Dioramas
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Mario Matijasic
"Loss of Innocence,Will It Ever Be The Same?"
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
First up will be to build the R/H facade in 1/16th scale.
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 02:42 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 02:59 AM UTC
More fun with vignettes
While I am working on the early stages of building the facade,I thought that I would put up a few pics of the crashed Albatros sitting in the backyard of the backyard flier diorama.(lots more on my photobucket,look for the Albatros album.)When the backyard is finished with all the landscaping in place,I will submit better pics without clothes lines , bird feeders,porch railings and sun canopies etc... Eventually I will be taking a lot of pics of my 1/18th scale old car collection using this backyard, before shipping it off to the museum.
__________________
"Once upon a time......." Storyboard dioramas by JohnReid.
My photobucket:
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/JohnReid/
While I am working on the early stages of building the facade,I thought that I would put up a few pics of the crashed Albatros sitting in the backyard of the backyard flier diorama.(lots more on my photobucket,look for the Albatros album.)When the backyard is finished with all the landscaping in place,I will submit better pics without clothes lines , bird feeders,porch railings and sun canopies etc... Eventually I will be taking a lot of pics of my 1/18th scale old car collection using this backyard, before shipping it off to the museum.
__________________
"Once upon a time......." Storyboard dioramas by JohnReid.
My photobucket:
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/JohnReid/
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Monday, July 13, 2009 - 06:35 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Monday, July 13, 2009 - 06:48 AM UTC
Facade #1 R/H yard area.
This is the height of a 2 story row house.It looks a little out of proportion right now but when the L/H yard and roof is added,things will look more balanced.
I kind of like the airplane placed at an angle in the yard for now but I won't make the final decision until much later in the build.
This is the height of a 2 story row house.It looks a little out of proportion right now but when the L/H yard and roof is added,things will look more balanced.
I kind of like the airplane placed at an angle in the yard for now but I won't make the final decision until much later in the build.
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Monday, July 13, 2009 - 12:17 PM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 06:58 AM UTC
Another pic
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:57 AM UTC
My windows may be too wide.
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 10:53 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 - 02:23 AM UTC
revised design
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 - 12:05 PM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 01:45 AM UTC
Another pic
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 05:51 AM UTC
When the measurements are done it is time to start cutting in with the Xacto knife.I started with what I call the dining room window which is the largest on the back facade.
Keeping your xacto (new blade,change often) 90 degs to the surface cut into the foam board.I do this freehand and make a couple of passes until it is cut all the way through.At this stage I don't try to be too exact as the foamboard is soft and easily damaged.Put another piece of foam board behind the cutout and trace the perimeter of the window.Cut this piece out as well and line it up and glue it to the back creating a double thickness.This will allow for a secure surface for our window frame pieces and add a more realistic look to the thickness of the wall.When dry start fitting your frame pieces,do not glue for now but make a tight fit.I cut mine slightly oversize and fit and sand,fit and sand until they fit snugly .Get out a small square and adjust the foamboard until the frames fit 90deg to each other.
It is time consuming to do but I thank my lucky stars that I am only doing a plain outdoor facade and not your typical Victorian moldings that you would find on the inside.
Keeping your xacto (new blade,change often) 90 degs to the surface cut into the foam board.I do this freehand and make a couple of passes until it is cut all the way through.At this stage I don't try to be too exact as the foamboard is soft and easily damaged.Put another piece of foam board behind the cutout and trace the perimeter of the window.Cut this piece out as well and line it up and glue it to the back creating a double thickness.This will allow for a secure surface for our window frame pieces and add a more realistic look to the thickness of the wall.When dry start fitting your frame pieces,do not glue for now but make a tight fit.I cut mine slightly oversize and fit and sand,fit and sand until they fit snugly .Get out a small square and adjust the foamboard until the frames fit 90deg to each other.
It is time consuming to do but I thank my lucky stars that I am only doing a plain outdoor facade and not your typical Victorian moldings that you would find on the inside.
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:36 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:40 AM UTC
Another pic
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 02:18 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 02:30 AM UTC
Another pic
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 12:07 PM UTC
My Victorian Row House.
After a lot of research the following measurements seem to be consistent with a typical North American Victorian row house.From the lower level floor to the upper level ceiling is about 21 feet 6 inches.
