I thought as model makers you'd love to see this. Amazing in it's shear magnitude. Love to visit it.
World's biggest layout
Alan
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alanmac
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:47 PM UTC
milvehfan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:03 PM UTC
Alan,WOW ! Thanks for sharing this, Its incredibly AWESOME ! milvehfan
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:36 PM UTC
Nah, that no models, they are toys, the guys play with them! 
Cheers
Cheers
HK_AFV
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:48 PM UTC
AFV diorama will probably lose its focus if it gets too big. I believe we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction.
Paul
Paul
dioman13
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:12 AM UTC
fantastic amount of energy and planing to pull it off. total amazed.
alanmac
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:12 AM UTC
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AFV diorama will probably lose its focus if it gets too big. I believe we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction.
Paul
Your entitled to your opinion and I think Janne was tongue in cheek anyway but as regards moving items I think you'll find Tamiya and others do a very nice business out of their remote control AFV's and if you look at this site as an example you'll see plenty of interest in "moving toys"http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/ so I'd say your assumption as to what "we" enjoy and in our genes is way off.
Remote controlled models of AFV 's hold no personal interest for me I might add, but then again I live so close to Bovington I can go and see the real thing moving around anytime.
I'm not a model railway builder either but I can appreciate the work and dedication that went into getting this together and sure it's a tourist attraction, number one without doubt. To expect something of this size and complexity to be funded by the gate money produced by only model railway enthusiasts wanting to see would be a pretty disastrous business decision. It's entertainment, some fun.
Alan
HK_AFV
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:24 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAFV diorama will probably lose its focus if it gets too big. I believe we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction.
Paul
Your entitled to your opinion and I think Janne was tongue in cheek anyway but as regards moving items I think you'll find Tamiya and others do a very nice business out of their remote control AFV's and if you look at this site as an example you'll see plenty of interest in "moving toys"http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/ so I'd say your assumption as to what "we" enjoy is way off.
Remote controlled models of AFV 's hold no personal interest for me I might add, but then again I live so close to Bovington I can go and see the real thing moving around anytime.
I'm not a model railway builder either but I can appreciate the work and dedication that went into getting this together and sure it's a tourist attraction, number one without doubt. To expect something of this size and complexity to be funded by the gate money produced by only model railway enthusiasts wanting to see would be a pretty disastrous business decision. It's entertainment, some fun.
Alan
Fine, "we" does not need to mean "you". IS THIS BULLYING on opposing opinions. You better put this under Model Train if you can find it. You are way way off.
alanmac
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:35 AM UTC
Bullying. Where are you coming from. 
Because I disagreed with you, please ........
I posted as a modeller who knows that modellers have interests beyond the specifics they like to model.
Alan
Because I disagreed with you, please ........I posted as a modeller who knows that modellers have interests beyond the specifics they like to model.
Alan
HK_AFV
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:37 AM UTC
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Bullying. Where are you coming from.
I posted as a modeller who knows that modellers have interests beyond the specifics they like to model.
Alan
I posted as a modeller who knows that there are modellers who have NO interests in moving toys.
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:41 AM UTC
These train people do really dislike when you ask them if they "play" with their trains. But there are many similaritys to both hobbies.
I wouldnt mind a R/C Tiger I in 1/6 to terrorize the neighbours with, if they werent that pricey. But if I win the lottery I will surely buy one.
And should I ever venture into model trains the scene would be wild west with mines, mountains, ghost towns and mining rails as well.
Cheers
I wouldnt mind a R/C Tiger I in 1/6 to terrorize the neighbours with, if they werent that pricey. But if I win the lottery I will surely buy one.
And should I ever venture into model trains the scene would be wild west with mines, mountains, ghost towns and mining rails as well.
Cheers
alanmac
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:47 AM UTC
Paul
No, you posted as someone making statements about what you believed " we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains."
I merely commented and disagreed with that broad and unproven assumption. I wasn't rude in any way but you accused me of "bullying".
If you've got a problem with people disagreeing with what you say and saying so in a perfectly appropriate manner I suggest forums are not something you should get involved in.
As I said I posted as a modeller who knows that modellers have interests beyond the specifics they like to model and knowing the connections may find this interesting. Maybe even if they were in the local area looking for something to do.
Alan
No, you posted as someone making statements about what you believed " we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains."
I merely commented and disagreed with that broad and unproven assumption. I wasn't rude in any way but you accused me of "bullying".
If you've got a problem with people disagreeing with what you say and saying so in a perfectly appropriate manner I suggest forums are not something you should get involved in.
As I said I posted as a modeller who knows that modellers have interests beyond the specifics they like to model and knowing the connections may find this interesting. Maybe even if they were in the local area looking for something to do.
