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One weeks hard work - Tamiya Stug IV
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 03:24 AM UTC
Nice work James. Those PE side skirts look like "fun"! The finished effect is brilliant though. As regards employment, I believe that 632 StugIVs were made, so there's plenty of scope for other units. I like the crew too, the only points I would make is that the Special Clothing might be a bit warm for Italy in the summer, though I'm sure it was worn in the winter, also the crew seem to be quite well decorated! This comes moulded on the figures I know, but a commander & loader in the same crew both with the Knights Cross is unlikely, unless you are modelling one of the "aces".
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 03:41 AM UTC
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They are a late war field mod. The skirts are fixed on to round bars, enabling them to swing back and for. There is a name for them, cant remember
Not the exact pic(this seems to be a stuh 42) but you get the point
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:13 PM UTC
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also the crew seem to be quite well decorated! This comes moulded on the figures I know, but a commander & loader in the same crew both with the Knights Cross is unlikely, unless you are modelling one of the "aces".
Hell no, the loader stole that Cross from someone else...hes an imposter!!!
just kiddin...my crude attempt at humer....
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:00 AM UTC
Hi guys, thanks for your interest.
Mahdi, thanks for the pic, as Geraint says, these were a late war design of schurzen where each panel centrally pivoted to aid ground clearance. Yes I have seen these on the later versions of Stug IV's (ie. revised loaders hatch and remote MG), though it wouldn't be applicable for my early/mid model.
Steve, I think you underestimate the battle skills of my Stug crew! The commander and loader have been together since they invaded France in a Stug IIIB and won their knights crosses during barbarossa where they destroyed over 70 enemey tanks....
Actually I thought the same thing, I think Tamiya's tank crew set are intended to be used as a one per tank set as commanders as they are all highly decorated. As speed is on the ecsence with this build, I used them as is, as I had enough trouble finding some alternative legs for the commander (note shims under hs belt on the build pics!) to worry about altering their awards.
Never mind, i'll beleive my little fantasy is true!
Justin, thanks for your take on this!
Thanks again guys, stay tuned for more.....
James
Mahdi, thanks for the pic, as Geraint says, these were a late war design of schurzen where each panel centrally pivoted to aid ground clearance. Yes I have seen these on the later versions of Stug IV's (ie. revised loaders hatch and remote MG), though it wouldn't be applicable for my early/mid model.
Steve, I think you underestimate the battle skills of my Stug crew! The commander and loader have been together since they invaded France in a Stug IIIB and won their knights crosses during barbarossa where they destroyed over 70 enemey tanks....
Actually I thought the same thing, I think Tamiya's tank crew set are intended to be used as a one per tank set as commanders as they are all highly decorated. As speed is on the ecsence with this build, I used them as is, as I had enough trouble finding some alternative legs for the commander (note shims under hs belt on the build pics!) to worry about altering their awards.
Never mind, i'll beleive my little fantasy is true!
Justin, thanks for your take on this!
Thanks again guys, stay tuned for more.....
James
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:09 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThey are a late war field mod. The skirts are fixed on to round bars, enabling them to swing back and for. There is a name for them, cant remember
Not the exact pic(this seems to be a stuh 42) but you get the point
I believe they are called "Schwingschürzen".
Great work so far too, James!
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:23 AM UTC
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Hi guys, thanks for your interest.
Mahdi, thanks for the pic, as Geraint says, these were a late war design of schurzen where each panel centrally pivoted to aid ground clearance. Yes I have seen these on the later versions of Stug IV's (ie. revised loaders hatch and remote MG), though it wouldn't be applicable for my early/mid model.
Steve, I think you underestimate the battle skills of my Stug crew! The commander and loader have been together since they invaded France in a Stug IIIB and won their knights crosses during barbarossa where they destroyed over 70 enemey tanks....
Actually I thought the same thing, I think Tamiya's tank crew set are intended to be used as a one per tank set as commanders as they are all highly decorated. As speed is on the ecsence with this build, I used them as is, as I had enough trouble finding some alternative legs for the commander (note shims under hs belt on the build pics!) to worry about altering their awards.
Never mind, i'll beleive my little fantasy is true!
Justin, thanks for your take on this!
Thanks again guys, stay tuned for more.....
James
Looking forward to seeing yours all ready to go, I'm eager to see your take on this kit. How did you like the build? Personally, I wasn't a huge fan. There were what, 4 sprues? Very little detail and the directions left some things to the imagination, specifically the OBE box on the rear. Also, did you find the antenna's? I dont know if my kit was missing the sprue or what, but they were definately MIA. I honestly was very let down on Tamiya kits after this one.
