Hello Guys,
This is one of my first attempt to paint a german 3 tone camo without an airbrush, because I dont own one.
I have not followed the camo pattern which comes with Zvezda manual, perhaps I should have.
Anyway, I am not satisfied at all of my paint job, I have applied some mig wash, but I cant get the colors to blend together. I think I am going to repaint it in german grey this way, it will be much easier to have a better result
But before, I would be glad to have your point of view on my paint job, please be honest, if you think that it is bad, say it,
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axismodeler
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:31 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 05:01 AM UTC
Why did you use gloss paint for camo ?? I have never seen such thing on real photos... there is some reference colors on the instruction ??
axismodeler
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 05:30 AM UTC
I have not used gloss paint but acrylic paints, I dont know why it shines like this, perhaps because of the source light
And this is the camo I wanted to paint, but I have not followed it exactly,
And this is the camo I wanted to paint, but I have not followed it exactly,
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 05:07 PM UTC
Hi,
I think the hue of green seems to be different. What color did you use? My favorite is Vallejo. If you have an airbrush, I think you can slightly spray dark yellow overall in order to blend all three colors, especially green. And you can spray matt varnish overall.
I think the hue of green seems to be different. What color did you use? My favorite is Vallejo. If you have an airbrush, I think you can slightly spray dark yellow overall in order to blend all three colors, especially green. And you can spray matt varnish overall.
thomokiwi
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:34 PM UTC
It looks like a paint issue to me. You may be using the paint to thick. You will need to build up the layers of paint slowly particularly with a brush, thin layers you can see through to start with. Colours are also important, a scrap piece with all the colours will help you decide if it looks right. As has already been said and I agree, Vallejo is best, a bit expensive to start with but lasts for ages and paints very well with a brush. Keep at it.
pzkw
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 08:41 PM UTC
Guillaume,
The green color, to say the least, is very bright.
I haven't used acrylics to paint much (except as housepaint); the good thing with acrylics, is they can be cleaned with soap and water, which also means, you can thin the paint with water, to make it flow better.
I make mention of the paint flowing better, as it leads to my next comment: the brown stripes look like you painted a small segment, dipped the brush back into the paint, then painted the next segment, etc. At the scale of the model, and the close-up of your photos, the changes in the border of the brown stripes is very apparent and detracts from the overall appearance of the vehicle.
To help with your painting technique, allow me to suggest using either a #5, #6 or #7 round red sable paintbrush. Red sables are great for use with water-based colors, because they hold a good amount of paint, and more importantly, you can shape the tip which allows for painting irregular shapes/borders. The best advice here is, practice on some paper with whatever brush you like, and the paints you use. This will get you familiar with how the brush acts, how the paint acts, and limber up your arm for when you do start the painting. Also, as you practice, when you move the paint brush in a long stroke, try rotating the brush in your fingers, and see if and how that changes the width of the painted line.
Here's the link to a 1/35th scale HEMMT I made a few years ago. It was painted entirely with a brush and enamel paints. Granted, the photo is not as close-up as yours, so any imperfections in the edges of the different colors don't show up:
Of course, in your current color scheme, perhaps you can put a coat of clear matte, or dullcoat, on it, to try to "knock down" the shine on the green color. If you do decide to go back to basic German grey, you might want to sand down (feather) the edges of the current colors, then prime it, then paint it with the grey.
I really like the mud on the windshield & driver's door window, it looks very realistic.
Keep at it, and good luck!
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The green color, to say the least, is very bright.
I haven't used acrylics to paint much (except as housepaint); the good thing with acrylics, is they can be cleaned with soap and water, which also means, you can thin the paint with water, to make it flow better.
I make mention of the paint flowing better, as it leads to my next comment: the brown stripes look like you painted a small segment, dipped the brush back into the paint, then painted the next segment, etc. At the scale of the model, and the close-up of your photos, the changes in the border of the brown stripes is very apparent and detracts from the overall appearance of the vehicle.
To help with your painting technique, allow me to suggest using either a #5, #6 or #7 round red sable paintbrush. Red sables are great for use with water-based colors, because they hold a good amount of paint, and more importantly, you can shape the tip which allows for painting irregular shapes/borders. The best advice here is, practice on some paper with whatever brush you like, and the paints you use. This will get you familiar with how the brush acts, how the paint acts, and limber up your arm for when you do start the painting. Also, as you practice, when you move the paint brush in a long stroke, try rotating the brush in your fingers, and see if and how that changes the width of the painted line.
Here's the link to a 1/35th scale HEMMT I made a few years ago. It was painted entirely with a brush and enamel paints. Granted, the photo is not as close-up as yours, so any imperfections in the edges of the different colors don't show up:
Of course, in your current color scheme, perhaps you can put a coat of clear matte, or dullcoat, on it, to try to "knock down" the shine on the green color. If you do decide to go back to basic German grey, you might want to sand down (feather) the edges of the current colors, then prime it, then paint it with the grey.
I really like the mud on the windshield & driver's door window, it looks very realistic.
Keep at it, and good luck!
Crapshoot: "A "deal" deal. Maybe he's a Republican."
On the workbench:
Rebuilding my Simba 8x8 Airport crash truck
Rebuilding the USS Constitution
Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 09:00 PM UTC
nice work on the model.
i think the green is too bright.
i think the green is too bright.
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 07:11 AM UTC
IMHO, the green paint looks too "green"...might use a darker shade or more of an olive color. Agree with the comments from Thomo and Tim, use thinner coats for brush painting, slowly building up the color base.
May get a better blending if you apply a couple more filters. If the finish isn't what you're after, repainting in German Grey should work, with a spray can. You might want to think about stripping the paint off first though, so as not to have an excessive amount of paint build-up which will hide some details.
Good luck, look forward to seeing some additional photos!
Cheers -
Tim
May get a better blending if you apply a couple more filters. If the finish isn't what you're after, repainting in German Grey should work, with a spray can. You might want to think about stripping the paint off first though, so as not to have an excessive amount of paint build-up which will hide some details.
Good luck, look forward to seeing some additional photos!
Cheers -
Tim
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 02:42 PM UTC
no offense, but it looks kinda toy like. heres my instructions.
use polly scale paints pnzer green, pnzr red brown and model master acrl dunkel gelb 1943.
after that, if ur going to weather it with pigement mixed with water washes, use an old windex bottle to spray it with future. I dont have an airbrush (im poor ) and thats what i do.
once weathering is done with pastels and pigemnt washes, spray it with dull cote.
and thats a goog brush painted scheme. just make shure you dont thinn the pant unless its 4 a wash.
Btw, its nice to see another brush painter on here. we are a rare breed....
oh, and dont paint with the winsheild in the paint is a pain in the ass to get rid of.
use polly scale paints pnzer green, pnzr red brown and model master acrl dunkel gelb 1943.
after that, if ur going to weather it with pigement mixed with water washes, use an old windex bottle to spray it with future. I dont have an airbrush (im poor ) and thats what i do.
once weathering is done with pastels and pigemnt washes, spray it with dull cote.
and thats a goog brush painted scheme. just make shure you dont thinn the pant unless its 4 a wash.
Btw, its nice to see another brush painter on here. we are a rare breed....
oh, and dont paint with the winsheild in the paint is a pain in the ass to get rid of.
thomokiwi
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 10:56 PM UTC
Heap's of good advice from those that have used different paints and processes. I recommend that you take what you want from all of them but the main thing to have Fun and to keep at it. It will come right in the end.