thanks Chas -well the ears were borderline, just a bit big, it could have gotten away with it, but well, sculpting ears just take a few minutes so I sculpted them bak again after having removed the previous ones.
So well, when the plaster has dried up, I trim it with a cutter..
... so nice!
time to break it up!
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 07:40 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:13 AM UTC
Jean-Bernard,
What do you use for greasing the part before plaster aplication?
Andrzej
What do you use for greasing the part before plaster aplication?
Andrzej
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 02:21 AM UTC
what a nice topic
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 08:42 PM UTC
hey Andrzej, I use some peanut oil, my wife thinks it's bad for the health
Actually it works well right now because it's no more than 3-5°C in the garden shed where I work, and even if I have a small heater, the oil is very thick so it's somehow easier to apply
Thank you Koen!
Back to the sea, I recompose more or less the plaster mould and make some sort of plasticine wall around the form
Som silicon is getting poured. that's what's left of the pot i had buy for the Koktebel diorama 2 years ago
When unmoulding you get this!
Actually it works well right now because it's no more than 3-5°C in the garden shed where I work, and even if I have a small heater, the oil is very thick so it's somehow easier to apply
Thank you Koen!
Back to the sea, I recompose more or less the plaster mould and make some sort of plasticine wall around the form
Som silicon is getting poured. that's what's left of the pot i had buy for the Koktebel diorama 2 years ago
When unmoulding you get this!
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 08:40 PM UTC
And now for the shark's head!
Thankfully i am not too bad in computer graphics, so helping myself on recouping plans I found + some wartime picture I found i was able to do this drawing and then to print it.
I glued on a glass sheet some large Tamiya mask...
Than you basically cut the teeth with an X-Acto blade
And then you glue them on the boat that was covered with primer first
Actually there's not 5 mn of work only in there, that was certainly the most boring part of the build there
Thankfully i am not too bad in computer graphics, so helping myself on recouping plans I found + some wartime picture I found i was able to do this drawing and then to print it.
I glued on a glass sheet some large Tamiya mask...
Than you basically cut the teeth with an X-Acto blade
And then you glue them on the boat that was covered with primer first
Actually there's not 5 mn of work only in there, that was certainly the most boring part of the build there
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 08:02 PM UTC
So, still modeling on a budget, with the most terrible airbrush on the market, the lowest Aztec available that I have for a good 15 years now, I should replace the noozle because it makes some weird shots at some moments.
The black stripes either side of the jawsare also painted with the airbrush. uh some paint got under the mask actually.
I will have to cover those with my brush
Direction fo the light time! The right side of the boat is darker and the "top" of the hull is lighter also..
The green parts are for tomorrow
The black stripes either side of the jawsare also painted with the airbrush. uh some paint got under the mask actually.
I will have to cover those with my brush
Direction fo the light time! The right side of the boat is darker and the "top" of the hull is lighter also..
The green parts are for tomorrow
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 10:13 PM UTC
Very good,
Wow... retro airbrush! I bought an airbrush about a year ago from...ebay... for $15. I think it's a pirate copy of a Badger but I did not know at the time. It is fantastic though, I've had no major problems with it.
I love the direction of light concept. It's a concept I have not yet learnt.
Chas
Wow... retro airbrush! I bought an airbrush about a year ago from...ebay... for $15. I think it's a pirate copy of a Badger but I did not know at the time. It is fantastic though, I've had no major problems with it.
I love the direction of light concept. It's a concept I have not yet learnt.
Chas
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 10:57 PM UTC
You are truly a talented modeller! Very interesting thread, looking forward to more updates!
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2009 - 07:59 PM UTC
thanks Chas, well I did not know there were pirate copies of such things as airbrushes, so I learn one here!
This is the kind of thing I need twice a year, but when I need it, I am appaled at the quality of mine, so investing? no..
Direction of light, yes, since I found out you could play with it quite a lot, it really changed my vision of the whole thing.