P.S. No PE parts! What the heck!?! not sure if i will buy a tamiya kit again...
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:27 AM UTC
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I believe they are called "Schwingschürzen".
Great work so far too, James!
There you go then!
Thanks Per-Erik
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:40 AM UTC
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Looking forward to seeing yours all ready to go, I'm eager to see your take on this kit. How did you like the build? Personally, I wasn't a huge fan. There were what, 4 sprues? Very little detail and the directions left some things to the imagination, specifically the OBE box on the rear. Also, did you find the antenna's? I dont know if my kit was missing the sprue or what, but they were definately MIA. I honestly was very let down on Tamiya kits after this one.
P.S. No PE parts! What the heck!?! not sure if i will buy a tamiya kit again...
Justin, I feel I must leap to Tamiya's defence here.
This kit is over 30 years old now and so don't expect the complexity of dragon or the like that you find today (although one of Tamiya's trade marks is ease of build). For this same reason the instructions will not be up to todays standards (although are still better than some), Don't even know if PE was invented back then let alone included in kits!
If you check page 4 of your instructions you'll see how they show you to make antenna by heating spruce rod and stretching it (which will look far better than if they moulded one).
The simplicity of this build was exactly why I bought the kit, its pretty cheap over here because of it's age, not sure what you paid where you are, but can understand your fustration if you are paying the same as more modern kits.
In my mind, for such an old kit it's still a great build.
James
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:45 AM UTC
Managed to get a fair bit done over the weekend.
Finished spraying the camo, went for thicker colour as it suited the disk pattern on the schurzen better.
Disc pattern done with a template made from styene sheet and a hole punch (thanks for the tip Geraint).
The figures are nearing completion here and the base coats of most things on the tank have been applied.
Next stop - weathering!
James
Finished spraying the camo, went for thicker colour as it suited the disk pattern on the schurzen better.
Disc pattern done with a template made from styene sheet and a hole punch (thanks for the tip Geraint).
The figures are nearing completion here and the base coats of most things on the tank have been applied.
Next stop - weathering!
James
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 07:24 AM UTC
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See ITS all in the name, they swing and they're called SchwingschurzenQuoted Text
I believe they are called "Schwingschürzen".
Great work so far too, James!
There you go then!
Thanks Per-Erik
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 07:32 AM UTC
F in eck you have been bizzy. looks GREAT James . Dont take this the wrong way, I would have liked the disk pattern alittle overlaped in the colours. LOVE the camo . Keep it up Your WELSH MATE. This is starting to get my modelling juices flowwing again, havn't be to the bench for a while not well GOT the lurgy cant shake it . Thats why Im on the net so much
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:54 AM UTC
Very nice camo James. I like the disc pattern. Does anyone can post a picture of a vehicle with this kind of camouflage pattern?
I just wonder how will you paint and weather those tracks. I know it's not impossible but... I've done it once in my life on my ferdinand. Will never do it again
great and FAST work!
keep it coming
spit
I just wonder how will you paint and weather those tracks. I know it's not impossible but... I've done it once in my life on my ferdinand. Will never do it again
great and FAST work!
keep it coming
spit
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 04:24 PM UTC
she's looking good! I certainly like the camo! Very nice figures too, the most decorated Stug crew of WWII!
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 08:58 PM UTC
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Very nice camo James. I like the disc pattern. Does anyone can post a picture of a vehicle with this kind of camouflage pattern?
I just wonder how will you paint and weather those tracks. I know it's not impossible but... I've done it once in my life on my ferdinand. Will never do it again
great and FAST work!
keep it coming
spit
Here's a late Ausf. G with the "disc" pattern camo... The photo is shot at the Krupp Grusonwerk in Magdeburg in late August/early September 1944.
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 09:24 PM UTC
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F in eck you have been bizzy. looks GREAT James . Dont take this the wrong way, I would have liked the disk pattern alittle overlaped in the colours. LOVE the camo . Keep it up Your WELSH MATE. This is starting to get my modelling juices flowwing again, havn't be to the bench for a while not well GOT the lurgy cant shake it . Thats why Im on the net so much
Thanks Geraint,
I agree about the overlapping disks, but I did my spraying in the other room to the PC where my references are and so didn't follow the pattern as closely as I should! I'm still pretty pleased how it came out, i've never used a template for sraying before. Unlucky that you're ill, glad to hear i'm inspiring you to get back behind the bench.
