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Hobbyboss Merkava IV
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 12:10 PM UTC
After all the talks about the Academy Merkava IV, here comes the Hobbyboss version and other releases:




cant wait.

Eric
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:59 PM UTC
Thanks for the heads-up, Eric.

It'll be very interesting to see how the HB Merkava 4 shapes up alongside the new offering from Academy.

The Panzer I Ausf. C looks interesting as well.

- Steve
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 10:03 PM UTC
Thanks Eric !
Great stuff coming up... panzer IIc, the chinese APC's, Merkava, Leo's...
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 10:48 PM UTC
Very interesting. Thanks for the heads up Eric.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 10:40 AM UTC
the merk 4 looks great, ill bet my bottom dollar that it is a better kit then the academy merk.
cant wait!!!
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 10:55 AM UTC

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the merk 4 looks great, ill bet my bottom dollar that it is a better kit then the academy merk.
cant wait!!!


Well, it depends, will it be like one of their Leo 2's or like the AAVP-7A1 kit just recently released. If it's like the Leo 2's then I might pass, now if it's like the AAVP-7A1 it could be a real winner.

Mike
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 04:18 PM UTC
OK, I'm down for the Mk IC in a big way! Really liked the looks of it when OnTrackmodels did it and am still kicking myself for not getting one when they were in production.
Now I can hold off for the Merkava IV reviews! I still think the Mk IIID has cleaner lines though.....
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Posted: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:29 PM UTC

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Well, it depends, will it be like one of their Leo 2's or like the AAVP-7A1 kit just recently released. If it's like the Leo 2's then I might pass, now if it's like the AAVP-7A1 it could be a real winner.

Mike

their Leo 2s are the earliest products and their recent kits like AAV7 are far better, except Leo2 variants because they're mainly based on the early kits. But some coming kits like L2A6M or PSO(if possible) will improve with lots of new moulds
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Posted: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:42 PM UTC

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Well, it depends, will it be like one of their Leo 2's or like the AAVP-7A1 kit just recently released. If it's like the Leo 2's then I might pass, now if it's like the AAVP-7A1 it could be a real winner.

Mike

their Leo 2s are the earliest products and their recent kits like AAV7 are far better, except Leo2 variants because they're mainly based on the early kits. But some coming kits like L2A6M or PSO(if possible) will improve with lots of new moulds



Thats what people said about trumpeter kits when thay first came out but now everyone is praseing them for there modern armour so good luck to hobby boss.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:53 PM UTC

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Thats what people said about trumpeter kits when thay first came out but now everyone is praseing them for there modern armour so good luck to hobby boss.



Um, I remember someone saying that HB and Trumpeter were kind of the same company.

Anyone have any further evidence of this?

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Posted: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:17 PM UTC

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their Leo 2s are the earliest products and their recent kits like AAV7 are far better, except Leo2 variants because they're mainly based on the early kits. But some coming kits like L2A6M or PSO(if possible) will improve with lots of new moulds



Mmmmmmm......

2A6M ?

PSO ?

Zhang please tell more

Are these in the HB pipeline ?

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:11 AM UTC

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Mmmmmmm......

2A6M ?

PSO ?

Zhang please tell more

Are these in the HB pipeline ?

Paul

Master. new turret and up hull when done

i'm an ordinary modeller in china. this pic and some kind of others posted here are from our hobby forum.
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:15 AM UTC

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Thats what people said about trumpeter kits when thay first came out but now everyone is praseing them for there modern armour so good luck to hobby boss.



Um, I remember someone saying that HB and Trumpeter were kind of the same company.

Anyone have any further evidence of this?


believe it. we say the fact that, HB is just a "cover" of trumpeter. get is across, lt's just like, two IDs which belong to one ass in the forum
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:15 AM UTC
WOW...................................................................................
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 03:54 AM UTC

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Thats what people said about trumpeter kits when thay first came out but now everyone is praseing them for there modern armour so good luck to hobby boss.



Um, I remember someone saying that HB and Trumpeter were kind of the same company.