Csherwood thanks, updates every day! unless there are some train strikes
The green with a bit of black at the tip. i will try to make it like it burnt a bit in places.
Sort of Oyster black and rotten brown for the inside..,
Tomorrow i should post the whole weathering process!
This is the kind of thing I need twice a year, but when I need it, I am appaled at the quality of mine, so investing? no..
Direction of light, yes, since I found out you could play with it quite a lot, it really changed my vision of the whole thing.
Csherwood thanks, updates every day! unless there are some train strikes
The green with a bit of black at the tip. i will try to make it like it burnt a bit in places.
Sort of Oyster black and rotten brown for the inside..,
Tomorrow i should post the whole weathering process!
Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 02:12 AM UTC
Another gem JB.
Waiting for the next installment.
Cheers,
C.
Waiting for the next installment.
Cheers,
C.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 08:10 AM UTC
Nice progress JB,i like how things are forming.
Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 08:33 AM UTC
Excellent work JBA, you projects never cease to amaze me! Keep up the good work
Cheers
Loobes
Cheers
Loobes
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 10:14 PM UTC
Thank you Charles! Thank you Steve! Thank you Lewis!
Happy you all like my bit of work, it should be completed soon by now
So now that's weathering time.. No drybrush and washes with me, nah, that's wet on wet..
first water, and much thinned paint to outline most planks. It it goes a bit beyod on the white for instance, no problem we'll fix that later.
Then basically the technique is as follows: I use thinned paint or water or thinned Citadel Inks first to cover the surface and then I take a fully loade brush and just basically paint back the stuff while blending on the edges!
In the end you get this. i still have some salt marks to put at this stage; notice once more than one side is darker than the other, and that the whole is generally lighter on the top..
Happy you all like my bit of work, it should be completed soon by now
So now that's weathering time.. No drybrush and washes with me, nah, that's wet on wet..
first water, and much thinned paint to outline most planks. It it goes a bit beyod on the white for instance, no problem we'll fix that later.
Then basically the technique is as follows: I use thinned paint or water or thinned Citadel Inks first to cover the surface and then I take a fully loade brush and just basically paint back the stuff while blending on the edges!
In the end you get this. i still have some salt marks to put at this stage; notice once more than one side is darker than the other, and that the whole is generally lighter on the top..
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 10:45 PM UTC
Jean , wonderful work.
I love the " Soap Opera " style of presenting this s.b.s. build , l.o.l. Not revealing the end plot !!! Stay tuned for the next episode , I must admit I'm loving each installment and checking in each day to see " who shot Colonel Mustard in the library ".
It was cool to see how it has evolved to the bow section you have now and some stages left me wondering " what the heck is he doing now ? "
Glenn
I love the " Soap Opera " style of presenting this s.b.s. build , l.o.l. Not revealing the end plot !!! Stay tuned for the next episode , I must admit I'm loving each installment and checking in each day to see " who shot Colonel Mustard in the library ".
It was cool to see how it has evolved to the bow section you have now and some stages left me wondering " what the heck is he doing now ? "
Glenn
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 11:09 PM UTC
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...some stages left me wondering " what the heck is he doing now ? "
Glenn
I can relate to that! Especially when he broke up the plaster mould (I still think it's just an excuse for dropping it on the ground!! )
Excellent work on the hull.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 11:52 PM UTC
Paint job on the wreck is great
It gonna be a great dio as usual Jean
Cheers
Seb
It gonna be a great dio as usual Jean
Cheers
Seb
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 07:44 PM UTC
hey Glenn, I think it comes from reading once that the French have absolutely no idea of what the word "entertainment" means, that it's a pure anglo-saxon concept.
So then , as I suppose having no idea of what it really is, I try to do seriously an entertaining blog And then why would you supposed to be bored when reading something about model making. Honestly i am bored to death when I open a Military Modeling mag.
