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Trumpeter ASLAV-25
c5flies
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:25 AM UTC
Jason Miller provides a very In-Depth Review of the ASLAV-25 Reconnaissance Vehicle Phase III, a new Trumpeter release in 1/35.
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bulivyf
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:43 AM UTC
Jason,
Thanks on very good and very correct review. I think that some upgrade sets and ASLAV is ready.
Conversion to Coyote is no easy. Coyote have many different parts and many very complicated stowage racks.
I think that conversion make of only very a statesmanlike modeler.
I prepare conversion set for Coyote with out Add-on armor.
Miloslav
Thanks on very good and very correct review. I think that some upgrade sets and ASLAV is ready.
Conversion to Coyote is no easy. Coyote have many different parts and many very complicated stowage racks.
I think that conversion make of only very a statesmanlike modeler.
I prepare conversion set for Coyote with out Add-on armor.
Miloslav
CMOT
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:50 AM UTC
A very thorough review, nice work.
Boggie
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 12:19 PM UTC
Very complete Jason, so some work ahead of us that want a cheep(er) ASLAV 25. Your review will be an excellent step by step guide for what to correct, a handy resource.
Thanks for this
Bill
Thanks for this
Bill
LeoCmdr
Joined: January 19, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 01:01 PM UTC
Very nice and complete review.....good to see more people with actual knowledge of a vehicle doing a kit review.
I think it is great to see more modern armour....but too bad more effort wasn't done on the front end in regards to research and master making to produce an accurate ASLAV.
Well....bring on the aftermarket correction set.
I think it is great to see more modern armour....but too bad more effort wasn't done on the front end in regards to research and master making to produce an accurate ASLAV.
Well....bring on the aftermarket correction set.
RomeoKilo
Joined: December 03, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 02:11 PM UTC
Hey mate great review.
Mines in the mail as we speak. Ill build it straight out of the box and use it to test paint for my ASLAV conversions.
One thing, the first, second and third rotations of the Security Detachment (SECDET) in Iraq were completed in initial Phase 2 ASLAV’s. Just a typo im sure, but i dont want people to think they can not make a Phase 2 in Iraq!
Also, do you think it would be easier to update it to a correct Phase 3 or backdate it to a correct Phase 2?
And whens the fix set coming out mate?... surely you are on to it!
Mines in the mail as we speak. Ill build it straight out of the box and use it to test paint for my ASLAV conversions.
One thing, the first, second and third rotations of the Security Detachment (SECDET) in Iraq were completed in initial Phase 2 ASLAV’s. Just a typo im sure, but i dont want people to think they can not make a Phase 2 in Iraq!
Also, do you think it would be easier to update it to a correct Phase 3 or backdate it to a correct Phase 2?
And whens the fix set coming out mate?... surely you are on to it!
ppawlak1
Joined: March 14, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 02:43 PM UTC
Thanks for the great review Jason !
Well done.
Looking forward to the update kit,
Cheers
Paul
Well done.
Looking forward to the update kit,
Cheers
Paul
jasmils
Joined: December 23, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 03:10 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments team.
So does this mean I'm now a published writer?
One thing I did forget to mention in the review was all fixtures (unless it has a wire of some kind running throu it,with the exeption of the HUD ) are all mounted on lugs that are welded to the hull.
Trumpeter has replicated this on some parts but not on others.
Ray, yes it was a brain f**t. The amendment has been sent in.
To convert the kit to P2 or P3 I think would be the same amount of work either way mate.
Update, what update. It had not even crossed my mind.
Cheers Jason Miller
So does this mean I'm now a published writer?
One thing I did forget to mention in the review was all fixtures (unless it has a wire of some kind running throu it,with the exeption of the HUD ) are all mounted on lugs that are welded to the hull.
Trumpeter has replicated this on some parts but not on others.
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Just a typo im sure, but i dont want people to think they can not make a Phase 2 in Iraq!
Also, do you think it would be easier to update it to a correct Phase 3 or backdate it to a correct Phase 2?
Ray, yes it was a brain f**t. The amendment has been sent in.
To convert the kit to P2 or P3 I think would be the same amount of work either way mate.
Update, what update. It had not even crossed my mind.
Cheers Jason Miller
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 06:40 PM UTC
Great review Jason, exactly what we old tracked buckets need to build our new fangled wheeled thingy.
One point of education is that the Antenna bases are not AMU's on the SCRS gear. The matching is done elsewhere. Just something that an old boffin noticed.
Look forward to the upgrade / retrograde sets
Al
One point of education is that the Antenna bases are not AMU's on the SCRS gear. The matching is done elsewhere. Just something that an old boffin noticed.
Look forward to the upgrade / retrograde sets
Al
seb43
Joined: August 30, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 05:17 AM UTC
Jason
What about the retail price ??
Since it is an big issue lately with trumpeter kits?
Cheers
Seb
What about the retail price ??
Since it is an big issue lately with trumpeter kits?
Cheers
Seb
jasmils
Joined: December 23, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 01:07 PM UTC
G'day Seb,
I paid $53 AUD for the kit. Now that is double the price I originally paid for the LAV-25 kit.
Cheers Jason
I paid $53 AUD for the kit. Now that is double the price I originally paid for the LAV-25 kit.
Cheers Jason
seb43
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 03:21 PM UTC
So Jason
Quality vs Prize what is your opinion ???
Cheers
Seb
Quality vs Prize what is your opinion ???