The top of the piece of cardboard at the bottom of the foam board represents the top of the exterior boardwalk.There are two rows of blocks to the top of the foundation,a 2" cap strip and 2"X10" joists to the lower level floor.From floor to window sill is 30"and from floor to ceiling is 10feet.I have allowed 18" between the ceiling to the top of the upper floor level for joists,plaster ceiling, sub-floor and floor.Then another 30" to the upper window sill and again 10 feet to the ceiling.(Victorian ceilings were high)
The upper rooms are 12 feet in width to their center lines ,the actual room size would be less due to studs,walls etc...The lower levels widths are 12 feet for the dining room and about 10 for the kitchen ,the rest is the 30" wide door and storage area,the overall width is about 30 feet.Above the door is the bathroom so that the run of the plumbing is consistent with the kitchen area.
The doors and windows are tall and narrow to allow for indoor/outdoor air circulation.
The external roof line has yet to be established but it is usually a little above the upper window.
Please advise me if you guys notice anything obviously wrong with the measurements.
After a lot of research the following measurements seem to be consistent with a typical North American Victorian row house.From the lower level floor to the upper level ceiling is about 21 feet 6 inches.
The top of the piece of cardboard at the bottom of the foam board represents the top of the exterior boardwalk.There are two rows of blocks to the top of the foundation,a 2" cap strip and 2"X10" joists to the lower level floor.From floor to window sill is 30"and from floor to ceiling is 10feet.I have allowed 18" between the ceiling to the top of the upper floor level for joists,plaster ceiling, sub-floor and floor.Then another 30" to the upper window sill and again 10 feet to the ceiling.(Victorian ceilings were high)
The upper rooms are 12 feet in width to their center lines ,the actual room size would be less due to studs,walls etc...The lower levels widths are 12 feet for the dining room and about 10 for the kitchen ,the rest is the 30" wide door and storage area,the overall width is about 30 feet.Above the door is the bathroom so that the run of the plumbing is consistent with the kitchen area.
The doors and windows are tall and narrow to allow for indoor/outdoor air circulation.
The external roof line has yet to be established but it is usually a little above the upper window.
Please advise me if you guys notice anything obviously wrong with the measurements.
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:30 PM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:33 PM UTC
This is a figure standing on the floor in an upstairs bedroom window.
__________________
__________________
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:42 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:55 AM UTC
This is boring stuff ,no doubt about it.It is one of those jobs that separates the men from the boys (or should I say wackos from the normals.)
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 01:39 AM UTC
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 11:54 AM UTC
Another pic
dolly15
Quebec, Canada
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Joined: May 20, 2004
KitMaker: 8,227 posts
Armorama: 1,975 posts
Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 12:28 AM UTC
The outside window sill is made from a piece of wood ,covered on three sides with glue and then sprinkled with very fine sand.The window frame I will paint an off-white and the bricks red or red-orange like in Victorian days.
When finished, I plan to treat the facade like a canvas and have some fun using acrylics,pastels,brush and airbrush to see what I can come up with. It will have to be subtle though not to compete with the main subject for attention.I want the viewer to first see the airplane,then the storyline and later pick out the details in the diorama.This is a large diorama and I have thought at times of cutting it back a bit, and probably would have if I hadn't built a 1/48 mock-up to keep me on track.I could really stop with just the one backyard and tell the basic story but I feel that by including the other backyards it will convey a sense of the builders priorities and enthusiasm for his airplane.His messy yard as opposed to his neighbors well kept grass and garden .I think that it will be springtime before all the flowers come out as I want to keep this aspect of the story subtle as well.
I also like the stepped down effect as if the row houses were built on the side of a hill as it helps to distract the eye from all the 90 deg angles.Also the piece will be placed at an angle to the base which will better allow me to put the airplane straight on as in the picture.
When finished, I plan to treat the facade like a canvas and have some fun using acrylics,pastels,brush and airbrush to see what I can come up with. It will have to be subtle though not to compete with the main subject for attention.I want the viewer to first see the airplane,then the storyline and later pick out the details in the diorama.This is a large diorama and I have thought at times of cutting it back a bit, and probably would have if I hadn't built a 1/48 mock-up to keep me on track.I could really stop with just the one backyard and tell the basic story but I feel that by including the other backyards it will convey a sense of the builders priorities and enthusiasm for his airplane.His messy yard as opposed to his neighbors well kept grass and garden .I think that it will be springtime before all the flowers come out as I want to keep this aspect of the story subtle as well.
I also like the stepped down effect as if the row houses were built on the side of a hill as it helps to distract the eye from all the 90 deg angles.Also the piece will be placed at an angle to the base which will better allow me to put the airplane straight on as in the picture.