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SU-152 - WIP
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 06:43 PM UTC
Hi there,

Some pictures of my new AFV, this is a SU-152
the basis is the (very) old Tamiya KV-1B with Azimut conversion
plus a lot of surgery and scratch built












more to follow .... later
Griffon65
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 11:43 PM UTC
Mate, you got the drive sprockets on the wrong end!! They're supposed to go on opposite end to the gun.



I hope you haven't glued them on!
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 11:54 PM UTC

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Mate, you got the drive sprockets on the wrong end!! They're supposed to go on the opposite end to the gun.



That's true indeed !

But they are not glued, just there for the pictures that I took ( too ? ) late last night, more to show the roadwheels
Griffon65
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:03 AM UTC
Whew, crisis averted. lol. Hope the rest of the build goes to plan!
Kladivo
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Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:11 AM UTC
Why not buy the easter express su-152 instead of almost scratch building this one...it would be alot easier....or am i wrong?
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:19 AM UTC

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Why not buy the easter express su-152 instead of almost scratch building this one...it would be alot easier....or am i wrong?



3 good reasons why ... at least

1st is that I bought the Tamiya KV-1B together with the Azimut conversion for a very few $
2nd is that EA kit is good but still perfectible and requires anyhow some work
3rd is that I like doing surgery and scratch buidling
Kladivo
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:50 PM UTC
That explains it all ..after i have done my army of t-34s i will challenge myslefe to do one of these ..looking forward for your result on this one..
padawan_82
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:11 PM UTC
nice build so far, i've got zevezda's SU-152, which i plan to update a bit, i also managed to pick up a dragon SU - 152 from their Korean War series... it has markings for a russian vehicle in berlin 1945 so i'll go with that, but i'll starve off temptation till i get some more AM stuff for it , and of course try to finish some of my other builds i've got on the go lol. keep up the good work Yvan i'll be watching this one with great interest. Ant
Kladivo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 12:15 AM UTC

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nice build so far, i've got zevezda's SU-152, which i plan to update a bit, i also managed to pick up a dragon SU - 152 from their Korean War series... it has markings for a russian vehicle in berlin 1945 so i'll go with that, but i'll starve off temptation till i get some more AM stuff for it , and of course try to finish some of my other builds i've got on the go lol. keep up the good work Yvan i'll be watching this one with great interest. Ant




Whatch out, zvezda and dragon make the ISU-152 not the SU-152....two dofferent SPGs..
padawan_82
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 01:20 PM UTC
ah of course cheers Daniel, your right they're both ISU 152'S the SU 152 kit i've got is the eastern express kit sorry about that. Ant
Eaglewatch
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 04:25 PM UTC
Truly outstanding progress so far Yvan can't wait to see this behemoth all painted up are you just building the kit on it's own or are you planning on doing a dio with it ?
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 06:38 PM UTC

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Truly outstanding progress so far Yvan can't wait to see this behemoth all painted up are you just building the kit on it's own or are you planning on doing a dio with it ?



There'll be dio :
probably somewhere between Donetz and Dniepr, fall 1943
together with a german abandonned gun or vehicle

Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 05:59 AM UTC
Ok, here are the latest progresses

Masterclub tracks, Friul sprocket and Trumpeter idler wheel
much more better the Tamiya ones

Nothing glued yet






rv1963
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 06:10 AM UTC
Great work so far i really i like your weld beads very realistic.
chefchris
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 06:54 AM UTC
Yvan,
Great work! The weld beams are nice. Aren't those Masterclub tracks the Bee's knees?
Who makes the barrel?

Chris
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 07:21 AM UTC

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Yvan,
Great work! The weld beams are nice. Aren't those Masterclub tracks the Bee's knees?
Who makes the barrel?

Chris



Hi Chris,

The gun barrel is from Aber, really nicely detailed !

Sorry, don't get the point for the tracks :
what does mean Bee's knees ?
you know, I'm french and don't know all the subtil flavor of english language
Drader
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 07:34 AM UTC

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Sorry, don't get the point for the tracks :
what does mean Bee's knees ?
you know, I'm french and don't know all the subtil flavor of english language



Bee's knees = excellent

Congratulations on forcing the Azimut conversion onto the Tamiya base, I gave up on mine

David
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 07:38 AM UTC
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Bee's knees = excellent

Congratulations on forcing the Azimut conversion onto the Tamiya base, I gave up on mine

David



Tks for the explaination David

For sure those Masterclub tracks are really state of the art tracks with fine molded details
the only negative point is that you have to open up the 4 holes on each link with a 0.6 mm drill
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2009 - 09:44 AM UTC
Small update : working on the 2 parts rear hatch ( not finished yet ) and the roof




Griffon65
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2009 - 02:35 PM UTC
I unfortunately do not posess the patience to add all the weld seams and bolt heads. Hence why I build braille scale

Nice work Yvan. Keep it coming!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 03:09 AM UTC
Yvan,

I noticed (if I can make out the serial number properly in the photo) that you are using MasterClub MC135028W tracks listed for the JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / KV-85 / KV-1 instead of MC135029W "JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / ISU-152 (Late) Tracks." How did you determine this was not a "late" SU-152? What differentiates the two variants?
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 04:38 AM UTC

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Yvan,

I noticed (if I can make out the serial number properly in the photo) that you are using MasterClub MC135028W tracks listed for the JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / KV-85 / KV-1 instead of MC135029W "JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / ISU-152 (Late) Tracks." How did you determine this was not a "late" SU-152? What differentiates the two variants?



Bill,

Indeed I don't think it's actually possible to distinguish an early or late SU-152 if ever there would be a real difference because the SU-152 production was not running for that long time anyhow ( less than 1 year )
but my choice was guided by the later diorama : this will be somewhen during fall 1943 between Donetz and Dniepr
thus the MC135029W "JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / ISU-152 (Late) Tracks would have been ... too late for that project
Also another reason is that SU-152 used KV-1S hull then the MC135028W tracks listed for the JS-2 / JS-3 / ISU-122 / KV-85 / KV-1 might make more sens

But anyhow, everything is questionable because I don't have a real solid reference other than these thoughs

bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 05:30 AM UTC
Thanks, mon ami, I am going to keep my eyes out for an Eastern Express kit.

With these vehicles produced mid-war, would any of them have been part of the Battle of Berlin?
Navy95
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Val-drOise, France
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 06:16 AM UTC

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Thanks, mon ami, I am going to keep my eyes out for an Eastern Express kit.

With these vehicles produced mid-war, would any of them have been part of the Battle of Berlin?



I think so, even if I do no have a picture to show as evidence, but there were still SU-152 in units in 1945

There is a well known one captioned East Prussia 1945

bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 06:23 AM UTC
Merci mille fois!
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