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Heatseeker64
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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 07:03 PM UTC
Many of my projects are of subjects that require a bit of modification, or in some cases outright re-building, of the base model.

I find I plug away, and once all the pesky mods are done, the project just races ahead.

Occasionally for my morale, and sanity, I have a crack at a kit that just "flies together" so I can get in to the mindset of actually finishing something.

The Germans had some interesting armour, but I tend to shy away from it because I think it is represented way out of proportion to its significance and numbers (I'm sure there are more different Tiger 1s on the market than what there were real vehicles!).

However, when Trumpeter released their Sturer Emil, it was a kit I just had to have. It looked to be superbly engineered, the price was right and I had just finished Antony Beevor's excellent book about Stalingrad. You'll never see me building a "paper Panzer", but for me the two Sturer Emils summed up the insanity of the Nazi invasion of Russia.

The kit had sat on my shelf in the shed, along with a few hundred others, for about the past three years, and the other night I was taking a break from a magazine editing job with a glass of wine in hand when I started to tinker with it.

The kit was indeed well engineered, and in no time I had the lower hull tub, superstructure and gun together.

I did a bit of research, and there is a plethora of updates for this kit, but I just wanted to get in to a "no brainer build", and, besides, the interior looked nicely busy as it came out of the box, and some of the photo etch seemed ridiculous (I didn't feel like removing the water bottle straps and replacing them with brass strip).

I though the gun was well done, although the multi piece breech block took a bit of cleaning up:





I agonised about how I would gonfigure the components, and decided to cut off the mounting shaft for the gun, and replace it with a bit of plastic tube slid in to gun through a hole I drilled in the cruciform base in the superstructure, which I chose to fit before painting. This way the gun could be fully assembled, slid in, and held in place with the tube.



As I said, I though the interior was nicely busy out of the box, and I find that many "super" interior details tend to be barely visible once the vehicle is assembled:





I had a spray can ot Tamiya German grey, which has made the basic build fly ahead without even getting an air brush dirty! After masking, I gave the interior a coat of grey and then a squirt of dullcote once the paint dried:





You can see here how I modified the mounting system for the gun:



As much as it looked like a cavernous hole, the inside of the superstructure starts to get crowded when the gun is mounted:





Anyway, I'll let the dullcote harden and give the interior a wash in a week or two before picking out some details and dry brushing. I have seen on other builds that people think that because the slats on the floor are probably wood, they should be brown, which makes about as much sense as painting the exterior of the vehicle silver because it is made of steel. The wooden slats were painted grey, like the rest of the vehicle interior:



There will be only minimal upgrades to the base vehicle. I've read the kit gun is way underscale, and since the almost ridiculously big gun is such a feature, I will look around for a replacement barrel. The rubber band tracks are nice enough, but I don't think I'll be able to get the distinctive sag from them, so I will take a look at the Hobby Boss replacements.

Apparently one of these vehicles was destroyed and the other was captured at the fall of Stalingrad. I can only imagine that it sat forlorn in the rear for weeks and months due to lack of fuel and especiialy its unique type of ammunition. No doubt the vehicle would have been stripped of every item of useful equipment, and since mine has all its stores in place, I reckon I'll depict it early in its career in the warmer weather on the wide open steppes during the advance to Stalingrad.

I found a picture which suggests that although these vehicles left the factory in a standard Panzer Grey, at least one of them got a mottling of what appears to be some type of green:



So far I have enjoyed the build and the Trumpeter Sturer Emil is a classic 1/35th kit in my book. Even if you're not in to German armour - like me - look at grabbing this kit, because it is great value.

I'll report in again when I detail the interior and mount the gun and superstructure.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 07:35 AM UTC
Hi Mick

Great choice. I love this kit, but promised myself I won't buy it till I can find the time to make it.

The only one left in the world, pictures here. More on the net if you do a Google for images.