Alan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:59 AM UTC
Quoted Text
AFV diorama will probably lose its focus if it gets too big. I believe we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction.
Paul, Alan posted this link because as modelers we always (or should) enjoy seeing something different. To dismiss Model Railrods as 'Moving Toys' demonstrates a) A lack of manners and b) a total lack of understanding at the incredible work which goes into it.
Secondly, i'm at the point of deleting ALL your posts in this thread as whatever your ACTUAL point of view is, your responses were exteremely bad-mannered and demonstrated little more than an ill-founded prejudice... Alan took the effort to post the link, if you don't like it, the best thing to say, is precisely nothing..
HK_AFV
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:01 AM UTC
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Paul
No, you posted as someone making statements about what you believed " we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains."
I merely commented and disagreed with that broad and unproven assumption. I wasn't rude in any way but you accused me of "bullying".
If you've got a problem with people disagreeing with what you say and saying so in a perfectly appropriate manner I suggest forums are not something you should get involved in.
Alan
Alan
No, you posted as someone making statements about what you thought "I thought as model makers you'd love to see this."
I merely commented and disagreed with what you thought which is an unproven assumption.
If you've got a problem with people disagreeing with what you think you should be the one staying away
As I said "We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction."
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:05 AM UTC
Paul, either start Deleting or Editing your posts in this thread or it will done for you. You were given VERY fair warning...
HK_AFV
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAFV diorama will probably lose its focus if it gets too big. I believe we AFV modellers have something in our genes that hate moving toys. We enjoy static models more than moving trains. Can only see it as a tourist attraction.
Paul, Alan posted this link because as modelers we always (or should) enjoy seeing something different. To dismiss Model Railrods as 'Moving Toys' demonstrates a) A lack of manners and b) a total lack of understanding at the incredible work which goes into it.
Secondly, i'm at the point of deleting ALL your posts in this thread as whatever your ACTUAL point of view is, your responses were exteremely bad-mannered and demonstrated little more than an ill-founded prejudice... Alan took the effort to post the link, if you don't like it, the best thing to say, is precisely nothing..
I have no intention to equate model trains as moving toys. I only stressed the difference between moving and static. If anyone is offended, I would take it back. BTW, is this forum censorship?
HK_AFV
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:12 AM UTC
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Paul, either start Deleting or Editing your posts in this thread or it will done for you. You were given VERY fair warning...
That is amazing, I thought China is run by communist, but guess what, this is happening in Armorama as well. Paul, Good bye.
Afroman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:23 AM UTC
wow, this went off topic rather fast.
anyway it looks very well made you never know they might start making real minature people to live in it.
anyway it looks very well made you never know they might start making real minature people to live in it.
Belt_Fed
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:49 AM UTC
This is simply amazing. Just...wow.
I think we as modelers have an obsession with anything detailed and brought to a smaller size.
I think we as modelers have an obsession with anything detailed and brought to a smaller size.
youngc
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:11 AM UTC
I wonder if the argument occurring above would take place if you were speaking face to face. Seems so childish to me.
I very much enjoyed the video. Would love to see that layout in real life.
I very much enjoyed the video. Would love to see that layout in real life.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:19 AM UTC
This isn't a toy this is a Diorama built be a dedicated team who put allot of effort, time and money into this. Model Railways arn't toys there actually combined look how many people model railway diorama's there are a few around right now!. Are they TOYS? NO!
Loose the attitude it won't get you anywhere and seriosuly grow up
Loose the attitude it won't get you anywhere and seriosuly grow up
tankman08
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:34 AM UTC
WOW! i think it looks fantastic.
I can fully appreciate the amount of time and planning that it must have taken to create something on this kind of scale.
I'd like to have the time/money/space/ patience/experience and understanding partner to do something like this in 1/35 scale with a military theme.. a section of the Battle of Kursk maybe??!
I can fully appreciate the amount of time and planning that it must have taken to create something on this kind of scale.
I'd like to have the time/money/space/ patience/experience and understanding partner to do something like this in 1/35 scale with a military theme.. a section of the Battle of Kursk maybe??!
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:44 AM UTC
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Are they TOYS? NO!
Loose the attitude it won't get you anywhere and seriosuly grow up
thats kind of the same thing,
newfish
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 03:19 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAre they TOYS? NO!
Loose the attitude it won't get you anywhere and seriosuly grow up
thats kind of the same thing,
mopnglo
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 03:29 AM UTC
Alan, thanks for this link! I read about Miniatur Wunderland not too long ago. It's absolutely incredible!
Michael
Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 03:29 AM UTC
can we get back on topic please, all this childish tit-for-tat is really boring and getting no-where
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