Da Vinci's Tortoise (RetroTracks 1/72)
Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:34 PM UTC
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Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:40 PM UTC
Next: painting of the metal parts in Gun Metal (Model Master) and Boltgun Metal (Citadel Colors).
I used the decals sheet edited by RetroTracks for that kit and chossed the Holy Roman Empire emblem. That's why I made the shields... There are fixed on the "proto-tank".
For the presentation, no diorama but just the Tortoise and the genius (that is not painted yet...)
The first two photos are taken with the use of the flash, the three last ones are under artificial light
It was a quick but pleasant build
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Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:08 PM UTC
Very neat little vehicle but shouldn't it be in the Early Armor forum
The wood effect work really well.
Pat
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Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Very neat little vehicle but shouldn't it be in the Early Armor forum The wood effect work really well.
...As a "proto-WWI-tank"
Thanks for your appreciation of my wood rendering
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Jerusalem, Israel
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:24 AM UTC
I really like your model! the wood looks very realistic, and the whole idea of it is great
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Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 05:57 AM UTC
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:56 AM UTC
Very nice job Daniel. I will definitely try your "wood technique" on my Retrokit Tortoise as it looks wonderful.
Patrick Keenan
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Sachsen, Germany
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 04:05 AM UTC
Very interesting and rare object! Looks good, I like the wooden structure!
greetings...
Soeren
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Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 06:07 AM UTC
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 06:58 AM UTC
It really does have a very good wood texture to it. Very well done.
There is some show I've seen on one of the Discovery type channels where people tried to make a full scale replica of this tank and tried to get it to work. It's pretty interesting if you ever get a chance to watch it.
Yours looks better than theirs did though.
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Gelderland, Netherlands
Joined: July 11, 2006
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:07 AM UTC
Nice work!!
But... DaVinci's design would never ever move one inch...
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:38 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Nice work!! But... DaVinci's design would never ever move one inch...
That very well may be true. However, it is still interesting to see built in model form.
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California, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 09:26 AM UTC
Daniel,
Thank you for posting your little tortoise and for sharing your wood and metal painting techniques. Your miniture detailed "proto-tank" has turned out amazingly realistic. Very good set of photos too! Nice use of the bottle caps.
Hope we see more of your builds here.
-Eddy
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 01:51 PM UTC
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 05:09 PM UTC
Daniel,
The "wood coloring" technique worked very well. Very nice little gem you have there!
I appreciate you sharing this with us.
Mike
Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 07:07 AM UTC
Thank you very much, all of you!
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:38 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Nice work!!
But... DaVinci's design would never ever move one inch...
Not so sure I agree with you about it moving an inch.
You're referring, no doubt, to the drawing we have which has placed a gear mechanism on the wrong side of the front axle line, such that the front wheels would have rotated backwards, while the rear wheels rotated forwards.
Many scholars believe this to be an intentional misrepresentation of the mechanism by Leonardo, as he was kind of neurotic about people ripping off his ideas. If someone stole the drawings, they would have had trouble creating the armoured car correctly.
Considering Leonardo is a master of mechanical drawing, I highly doubt the flaw in the plans was unintentional...
So maybe that armoured car would in fact have moved quite well.
By the way Daniel: I love your little model there, and I too find your wood technique fantastic. I am about to try to use it on a wooden jacking chock for a Tiger I in fact!
Keep up the good work!
Florida, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:49 AM UTC
Daniel: Did you clearcoat the Tamiya paint before applying the oil paints? I'm worried the oil paint will attack the Tamiya base.
Also, when you applied the oil colors, how heavily did you apply it? Was it thinned at all?
Thanks for your help!
Jim
Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 04:14 AM UTC
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Daniel: Did you clearcoat the Tamiya paint before applying the oil paints? I'm worried the oil paint will attack the Tamiya base.
Also, when you applied the oil colors, how heavily did you apply it? Was it thinned at all?
Thanks for your help!
Jim
Hello Jim,
No, I did not clearcoat the Tamiya paint. In fact, acrylic colors are microporus; so when applying the oil over the acrylic, the oil fulfill the acrylic and that gives that so nice effect.
The Tamiya colors are not "damaged" by oil paint anyway.
I applied the oil paint in good quantity, fully covering the tank. At that time he was looking brown only... Removing the oil with Q-tip took a large amount of Q-tips.
The oil paint was not thinned.
HTH
Daniel
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Grumpyoldman
ConsigliereFlorida, United States
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 06:01 AM UTC
Daniel,
That looks excellent.
I suggest taking lots of photos and sending them to any one of your favorite editors for a nice ON Display.
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Nice work!!
But... DaVinci's design would never ever move one inch...
Oh really Herbert.
http://www.factualtv.com/documentary/Re-Inventors-The-Da-Vinci-Tank Alan
Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 02:36 PM UTC
Very cool. Would have never thought of the Tortoise for a build. Think I'll try scratch building one, if I don't get locked up first. Found out it doesn't matter if it is instinct, striking someone with a third degree Thai Chi Kuan move is completely unacceptable.
Cause I'm a hoodie ninja.
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Grumpyoldman
Consigliere Florida, United States
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 03:20 PM UTC
Pretty entertaining Al, I enjoyed the show.
Character is what you do when no one is looking.
Few things are harder to put up with than a good example.- Mark Twain
Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure that there is one less scoundrel in the world.--Thomas Carlyle
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 02:43 AM UTC
Daniel,
Extremeley nice looking build. I really like the wood look.
Al,
Great show! I never seen that.
Tony
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Namur, Belgium
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Posted: Monday, November 23, 2009 - 06:56 AM UTC
Once again, thank you very much, all of you!
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