Well Dallas it ain't still!
No no Chas, the pic was taken so that it looked like it fell on the ground -actually i have been very carefully breaking it in 3 parts -indeed I wouldn't have been able to retrieve the hull if I didn't break it as the plaster water was overlapping it!
Actually, there's quite a few things here that were just designed and photographed for the effect it would do on the viewer more than for what it does
hey thanks Seb as usual
sadly my better half needed the camera that day so the first picture I show you is the resin after at least 3 coats.
The first one is completely transparent and has been blended on the sides of the waves while almost dry so that there could be a better transition when the other coats will be poured
You will notice the darkpatch at the place where the hull will be, hey that's because there is some shadow under there! just like there *should* be under your tanks
So okay, that's all very well, but how can I inlcude the bended sides of the boat inside the sea now?
Well, a gas mask and strong rubber gloves and here we go! I waited for the resin to be mostly dry and I ripped it apart. I placed the boat inside the "wound" and dressed the whole with some balsa wall so that the wound could heal. After this a good messy coat of resin to hide the thing and there you have the boat under the sea with some transparency at the places the small waves gently stroke the hull
btw, following some comments from Mr Honeycut (of The Sherman & Mud Fame), I have been reworking quite a bit the shoulders (thanks Brad )
It still needs a bit of trimming here and there..
So then , as I suppose having no idea of what it really is, I try to do seriously an entertaining blog And then why would you supposed to be bored when reading something about model making. Honestly i am bored to death when I open a Military Modeling mag.
Well Dallas it ain't still!
No no Chas, the pic was taken so that it looked like it fell on the ground -actually i have been very carefully breaking it in 3 parts -indeed I wouldn't have been able to retrieve the hull if I didn't break it as the plaster water was overlapping it!
Actually, there's quite a few things here that were just designed and photographed for the effect it would do on the viewer more than for what it does
hey thanks Seb as usual
sadly my better half needed the camera that day so the first picture I show you is the resin after at least 3 coats.
The first one is completely transparent and has been blended on the sides of the waves while almost dry so that there could be a better transition when the other coats will be poured
You will notice the darkpatch at the place where the hull will be, hey that's because there is some shadow under there! just like there *should* be under your tanks
So okay, that's all very well, but how can I inlcude the bended sides of the boat inside the sea now?
Well, a gas mask and strong rubber gloves and here we go! I waited for the resin to be mostly dry and I ripped it apart. I placed the boat inside the "wound" and dressed the whole with some balsa wall so that the wound could heal. After this a good messy coat of resin to hide the thing and there you have the boat under the sea with some transparency at the places the small waves gently stroke the hull
btw, following some comments from Mr Honeycut (of The Sherman & Mud Fame), I have been reworking quite a bit the shoulders (thanks Brad )
It still needs a bit of trimming here and there..
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:49 PM UTC
It's coming along great JBA. A brilliant idea, this Jawslike painted boat !
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 12:50 AM UTC
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Well, a gas mask and strong rubber gloves and here we go! I waited for the resin to be mostly dry and I ripped it apart. [IMG]
Mais quelle brute!!
But it works !! and looks good
Cheers
Claude
Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 01:44 AM UTC
JB,
The hull in the water is brilliant. Your paint job on the hull is fantastic.
Here's an idea:
When you are done with this, don't fix the child on permanently, instead wrap the child and the hull/base securely, box it up and mail it to my address! (don't forget to sign the bottom)
Joking of course...........
Truly coming along wonderfully,
Charles
The hull in the water is brilliant. Your paint job on the hull is fantastic.
Here's an idea:
When you are done with this, don't fix the child on permanently, instead wrap the child and the hull/base securely, box it up and mail it to my address! (don't forget to sign the bottom)
Joking of course...........
Truly coming along wonderfully,
Charles
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 02:31 AM UTC
Superb! It is amazing!
I love the water.
Martyn
I love the water.