Cheers
Seb
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 04:55 PM UTC
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G'day Seb,
I paid $53 AUD for the kit. Now that is double the price I originally paid for the LAV-25 kit.
Cheers Jason
That's $25 AUD less than a current DML kit so pretty good value. Mine turned up today and I'm pretty satisfied. The Jerry cans are pretty anorexic IMHO and being US pattern ones fairly useless. I guess Tamiya or Italeri WW2 Brit ones it is.
Cheers
Al
jasmils
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 05:52 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quality vs Prize what is your opinion ???
Seb and Al, I think it is a bit high. Around $40-45 AUD and I would have been happer.
If you comapire the number of parts and detail to a Dragon kit of around the same size, there is quite a diference.
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I guess Tamiya or Italeri WW2 Brit ones it is.
Al, the best ones I have found are the Tasca German WW2 cans. Again price is an issue, but with the seam running around the can done in PE, it realy looks the part. Just fill in the German text and markings.
Cheers Jason
newfish
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 08:37 PM UTC
Great Review jason . It looks like it could be a good little kit shame about the soft detail and inaccuracies
. It looks like it could be a good little kit shame about the soft detail and inaccuracies 
Violetrock
Joined: March 09, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 11:00 PM UTC
Excellent review Jason!!!
If any review would be as good as yours!
This one is very informative and really shows the highlights and inaccuracies as it should be done in any review!
Please do some more reviews in the future!
Thomas
If any review would be as good as yours!
This one is very informative and really shows the highlights and inaccuracies as it should be done in any review!
Please do some more reviews in the future!
Thomas
Boggie
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 01:56 AM UTC
Jason
Have you some pics of the Tasca cans or a link to them. When you say Jerry cans are you referring to gas or water cans? I bought some Accurate Armour gas cans for the ASLAV 25 and they were beautiful.
Thanks
Bill
Have you some pics of the Tasca cans or a link to them. When you say Jerry cans are you referring to gas or water cans? I bought some Accurate Armour gas cans for the ASLAV 25 and they were beautiful.
Thanks
Bill
jasmils
Joined: December 23, 2003
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 11:45 AM UTC
G'day Bill,
Here you go.
Tasca WW2 German Jerry Can Set B
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tasca/bego35002.htm
Thanks Thomas. I would be interested in doing a few more.
Cheers Jason
Here you go.
Tasca WW2 German Jerry Can Set B
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tasca/bego35002.htm
Thanks Thomas. I would be interested in doing a few more.
Cheers Jason
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 06:32 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuality vs Prize what is your opinion ???
Seb and Al, I think it is a bit high. Around $40-45 AUD and I would have been happer.
If you comapire the number of parts and detail to a Dragon kit of around the same size, there is quite a diference.
Cheers Jason
I saw them in Frontline for $44 AUD today and they had many, many examples (50+). I still think with current exchange that 50-55 is acceptable as DML are now 75-85 for a similar sized kit (Sherman, Panther etc). They have maintained the $20-30 gap they have always had with DML in this country (unless it is a German WW2 subject then they were on par for pricing.
Cheers
Al
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 06:37 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Jason
Have you some pics of the Tasca cans or a link to them. When you say Jerry cans are you referring to gas or water cans? I bought some Accurate Armour gas cans for the ASLAV 25 and they were beautiful.
Thanks
Bill
We were discussing the Fuel cans as the Water ones are plastic and similar to the UK ones. The old Lee Desert Challenger was a great source of these as are the Accurate Armour ones.
The Italeri and Tamiya Jerry can (Possibly the GMC load set) sets offer British pattern cans (Fuel) which are identical except for the WD stamp as are the German WW2 from which they were copied. The Tasca (and some of the DML ones have the PE inner which was avail from one of the PE companies. A shim of thin Plasticard does the same thing. The Italeri Jerry set is one of the most useful sets going for the Armour modeller
Cheers
Al
Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 12:51 AM UTC
Jason and Al
Thanks for the link to the Tasca cans very nice set and cheaper than the Accurate Armour ones I bet.
Al, thanks for the tips for other sources as well. I remember trying to find Aussie water cans to replace the ones on my ASLAV PC, they were soft on detail.
Do any of you have a stand alone picture of an Aussie water can and are these made in Australia?
Thanks guys, very helpful.
Bill
Edit
found this just now on the Australian DOD site
Thanks for the link to the Tasca cans very nice set and cheaper than the Accurate Armour ones I bet.
Al, thanks for the tips for other sources as well. I remember trying to find Aussie water cans to replace the ones on my ASLAV PC, they were soft on detail.
Do any of you have a stand alone picture of an Aussie water can and are these made in Australia?
Thanks guys, very helpful.
Bill
Edit
found this just now on the Australian DOD site
jasmils
Joined: December 23, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 01:03 AM UTC
Bill, I currently have these ones in development.
Frontline you say Al?
Cheers Jason
Frontline you say Al?
Cheers Jason
Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 02:30 AM UTC
Good to hear Jason, thanks
Bill
Bill
bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 03:56 AM UTC
Man, I got a headache just trying to understand it all. Talk about a great, in-depth review. I like seeing all the technical detail, and this guy really understands the vehicle. Almost like having David Bryden or Herbert Ackermans reviewing Tiger models in one. 
nitrocomplex
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Posted: Friday, May 01, 2009 - 06:15 AM UTC
Can any of the parts from this aslav be used in an American lav-25
IE: wheels, tires, muffler and what ever other parts can be swapped onto a American lav-25?
IE: wheels, tires, muffler and what ever other parts can be swapped onto a American lav-25?
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