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Pnzr-Cmdr

Joined: July 16, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 02:23 PM UTC
i've recently started this kit and am at a stalemate on waht to do next. i need to make the zim coating but i do not know how. this is tamiya's kit #89562*3500 no zim is provided and i don't know waht to do. if anyone can give me help i'd really appreciate it.

Kelley

Joined: November 21, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:22 PM UTC
John,
Below is a link to an article on Track-link that is pretty good, it explains everything from the history of the stuff to how to apply it to your models. I will add that Cavalier resin zimmerit sheets are now much easier to find, and they have a larger product line. Another company called Atak makes the same kind of product. You can find one or both at many different online hobby shops, or maybe your local shop. Also Eduard makes photo-etch zimmerit, personally I find it to be a little too uniform, but some people like it.
HTH
Mike
http://www.track-link.net/articles/15
Below is a link to an article on Track-link that is pretty good, it explains everything from the history of the stuff to how to apply it to your models. I will add that Cavalier resin zimmerit sheets are now much easier to find, and they have a larger product line. Another company called Atak makes the same kind of product. You can find one or both at many different online hobby shops, or maybe your local shop. Also Eduard makes photo-etch zimmerit, personally I find it to be a little too uniform, but some people like it.
HTH
Mike
http://www.track-link.net/articles/15

Pnzr-Cmdr

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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 05:21 PM UTC
thanks alot for the information i rally appreciate it and now have to get some funding to finally finish the tiger. i'll post pictures when it's complete

Pnzr-Cmdr

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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:14 PM UTC
I've read about the hot knife method on the site that was provided from Lt. Kelley. i got the gist of how it's done but i'd liike to hear it from someone who has done it and had good results. if you don't mind please share how you did this
thanks
thanks

Part-timer

Joined: April 11, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 07:33 AM UTC
Of course, there's the time-honored method of using putty and a razor-saw balde to make grooves in it. It's the only way I've ever done it. Does anyone still do this, or have the other methods completely eclipsed it?

Paul_Owen

Joined: May 11, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:36 AM UTC
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I just read that Track-link article. I have no idea what he means by the hot knife method looking "fake." I've seen some excellent zimmerit jobs by Bob Oehler of Tamiya that were done using this method. Mr. Owen must need to have his eyes checked or something.
I beg your pardon? There is nothing wrong with my eye sight thank you. Also thanks for the personal attack they always make one feel most welcome.

Part-timer

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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:02 AM UTC
I beg your pardon? There is nothing wrong with my eye sight thank you. Also thanks for the personal attack they always make one feel most welcome.
Yikes. Paul, I'm sure that rotc_wildcat had no intention of insulting you, or anybody else, with his post. That said, I can easily see why you took a bit of offense.
First, I think rotc_wildcat had no expectation that you would see his post, and will probably be stunned to see that you did. Second, I think that his comment was intended not to insult your obviously excellent article, but rather to praise some of the hot-knife-zimmerit he's seen.
On another note: I was interested (glad?) to see from your article that I'm not the only one that still likes the putty method. I got pretty decent results the first (and only) time I tried it; if I can manage it, it can't be that difficult.
Yikes. Paul, I'm sure that rotc_wildcat had no intention of insulting you, or anybody else, with his post. That said, I can easily see why you took a bit of offense.
First, I think rotc_wildcat had no expectation that you would see his post, and will probably be stunned to see that you did. Second, I think that his comment was intended not to insult your obviously excellent article, but rather to praise some of the hot-knife-zimmerit he's seen.
On another note: I was interested (glad?) to see from your article that I'm not the only one that still likes the putty method. I got pretty decent results the first (and only) time I tried it; if I can manage it, it can't be that difficult.


GunTruck

Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:05 AM UTC
Moderator Interruption - Everyone to their neutral corners!
Rotc - I think an apology to Paul is in order. We all have our preferences with techniques. Variety is the spice of life. It's just one opinion of many.
Paul - you know Armorama is a kind and considerate site - I'm sure Rotc didn't mean insult and offense.
Gunnie
Rotc - I think an apology to Paul is in order. We all have our preferences with techniques. Variety is the spice of life. It's just one opinion of many.
Paul - you know Armorama is a kind and considerate site - I'm sure Rotc didn't mean insult and offense.
Gunnie

Paul_Owen

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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:17 AM UTC
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Paul - you know Armorama is a kind and considerate site.Gunnie
Yes I know Armorama is a good site, I visit here almost every day. I just wish I had more time these days to participate... heck I don't even have the time to participate on my site any more ;-)

GunTruck

Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 02:14 PM UTC
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Paul - you know Armorama is a kind and considerate site.Gunnie
Yes I know Armorama is a good site, I visit here almost every day. I just wish I had more time these days to participate... heck I don't even have the time to participate on my site any more ;-)
You have many friends of TL here at Armorama and vice versa - the fireplace is always warm whenever you get a chance to visit!
Gunnie
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