Martyn
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 07:22 AM UTC
simply brilliant.. I love your re-structive methods.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 06:21 PM UTC
You must be getting fed-up with everyone telling you how fantastic this is. Well, that's because its fantastic, I have tried to follow these almost step by step guides for water effect, which is something for me like trying to catch smoke, I still find it so difficult to do a good water effect, however what's struck me hard, is the sheer work you've put in to that hull only to sink the whole thing into a water effect, very nice and very effective, can't wait to see the finished item.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 08:31 PM UTC
hey Guy thanks! but as you know it from your own work, a diorama is FIRST a good idea!
Claude, there are things in life with whom you have to be both very brutal and very caring in order to succeed, the *timing* is the thing
You know Charles I had first designed the dio so that indeed could remove easily the child for transport purposes. the problem is that he's standing on an angle, and I will have to put some filler above the hole on the hull in order for it to be looking realistic whne I will be finished.
I thought of making a mould of that child but don't have the competences sadly..
But wait, I will have a further 2 or 3 kids to sculpt for the Masséna and will *try* to get some decent moulds out of them!
thank you Martyn! Water is not *that* difficult, you jyst need a bit of time ahead!
Chris, really this is a matter of taking risks to achieve your goals! If i had failed, what would it be? bah, just 1 month worth of week- evenings, and i could still have salvaged the kid for something else. it was worthy to take the risk!
Alec thank you -must say I thought your first work was very impressive and I wait for the second- About the sheer work, that's all down to the same question, "are you in a hurry ?" I am not.
When i die I want the people to say "well he did very few dioramas, but those were good ones"
And then in order to die in the most possible amount of time, think about wearing your gasmask whenever using resin based stuff.
(on the left the Archangel diorama, on the right my wife's bicycle)
Acrylic gel carefully applied with a brush to create the waves! remember the ration paint/gel must not be above 5% or you screw the thing!!
Don't try and think too much about it, just try to *be* the water and you will see where to put the foam -alternatively google for sea pics
And here's the foam -first coated, not dried up
still looks a bit crap methinks..
Claude, there are things in life with whom you have to be both very brutal and very caring in order to succeed, the *timing* is the thing
You know Charles I had first designed the dio so that indeed could remove easily the child for transport purposes. the problem is that he's standing on an angle, and I will have to put some filler above the hole on the hull in order for it to be looking realistic whne I will be finished.
I thought of making a mould of that child but don't have the competences sadly..
But wait, I will have a further 2 or 3 kids to sculpt for the Masséna and will *try* to get some decent moulds out of them!
thank you Martyn! Water is not *that* difficult, you jyst need a bit of time ahead!
Chris, really this is a matter of taking risks to achieve your goals! If i had failed, what would it be? bah, just 1 month worth of week- evenings, and i could still have salvaged the kid for something else. it was worthy to take the risk!
Alec thank you -must say I thought your first work was very impressive and I wait for the second- About the sheer work, that's all down to the same question, "are you in a hurry ?" I am not.
When i die I want the people to say "well he did very few dioramas, but those were good ones"
And then in order to die in the most possible amount of time, think about wearing your gasmask whenever using resin based stuff.
(on the left the Archangel diorama, on the right my wife's bicycle)
Acrylic gel carefully applied with a brush to create the waves! remember the ration paint/gel must not be above 5% or you screw the thing!!
Don't try and think too much about it, just try to *be* the water and you will see where to put the foam -alternatively google for sea pics
And here's the foam -first coated, not dried up
still looks a bit crap methinks..
Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 09:07 PM UTC
that's not diorama building .....................................That's art
another beautiful piece again JB, it just looks stunning I don't really have words to express how good it really is, and the techniques used work everywhere and seem quite simple to do
cheers
Keith
another beautiful piece again JB, it just looks stunning I don't really have words to express how good it really is, and the techniques used work everywhere and seem quite simple to do
cheers
Keith