin
Sounds very interesting. Would like to see that picture
@ Frenchy
Thanks for explaining those abbreviations. Being a non military guy that kind of stuff is often a bit confusing.
Sounds very interesting. Would like to see that picture
@ Frenchy
Thanks for explaining those abbreviations. Being a non military guy that kind of stuff is often a bit confusing.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 02:01 AM UTC
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@ Frenchy
Thanks for explaining those abbreviations. Being a non military guy that kind of stuff is often a bit confusing.
Being a non military guy too,I see what you mean Here's another one for you :
Frenchy
Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:39 AM UTC
Ola Frenchy
That is also a nice example. Would be quite a challenge to paint the stenciling that small. And of course the ever present abbreviations. Let me take a guess at the last one CFLCC
Coalition Forces Land Component Command ?
Thanks Wikipedia
That is also a nice example. Would be quite a challenge to paint the stenciling that small. And of course the ever present abbreviations. Let me take a guess at the last one CFLCC
Coalition Forces Land Component Command ?
Thanks Wikipedia
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Posted: Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 08:14 AM UTC
Well, I was gone a few days longer than expected, but here are a few more. The blue and white barriers would seem to indicate IP, but as you'll see there are IP, IA, and a mixture of both at the same checkpoint. I think these photos involve three separate checkpoints. The real intent was to show some different guard shacks, but there are also some interesting designs on the barriers as well. We drive so fast through these that it's hard to get more than one or two good shots at each one:
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Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 - 03:42 AM UTC
Wow! IPs and IA in the same place and they're not shooting at each other?!!