Anyone have any further evidence of this?


believe it. we say the fact that, HB is just a "cover" of trumpeter. get is across, lt's just like, two IDs which belong to one ass in the forum



Why bother? What advantage does duality give them?
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:02 AM UTC

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Mmmmmmm......

2A6M ?

PSO ?

Zhang please tell more

Are these in the HB pipeline ?

Paul

Master. new turret and up hull when done

i'm an ordinary modeller in china. this pic and some kind of others posted here are from our hobby forum.



This looks very interesting!


cheers from the sandbox
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:27 AM UTC

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Why bother? What advantage does duality give them?



It does give them the ability to release different subjects from each company... That could be useful.

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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC

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Why bother? What advantage does duality give them?



It does give them the ability to release different subjects from each company... That could be useful.




I don't see why they couldn't have multiple releases under one name. No one is going to delay a release if everything is ready for the market.
Rick
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:19 AM UTC

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Mmmmmmm......

2A6M ?

PSO ?

Zhang please tell more

Are these in the HB pipeline ?

Paul

Master. new turret and up hull when done

i'm an ordinary modeller in china. this pic and some kind of others posted here are from our hobby forum.



Thanks Zhang !

And the PSO ? Any pics ? That's the one I'm REALLY interested in

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:46 AM UTC
Actually, Hobby Boss and Trumpeter are 2 separate companies.

Yes both factories are located near each other, but they are 2 separate companies.

Where the commonality and confusion comes into, is that Trumpeter's parent company (who's name escapes me now) is a company that makes the molds and shoots the styrene into them for both Trumpeter and Hobby Boss.

Basically Hobby Boss contracts the company to cut the molds and shoot the styrene for their kits, it is then transported to their factory, where its gets boxed up, decals and instructions added to it. In the end Hobby Boss is its own company and not owned by Trumpeter or their parent company.

No different than Sears contracting out to GE or Whirlpool to have their appliances made for for them under the Kenmore name. The appliances say Kenmore, made by GE, but in no way does Sears own GE, or visa versa.
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 08:33 AM UTC
damn it's fantastic !

on your hobby forum, we can see more pics ? or other new realease ?
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:06 AM UTC

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Actually, Hobby Boss and Trumpeter are 2 separate companies.

Yes both factories are located near each other, but they are 2 separate companies.

Where the commonality and confusion comes into, is that Trumpeter's parent company (who's name escapes me now) is a company that makes the molds and shoots the styrene into them for both Trumpeter and Hobby Boss.

Basically Hobby Boss contracts the company to cut the molds and shoot the styrene for their kits, it is then transported to their factory, where its gets boxed up, decals and instructions added to it. In the end Hobby Boss is its own company and not owned by Trumpeter or their parent company.

No different than Sears contracting out to GE or Whirlpool to have their appliances made for for them under the Kenmore name. The appliances say Kenmore, made by GE, but in no way does Sears own GE, or visa versa.



OK,that works for me now. Two differant Merkava IV's shot by same moulder? HHmmm.
Rick
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 11:32 AM UTC

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Actually, Hobby Boss and Trumpeter are 2 separate companies.

Yes both factories are located near each other, but they are 2 separate companies.

Where the commonality and confusion comes into, is that Trumpeter's parent company (who's name escapes me now) is a company that makes the molds and shoots the styrene into them for both Trumpeter and Hobby Boss.
No different than Sears contracting out to GE or Whirlpool to have their appliances made for for them under the Kenmore name. The appliances say Kenmore, made by GE, but in no way does Sears own GE, or visa versa.


Trumpeter's parent firm is Wasan. They sometimes offer some of their own older motorized kits under that label or Minihobby, their other house brand.
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:30 PM UTC

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Thanks Zhang !

And the PSO ? Any pics ? That's the one I'm REALLY interested in

Paul

the R&D manager said they wanted to do a PSO but lack of photos was a problem. so i said it was possible, but not processing. i'm not a worker of trump so i know no more.
the L2a6m comes out this year.
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:43 PM UTC

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damn it's fantastic !

on your hobby forum, we can see more pics ? or other new realease ?

maybe~boxart, master, test shot, sprues, or some interesting words that tell coming releases indirectly
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