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Trumpeter 1/35 SA-6 Kub
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:45 AM UTC
Here ia the difference in the missles the green one is the cromwell wider and a bit shorte

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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 08:12 PM UTC

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I have been looking for Cromwell's Web site for at least three years now; and I was never able to find one. I don't think they ever had a Web site: there should have been at least one outdated link or small mention of their URL; and I can't see either of them anywhere in Google.



The original webpage was here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~cromwell
But I can´t remember their full range.
They had some interesting kits in different scales and some conv. sets.
Sorry, I can not find more about them.

greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 08:53 PM UTC
This rocket 3M9M2, 5star resin model inclued this version.
http://www.jadar.com.pl/5star/35004/imagepages/SA-6_06.html
http://www.jadar.com.pl/5star/35004/imagepages/SA-6_18.html
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pa24tPio8rfsjlObFNqXJXO6MKvxW-PvVLU3E6VOq_pgXFCH_vOwXWqtzGQ3zjuFOyyY0UvzkRiR-lfJL7O4SQQ/3m9_2.JPG
The trumpeter kit 3M9M3, the corrected missile (my handwork):
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p_8rCoqRog5Rthq1vOQspZ0FdR5hhnuyOm4kXKIw9mzDaDUAtHA3ejtHx7BnpWWI80SMFq5Tzi-auG5Allpah9g/PB282705.JPG
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p3dJ2_bdkXqCTLMkI_DFuszoJVRad88NHkyXYJr5YsnoqSDAVaKRdzfZGrWggWKp87iy_YuSJd1ApimzKEmiU7g/PICT0117.JPG
3M9M2 rocket nose white, 3M9M3 grey
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pELhulDTjewTwozYe7AXn5S5qZc2w1vXhZhM4dC1LRnMdKZNEj7OQLph6Svxw1KmgQVoyTk86okTpZNB9XBKKeg/sa6_02.JPG
Modell missile, 3M9M3:
http://gallery.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/323646
Bluestab
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2009 - 06:57 AM UTC
A little late to the party but...I built the Trumpeter kit when I came back to modeling a couple of years ago. I'm basically a straight from the box modeler right due to some physical limitations with my right hand. Anyway, I found the kit a fun build and it looks really nice on the shelf. If memory serves, my copy had some fit issues with the rear upper hull and the vinyl hoses for the missiles were really too stiff and gave me fits. The launcher elevating mechanism brace can be a bit squirrelly it might need to be reinforced a bit.

As far as the Cromwell conversion...there's an old issue of Finescale Modeler (March 2000) that has an article on a build using this conversion kit and the Dragon ZSU-23 kit.
Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 02:28 PM UTC
Good day!
Please'll show where you can find the drawings of the rocket?

Sorry for my English.
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juge75
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Posted: Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 05:16 PM UTC
which Missile?
3M9M2 or M3?

http://cid-ee536f896a8bd757.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/2K12%20Kub%20%5E5SA-6%20%5E6/3M9M
juge75
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Posted: Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 05:20 PM UTC
M3

M2
Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:58 AM UTC
Thanks!
This scheme has already seen.
On this basis did the drawing.
The difference between M-2 from M-3 - the color of the rocket and the construction of the ailerons, the size of the shell are the same.
You do not have maps showing the location of technological hatches and technical inscriptions?
juge75
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:18 AM UTC
Exist.
Top Secret, on duty the missile in Hungary.
Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 02:53 PM UTC
Understand.
In Ukraine and Russia, they no longer stand in arms.
Find information on them is not easy ...
juge75
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:11 PM UTC
Dmitriy, send e-mail for me!
Contact and speak the draws.
[email protected]
Alexer
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Posted: Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
I have placed here photos of the missile 3М9М3 which I have made in the summer in a museum artillery (Sankt-Piterburg)

http://photofile.com.ua/users/alexer777/115631609

I have put on a rocket a pack of cigarettes (88mm x 55mm x 22mm) for fixing of the sizes and have made some pictures.
juge75
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Posted: Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 04:36 AM UTC
3M9M2 Original draws.
Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 11:46 PM UTC
Juhász, Oleg thank you very much!
This information will help me in building a model!
In the near future will begin to build a model.
Missiles want made out of plexiglass.

Bought a set of production "MasterClub" (MC235006):

Significant difference.
juge75
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 12:28 AM UTC
This road wheels are the best for Kub or Shilka!
Track Friulmodel ATL-103.
The hull modified, the roadwheel vibrating arms bad local.
Different 4mm.

Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
Yes with the geometry of the shell big problem ...
I will be redoing.
Truck I will replace on "MasterClub" (MC135044CL)

juge75
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 01:43 AM UTC
Send to you e-mail, this trumpeter 2P25 correction photos and draws tipps.
Jacques
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 07:30 AM UTC

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Send to you e-mail, this trumpeter 2P25 correction photos and draws tipps.



Can you send them to me as well, or better yet, post them here for all to see the necessary adjustments?
juge75
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 08:10 AM UTC
Allright, this site upload the photos and corrections.
Okay?

Gorizont
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 08:16 AM UTC
Yes, please post them!

greetings...
Soeren
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juge75
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:10 PM UTC
Step one: cut the first left and right Z-arm connecting ptalforms (yellow signed).
Step two: cut the uder hull (position the red line the photos) in front, 3 stiffener after, cut the hull back 6mm and shuffle.

The hull 2 piece fixate this position, and the slot put in 1mm stirol and putty.
Smooth single.
Glue the left and right Z-arm connecting platforms place (6mm back differetly the original!).



If everything okay, the road wheels location so the original.








Dmitriy_Dregval
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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:58 AM UTC
Thank Juhász!
Already can not wait to start building a model!
Jacques
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 03:08 AM UTC
Thank you for putting your notes up here, much appreciated.