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"What If" Berlin '46 camo references...?
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 07:08 PM UTC
Heya, Folks,

I'm working on a Dust Gunther, which is a German WWII + two legged walking machine with a body loosely based on the sdfkfz 222...

I'm interested in painting it in a Berlin '46 variation of late war German camo... Are there any good "What If" references for possible late war and beyond camo patterns? I know that you can pretty much make it up, but I'm looking for inspiration and honestly do not have much of an imagination when it comes to painting.

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks, folks!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:55 PM UTC
Well references don't exist for something that never existed!

To be accurate, the last official camo scheme that would have been implemented was the octopus scheme, so you could go for this. However, if you wan't something a little more 'out-there' then I have seen a nice E-10 with a type of 'Berlin Brigade' block pattern camouflage that may be what you are after. I couldn't find it, but here is a similar one:

http://www.track-link.net/gallery/6767

James
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 02:17 AM UTC
Maybe something like this?

PLEASE NOTE:This is not my work)
http://i32.tinypic.com/5l9cp2.jpg

or

http://bf2142.free-gfx.com/bf2142_vehicles/bf2142_EU_vehicles/eu_battlewalker_l5_riesig/battlewalker_l5riesig_02.png
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:29 AM UTC

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Well references don't exist for something that never existed!



HA! No, I get that, of course, James, but figured given how into it some of the Luft 46 aircraft modelers are that there might also be a similar website dedicated to WWII Plus conjectural armor models, ya know...?

Again, just looking for ideas and inspiration on where the German camo schemes might have gone if the war had continued on past '45.

And thanks for the links, guys --- this sort of stuff is very helpful! Keep 'em coming if there are any other similarly cool examples of people's work to look at!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:29 AM UTC
Ooops, double post --- feel free to delete, Moderators! Sorry about that!

Johnny B.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:18 AM UTC
(not my work)
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2001/09/images/caisander_ar555_06.jpg


Rare disc type camouflage referred to as TII
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/stephen_munton/panther%20tank/ambush1E.jpg

The German "Buntfarbenmuster 31" from 1931-1945 and 1951-1962 (BGS)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Buntfarbenmuster_31_(Splittertarn).jpg

German Bundesgrenzschutz-Sumpftarnmuster (BGS marsh pattern) from 1952-1976
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/BGS_Sumpftarn.jpg

hope this helps.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:56 AM UTC
I was researching the same topic last night after painting the base coat on a Panther F intended as a Moscow street fighter. I found this site particularly inspirational: http://camo.henrikc.dk/index.asp

-Doug
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:12 PM UTC
You could get real crazy with one like Brian Balkwill's excellent E-100 scheme..........




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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:38 PM UTC
Here's something the 1946 German folks don't consider (tongue in cheek). Here's a suggestion: All German soldiers are radioactive zombies as the USA has dropped a half dozen A Bombs on German cities. Predominant camo scheme: burnt paint with outlines of figures in stalheims in an "oh no" pose.

LOL
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:46 PM UTC
Johnny B., sorry don't have an suggestions for you, but I am a big fan of Dust kits, will you have this one at the LAMS meeting?

Matt
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:17 PM UTC
Thanks again, guys!

Charles, Brian's paint job on that E-100 is amazing --- I'd be in rehab long before getting close to finishing (and not coming anywhere near those spectacular results!)!

HA! You ain't kiddin', Roy --- unless the quartermaster started issuing lead zeltbans... :O

And last but not least, heya Matt! Yes indeed, I'll have the Gunther built up (and modified) at the next LAMS meeting in September. Dunno about having it painted, probably not...

If I can find the time (and figure out how), I'll try to take and post some in progress photos of this kit (which I picked up at www.twistory.com for only $19.99 + s&h --- glad it was a good price as I'm @#%ing broke but have been looking for this kit for a while.. HLJ has it at $50.00 plus shipping! Ouch! No affiliation to either of the sites listed BTW).

The kit itself is okay --- good points and bad points, kind of like Italeri on a not so good day... But with that being said, I have had a fun go squeezing in a little time here and there to work on the kit! And this was the first (and only) injection-molded vehicle in the line, so they were still working out the bugs. All the other walker kits are resin...I have one of them (Luther) and I can say that that kit is very nicely engineered and packaged!!

See you in a few weeks, Matt! I hope that life is good, amigo.

And thanks again, folks!! Great to see all of these cool schemes!!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.
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