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/downloads/Bilder/DiverseBilder/privatebilder/Panzer/DSC01864.JPG

Alan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:34 AM UTC
Glad to see another one of thse built. Loved puttin the kit together. Finished a build log recently http://armorama.com/forums/140379&page=1" TARGET="_blank">here

Looking forward to see how it ends up,
Rich
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Posted: Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 12:28 AM UTC
I've never been a great fan of German armour, let alone "paper panzers" or weird "one offs", but I'm really enjoying this Trumpeter Sturer Emil, and it would be a great first open topped armoured kits for a learner ... it is well engineered and there's nothing screamingly inaccurate with it.

That said, I'm thinking of getting a replacement barrel for it, and maybe a set of individual track.

Anyway, got the gun breech in place and cleaned up the wheels. The superstructure has not been glued down because I still need to pick out some details inside ... I gave the base paint a coat of dullcote about a week ago, and it should be well and truly dry by now.





I'm still trying to fiure out where they put the engine when they chopped up the gun tank to mount the 128mm.





PS: I kniow the wheels are out of sequence, but they're not glued on yet.
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Posted: Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 03:31 AM UTC
Another shot of one of the Sturer Emils .... definitely some sort of cam pattern:


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Posted: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:47 AM UTC
This was always going to be a "minimalist" build, but one item that needed to be replaced was the gun - which was undersized, and would have been hard to clean up with the model's two piece construction.

I got the RB Models barrel for a good price from eBay ... it's a very nice upgrade, but putting it together is a case of trial and error in the absence of any instructions. I still don't know what to do with those little tabs left on the etched fret):



How undersized the kit barrel is becomes immediately evident:





One aspect of the Sturer Emil was its "over the top" main gun, which looks even more so with the correct sized barrel installed (I cut some ridges in the base and set in place with two pack epoxy). I also got a set of Tristar SP gun figures, which should do nicely as a crew.


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Posted: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 10:18 AM UTC
You did good replacing the barrel Mick and the figures will give it that extra kick too.
A very unique SPG and I love it.

Tony the Mutt
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Posted: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 11:44 AM UTC
Potential locations for the tabs - just guesses!


On top of Muzzle Brake - this is on Trumpeter's but not RB's.

In that hole - it looks about the right size?

Just a few guesses. All in all, you have an immaculately clean build. Very neat.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 12:41 PM UTC
Hi mick

as the RB barrel is the Amourscale one without the resin additions, nice packaging and instructions take a squint at the instructions to give you an idea of where those two bits of brass go.

Here's a copy on Terry's page of the barrels review

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/armorscale/b35021.htm

and a list of items available for the kit with reviews here

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/subject/emil.htm

I'd go for the Hobby Boss tracks personally , can't beat them for price.

I may go silly and get the Voyager PE set for mine when I get it .

Alan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 01:27 PM UTC
Just spent about 45 minutes putting the crew together - they fit in perfectly with the "no brainer" build and will not nee any modification for the Sturer Emil. Even better, their uniforms will be plain field grey and there's not equipment or rifle slings.



Since all the huge shell cases of the two piece ammo was stored away in lockers, I opted to have the guy on the ground passing one up, although he could just as easily have been modded to be holding one of the humungous projectiles.



I've just finished Antony Beevor's excellent tour de force Staingrad and I think I'll title the diorama "Calm before the storm - road to Stalingrad".

One can only imagine how invincible the Nazis would have initially felt with two of these behomeths punching holes in T34s thousands of metres away, and how useless they would have later become is the absence of any mechanical spares or ammunition after the 6th Army was encircled.
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 12:09 PM UTC

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I'm still trying to fiure out where they put the engine when they chopped up the gun tank to mount the 128mm.



that will be the "box" underneath the gun.

correct me if I'm wrong, be I seem to remember that a Sturer caught fire because of engine overheating

so the Sturer wasn't a "fast" gun ,just verry big and accurate,shots upto and beyond 2000 meters!

greetz
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 12:25 PM UTC

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I'm still trying to fiure out where they put the engine when they chopped up the gun tank to mount the 128mm.



that will be the "box" underneath the gun.

correct me if I'm wrong, be I seem to remember that a Sturer caught fire because of engine overheating

so the Sturer wasn't a "fast" gun ,just verry big and accurate,shots upto and beyond 2000 meters!

greetz



I'll think you'll find that was a Dicker Max:

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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:10 PM UTC
Hi

Jointhpit is correct in his location of the engine, directly under the gun, don't know about the overheating comment though.

