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Humbrol # close to Soviet green?
crucial_H
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Södermanland, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 03:09 AM UTC
As the title says, I'm wondering what Humbrol # is close to the green used by Soviet during WW2. I know there must have been alot of variations between different factories thou. Could # 117 be used?
Drader
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 03:17 AM UTC
H117 is Humbrol's stab at FS34102 which is one of the colours suggested as a match for Soviet 4BO so it is a possibility.

David
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Indiana, United States
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 03:38 AM UTC
Humbrol #114 is the best I have seen. Hard to find though.

John
crucial_H
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:23 AM UTC

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Humbrol #114 is the best I have seen. Hard to find though.

John



Yeah, couldn't even find it on Humbrols homepage!
04090
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 08:10 AM UTC
04090
Tamiya nato green xf67 is the best
cyril
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
Since I got into modelling, #116 and #117 have been the usual numbers listed as suitable. I have used both and think they´re OK.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 08:27 AM UTC
Depending on scale or on size of the model I'd use 116 or 117 as well. 117 is a bit lighter.

A
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Hame, Finland
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:00 PM UTC
I have used HU86 and I´m pretty much happy with it.
emroglan
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Istanbul, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 08:47 AM UTC
Hi,

This far, I've used both #116 and #117. They look good.
I've also tried #30, which didn't look that good, but acceptable.

I think for some reason #114 is out of production, it's not sold anywhere and it's not even listed in Humbrol's recent paint charts.
Kladivo
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Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 02:30 AM UTC
I agree with the 86 , used it in both of my last builds...
clay_cliff
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Lima, Peru
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 12:15 PM UTC
Albeit a bit dark, I like Humbrol 30. I use it for my WWII Russian subjects. Best regards.

José.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 08:52 PM UTC
I've been experimenting with a Humbrol colour to suit my Russian stuff for years. I've never been able to buy 114 so don't know what it was like, but like others here I'd pretty much settled on 86. I didn't like using it though as I tend to use it on everything and it makes my model cabinet pretty boring with a sea of Light Olive. I found 30 was too bright, while 105 and 117 were too similar to 86. I found 75, 116 and 91 were too dark. I preferred using 155 as a colour for tarpaulins or canvas.

But just the other day I noticed Humbrol 102 'Army Green'. I don't think its new rather I just hadn't noticed it before. I tried it and its a lighter green, a touch lighter than 86, and looks similar to the shade you see on Yugoslav armour (for which I've tried using 31 before). Thing is, I bought a PST PT-76 kit and in the painting guide they refer to Humbrol 102 as "Russian Army Green". 102 was around when 114 was so I don't think it is the same, but I found it interesting that a manufacturer was recommending it.

But based on that and my experience I would recommend 102.
drkwing
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Ankara, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:01 AM UTC
What can you say about the equivalent in Tamiya. I have used XF-67 Nato Green for my BTR, but also used black green in someplaces. However I'm not sure that those are close to the real tone. On the other hand, there are also sayings about the fact (or possibility) that there is no single tone for Russian green, for every factory uses different tones during production.
Pyromaniac
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England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:54 AM UTC
yeah XF-67 is pretty good.

sorry Emre i stole your pic
emroglan
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:15 AM UTC

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yeah XF-67 is pretty good.

sorry Emre i stole your pic



Thief!

But be careful.. I was showing on that pic the color difference between two bottles of XF-67. They were visibly different for some reason, although I used the same thinner, same proportions and the same equipment to paint them both.
Vecio
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Posted: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 09:01 PM UTC
Here's a comparison



Top (L to R): Tamiya XF-67 NATO Green, Model Master Russian Armour Green
Middle (L to R): Humbrol 86, 102 116, 117
Bottom: Humbrol 155
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