This is the MIG Products Pantherturm III. I would like to thank my good friend Dave (SS-74) for sending it to me from Hong Kong.
This post is more of a review then anything else as little construction was needed. The real test for this model is the painting and weathering.The kit includes Resin pieces consisting of the turret, the muzzle brake, mantlet, the periscopes and the hatch. There is also a nice plaster base included as well as some extra bricks and a turned aluminum barrel. The turret is heavily damaged from various calibre impacts and will be a delight to weather.
The only problems encountered were;
A) The muzzle brake was broken into 4 pieces. Refusing to use a spare, I decided to rebuild it and th result was respectable.
B) the fit of the mantlet to the turret was poor and required some significant sanding.
I decided to add some CMK Panther Ammunition and boxes for for clutter.
The hatch will be postitioned in the open position when the painting is complete.
I hope to finish this project much faster than my usual ones :-)
Andrew
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Pantherturm
Oberst
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Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:09 AM UTC
SniperSoldier
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Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:33 AM UTC
GREAT MODEL - CONGRATULATIONS
AFTER POST MORE PHOTOS
ROBERTO
AFTER POST MORE PHOTOS
ROBERTO
Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:36 AM UTC
Nice build up review Andrew! I saw this recently and was interested, but thought it was a little boring on its own! I liked your idea of adding some extra clutter to improve on this and also to idividualise it more! Will be interesting to see it painted up and see how things like the extra battle damage appears!
TankCarl
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Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:16 AM UTC
Will you be adding more rubble to the base?
What colors are you planning on using?
Will you weather with pastels?
Are you going to put numbers on the sides?
Are you going to have figures too?
What time of the war will it be set as?
Have you thought about detailing the interior since you will have the hatch open?
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What colors are you planning on using?
Will you weather with pastels?
Are you going to put numbers on the sides?
Are you going to have figures too?
What time of the war will it be set as?
Have you thought about detailing the interior since you will have the hatch open?
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Oberst
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Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:45 AM UTC
Hey Carl, all good questions.
Here are the answers respectively.
Yes, I may add some more fine grit to the base
I am using some greys, many various shades, for the stones and some light earth colours for the dust, debris.
I am going to use minimal pastels, I prefer blending with enamels.
There will be no numbers or markings as reference pictures I have seen show none.
I might have a lone Russian figure.
This Pantherturm will be in Berlin. April, 1945.
About the interior, there is none. Only a small amount below the hatch is hollow.
Thanks for the million questions, bastard
Andrew
Here are the answers respectively.
Yes, I may add some more fine grit to the base
I am using some greys, many various shades, for the stones and some light earth colours for the dust, debris.
I am going to use minimal pastels, I prefer blending with enamels.
There will be no numbers or markings as reference pictures I have seen show none.
I might have a lone Russian figure.
This Pantherturm will be in Berlin. April, 1945.
About the interior, there is none. Only a small amount below the hatch is hollow.
Thanks for the million questions, bastard
Andrew
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Posted: Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 07:55 PM UTC
Thanks for the pics Oberst... looks very nice indeed. I guess wheather this kit makes sense depends on the price... if it is more than a Dragon/Italeri Panther, one would probably rather canibalize such a kit and build a nice dio around it.
Hmmm... a two level dio would be cool.. showing the bunker underneath...
Hmmm... a two level dio would be cool.. showing the bunker underneath...
Grifter
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 11:41 AM UTC
very interesting model there, definitely not the usual project.
I look forward to seeing it again later!
I look forward to seeing it again later!
Oberst
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 12:08 PM UTC
Here are a couple an in-progress pictures of the MIG Pantherturm.
I have done most of the weathering on the base but there still needs to be a few washes and some other small details. There are about 8 different coats of paint and I have rally tried to vary the tone for an intricate look. The Turret has received a few coats of a mix of Tamiya Dark Yellow and white as well as a Vallejo Satin Varnish coat as a base for the extreme weathering that will follow. :-)
Tomorrow will be fun :-)
Also notice my Quicksilver plaid shirt in the lower portion of the below picture
Andrew
:-)
I have done most of the weathering on the base but there still needs to be a few washes and some other small details. There are about 8 different coats of paint and I have rally tried to vary the tone for an intricate look. The Turret has received a few coats of a mix of Tamiya Dark Yellow and white as well as a Vallejo Satin Varnish coat as a base for the extreme weathering that will follow. :-)
Tomorrow will be fun :-)
Also notice my Quicksilver plaid shirt in the lower portion of the below picture
Andrew
:-)
WeWillHold
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 12:59 PM UTC
Obe-ster
The first in progress pic is really impressive---a lot of work on the cobblestone area---looks really well done.
This kit build is going to blow your mind pal---i.e. no pe and it won't take you six months to complete---keep us posted.
ps: Interesting subject by the way.
Steve
The first in progress pic is really impressive---a lot of work on the cobblestone area---looks really well done.
This kit build is going to blow your mind pal---i.e. no pe and it won't take you six months to complete---keep us posted.
ps: Interesting subject by the way.
Steve
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 01:14 PM UTC
That looks pretty cool Oberst :-) A very interesting subject.
Might do that myself. Looking forward to seeing you paint and weather it
Might do that myself. Looking forward to seeing you paint and weather it
SS-74
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 01:45 PM UTC
Lord Obe,
be glad to get you this kit. This kit require a lot of detailed painting and weathering, and I think you for one can sure do this kit justice.
The in progress shots are great, the weathering of the base is dead on. Wish to have more pictures soon. Good work, bro.
be glad to get you this kit. This kit require a lot of detailed painting and weathering, and I think you for one can sure do this kit justice.
The in progress shots are great, the weathering of the base is dead on. Wish to have more pictures soon. Good work, bro.
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Posted: Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 06:58 PM UTC
Just reminded me seeing this kit in Model Expo. Courtesy of Tomi Mynttinen, the kit was displayed with figures and panzerfausts.
Looking good Oberst!
Toni
Looking good Oberst!
Toni
Sarge59
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 01:58 AM UTC
wow great job !
penpen
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 02:05 AM UTC
Nice job !
The street looks great !
One thing : I don't think that the railway should be rust colored on the top (where the wheels of the tram will pass). It should still be steel colored.
The street looks great !
One thing : I don't think that the railway should be rust colored on the top (where the wheels of the tram will pass). It should still be steel colored.
Oberst
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 11:18 AM UTC
Thanks for all of the comments.
Penpen, I have already done the polishing of the track.
Andrew
Penpen, I have already done the polishing of the track.
Andrew
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 05:14 PM UTC
Looking good Oberst. The technique on the cobblestones worked out very well. You used a basecoat of the dusty colour and then drybrushed greys over top, correct?
Nic
Nic
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 01:47 AM UTC
That's right Nic, this is the best way to do this, I think. I have done about 6 different tones of grey this way and it produces a convincing result. THe only problem with this is that you have to go and paint the sides of all of the bircks and the hard to reach ones. I did that last night, it must have taken an hour at least.
Andrew
Andrew