James
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 09:39 PM UTC
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Very nice camo James. I like the disc pattern. Does anyone can post a picture of a vehicle with this kind of camouflage pattern?
I just wonder how will you paint and weather those tracks. I know it's not impossible but... I've done it once in my life on my ferdinand. Will never do it again
great and FAST work!
keep it coming
spit
Thanks to Per-Erik for posting the pic, I have a couple more and some colour plates of this vehicle should anyone need them.
Good question spit. This is the first time I have assembled and glued tracks in place before a build (Theres a few firsts for me in this build as it happens-using the kit as an excuse to experiment!).
I have seen a way of painting the undercarridge that is very time-saving, (albeit a bit of a cheat) and as I wanted to save time I decided to give it a go. I'll tell you how I did it when i've actually done it (as it is liable to change) and i'll get your thoughts then if thats ok.
James
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 09:56 PM UTC
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she's looking good! I certainly like the camo! Very nice figures too, the most decorated Stug crew of WWII!
Thanks Justin!
Yes they are, but hopefully it'll add to the used and beaten look of my Stug!
James
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 08:44 AM UTC
Sorry havn,t been around, RUFF AS 10 BEARS.KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! Could always muliput a scarf around the loader a answer to the friendly critics
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 10:50 AM UTC
James what happened to the land speed record? only messing, lots to talk about octapus's. Had a go of a Tristar panzer 1 aust 1 crew member , was'nt happening s**t,never mind always the weekend coming. Determined to nail him, just a bit of a change a bit of field grey, flesh and black++++++++++ all the rest that comes with figs
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 10:04 PM UTC
Hi Geraint,
Thanks for the continued support.
The build is almost finished, will post some pics up now of where i'm at. Am adding some binoculars to the commander to help define him as being senior, hide some medals and help the figs look a little different to one another.
Good luck with your own project,
James
Thanks for the continued support.
The build is almost finished, will post some pics up now of where i'm at. Am adding some binoculars to the commander to help define him as being senior, hide some medals and help the figs look a little different to one another.
Good luck with your own project,
James
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 10:07 PM UTC
Ok i'm pretty much done. Some slight mods to the figures and stowage will finish this off for good.
I appologise for the terrible pics, I snapped them on my bench quickly this morning so i'd have something to post. The weather was far to wet and gloomy to shoot outdoors.
Hope you like, i'll get some nice one's done when I get it properly finished.
All comments, and feedback greatly appreciated guys.
James
I appologise for the terrible pics, I snapped them on my bench quickly this morning so i'd have something to post. The weather was far to wet and gloomy to shoot outdoors.
Hope you like, i'll get some nice one's done when I get it properly finished.
All comments, and feedback greatly appreciated guys.
James
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 03:27 PM UTC
Hi
Im quite a noob at late war modelling (im 7 years of rather intense modeling all my vehicue where early war) and I was wondering why the barrel was black, its quite interesting and adds visual interest to the model.
Im quite a noob at late war modelling (im 7 years of rather intense modeling all my vehicue where early war) and I was wondering why the barrel was black, its quite interesting and adds visual interest to the model.
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 07:25 PM UTC
I'm not a huge fan of WWII German armor, although I certainly like the low slung and menacing look of the StuGs. Your IV is a very well done example of the breed. I think the camo pattern looks great.
Nice work.
-YL
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 07:45 PM UTC
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Thanks Justin!
Yes they are, but hopefully it'll add to the used and beaten look of my Stug!
James
I think they will do just fine. I like the finished model, can't wait for some excellent pictures with the crew. IMHO yours is better tho!
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 09:35 PM UTC
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Hi
Im quite a noob at late war modelling (im 7 years of rather intense modeling all my vehicue where early war) and I was wondering why the barrel was black, its quite interesting and adds visual interest to the model.
Hi Mahdi,
Germany coated its barrels in a heat resistant primer which was a black or very dark grey in colour and perhaps had a slight satin sheen from the few colour pics i've seen.
There are several photos of tanks with darker barrels fitted, particularly the Tiger 1 and often the B+W pics were mis-interpreted as having primer red barrels which is incorrect.
I don't have any pics of bare barrels like this on a Stug IV, but as you said it add's some visual interest and isn't impossible, again it was a first for me to try this out with this build, as I was trying to experiment with a few new techniques and ideas.
If you want more info then search the site, this aspect has been discussed in much greater detail before!
James