hi all
here are some more pics hope you like them.( the roof isn't quite glued down yet)
http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9566
http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9567
http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9568
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Pak 35 Diorama 95% finished
andy007
Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 08:25 PM UTC
Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 09:37 PM UTC
Hi Andy! It is starting to come together now! The tree looks really good but seems to be a bit lonely. Some long grass around in places, like the wall and the the base of the barn, and maybe some small brush and stones would fill it up a bit. You seem to only paint the front of things. The gates have only colour on the front and the sides and top is still visibly unpainted. The same goes with the wall sections and barn sections. If the walls of the barn are plastered, it is a very dark colour, and offers no contrast with the gates. And as you said your self the roof clearly needs fixing down. For such a big base, it needs something to fill out the rest. maybe a fence running behind the tree from the barn, more foilage, some farm accessories maybe, use yellow brush hairs and tie in bundles to simulate straw. maybe an old cart can easily be scratched from some suitable wheels from some cheap toy and lollipop sticks/balsa wood. these are only suggestions .......... and hopefully you understand Im only try to add some ideas and points of view to help you along. You already have the basis of a good dio and with some fine tuning, it can be something you will be proud of! Good luck with the rest!
slodder
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2003 - 12:40 AM UTC
Nice progress. It is coming along. Read PB's comments they are well meant and are right on, he knows his stuff.
As far as finishing the shed and wall. I would suggest a few coats of dark wash. Mix some black/brown with water - very dilute. Then go in with a skinny brush (my preference, some do a whole bath) and hit the crevases and nooks and cranies. This will put shadows in there and provide detail and depth. The wall wouldn't hurt from a couple of coats, those old walls get a lot of abuse.
The shed corners appear to not go all the way to the roof (could be the picture). If they don't and its desired, I'd add a bit of raggidness to the separation to make the appearance of wear and tear. Or if its not desired a touch more plaster and paint.
I would offer that you add some detail as to how the doors are held on the shed. Is it's hinges vs. sliding rails. You can use some foil to represent the hinges, get some wine bottle foil or yogurt cup covers and cut some small hinges out and use white glue to pop'em on. The slide could be done with foil and streatched sprue.
I would also look to make some kind of 'drag' marks around the door. Not necessarily just from the pak but from general use.
You're doing great, don't take these comments as negative comments. We've all been where you are. Looking at the plan and figures you have the concepts and the techniques down, just some practice is all you need. Keep it up.
As far as finishing the shed and wall. I would suggest a few coats of dark wash. Mix some black/brown with water - very dilute. Then go in with a skinny brush (my preference, some do a whole bath) and hit the crevases and nooks and cranies. This will put shadows in there and provide detail and depth. The wall wouldn't hurt from a couple of coats, those old walls get a lot of abuse.
The shed corners appear to not go all the way to the roof (could be the picture). If they don't and its desired, I'd add a bit of raggidness to the separation to make the appearance of wear and tear. Or if its not desired a touch more plaster and paint.
I would offer that you add some detail as to how the doors are held on the shed. Is it's hinges vs. sliding rails. You can use some foil to represent the hinges, get some wine bottle foil or yogurt cup covers and cut some small hinges out and use white glue to pop'em on. The slide could be done with foil and streatched sprue.
I would also look to make some kind of 'drag' marks around the door. Not necessarily just from the pak but from general use.
You're doing great, don't take these comments as negative comments. We've all been where you are. Looking at the plan and figures you have the concepts and the techniques down, just some practice is all you need. Keep it up.
bison44
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2003 - 04:50 AM UTC
Its looking better and better each time i see it Andy. The tree is a real beauty. How did u make it? I have to agree with slodder on the shed doors. Sliding rails would be an easy detail to put on. We had many of these doors on the farm when i was a kid. Just take a peice of wood (popsicle stick) and make a dark rail just over the top of the door, and make sure it extends a little past the end of the building. That way you can safely open the door without it popping of the railing if you open it to far (this was a common problem at my farm). Then just add 2 boards going up from the door to the bottom of the rail, the rollers are inside the rail so you don't see them anyway. Or put on the hinges, either way it is an pretty easy detail to put on and it would make a big difference. Plus it should have either a some sort of handle on the outside of the doors (a simple board or maybe a hole cut in door with a lope of rope though it so you can pull or push the door closed)
I really like the way your dio is coming together andy, please remember that we are just giving you suggestions on what we might do, or things we might change. So far the way you have done it is very good. I do agree with PB that does look a little bare, but I am sure you will fill it up with more details as you go. So....might i suggest pails (for water and oats etc, pitch fork, piles of hay or straw or a barrel to catch rain water?? Excellent job Andy, keep the progress shots coming.
I really like the way your dio is coming together andy, please remember that we are just giving you suggestions on what we might do, or things we might change. So far the way you have done it is very good. I do agree with PB that does look a little bare, but I am sure you will fill it up with more details as you go. So....might i suggest pails (for water and oats etc, pitch fork, piles of hay or straw or a barrel to catch rain water?? Excellent job Andy, keep the progress shots coming.
Easy_Co
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2003 - 06:36 AM UTC
Nice work Andy cant say more than the other guys, I like that Tree Ive just finished my first one, did yuo use Martys feature with the wire armeture. all the best.
steve203
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2003 - 12:53 PM UTC
Keep up the good work Andy.