If you look at the picture you posted earlier Mick you see the gun pointing right down in the image, almost touching the front superstructure. Apparently this is what had to be done to work on and remove the engine for maintenance purposes.

I'm ordering mine hopefully today along with Hobbyboss tracks.

As regards camo. I think, apart from the winter whitewash images I've seen, there are a couple of images of one which as you say appears to have a pattern on it. Maybe green over grey. I've a couple of images of the one with kill marks on the barrel and you can see areas of contrast to the barrel and structure which would not be light or dust, dirt build up.

Can't post them as gallery is down at present. If you like I can email the images I have ?


Alan
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:25 PM UTC

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Hi


As regards camo. I think, apart from the winter whitewash images I've seen, there are a couple of images of one which as you say appears to have a pattern on it. Maybe green over grey. I've a couple of images of the one with kill marks on the barrel and you can see areas of contrast to the barrel and structure which would not be light or dust, dirt build up.

Can't post them as gallery is down at present. If you like I can email the images I have ?


Alan



That'd be great - [email protected]

Cheers!
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Posted: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 05:01 AM UTC

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I'm ordering mine hopefully today along with Hobbyboss tracks.



these tracks look great, but I found it inpossible to get them to sit right on the drive sprocket, finaly µi had to file the teethe to a point , just to make'm fit.

hope you have better luck

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Posted: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 06:44 AM UTC

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these tracks look great, but I found it inpossible to get them to sit right on the drive sprocket, finaly µi had to file the teethe to a point , just to make'm fit. hope you have better luck




Hi

Thanks for the warning. Did you use and are we talking about the sprockets from the Trumpeter kit or the ones supplied by HobbyBoss with the tracks ?

Cheers

Alan
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:40 AM UTC
Just a quick update - the wheels are about to go on permanently and I have started tinkering with the Hobby Boss tracks (not impressed so far - five mounting points for each link, and the supplied drive sprockets don't mesh well with the tracks:



Those with sharp eyes will note that I only have one headlight fitted ... is there anyone out there who installed the round headlights on their vehicle that have a spare rectangular unit (same as the one I have mounted on the front left fender) spare?
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:59 AM UTC
Hi Mick

As I posted in your other topic I'm less than impressed by the Hobby Boss tracks as well. I guess it's the old story, you gets what you pay for. If you get completely fed up with them at least you have a great close to home alternative, as I'm assuming the kit tracks are a no no.

lAlternative tracks

The tracks are available direct from:
WWII Productions
PO Box 100 Waratah
NSW 2298
Australia

Phone 61 2 4967 3205 (from inside Australia 02 4967 3205)
Fax 61 2 4967 3207 (from inside Australia 02 4967 3207)
Email: [email protected]

Having said that someone managed a pretty good build using the Hobby Boss ones, but not without a struggle.

Sturer Emil Build

All the best

Alan
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:15 PM UTC

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Just a quick update - the wheels are about to go on permanently and I have started tinkering with the Hobby Boss tracks (not impressed so far - five mounting points for each link, and the supplied drive sprockets don't mesh well with the tracks:



Those with sharp eyes will note that I only have one headlight fitted ... is there anyone out there who installed the round headlights on their vehicle that have a spare rectangular unit (same as the one I have mounted on the front left fender) spare?



This photo really show's the length of that gun!!! awesome looking thing!
Great build up, any idea's as to how you'll paint the 'Big girl' ? (definitly a hint of camo as you say in that B&W photo)
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Posted: Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 08:45 PM UTC
Quiet Easter Monday here, so I thought I'd bust out the paints and brushes and give the interior a touch up (didn't go overboard because these vehicles were new and they weren't around for long:





Also put some projectiles in the racks and attached the super structure.

In anyone else is building one of these, I have misplaced one of the rectangular headlight units ... is there anyone out there who built a vehicle with the round lights and has them spare?
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Posted: Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:37 AM UTC
This is shaping up to be a great build Mick, great choice of crew too. I'll be watching from here on in.
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