REVIEW
LionRoar M1078 LMTV Resin Tires
California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 03:22 PM UTC
Gino P. Quintiliani takes a look at the M1078 LMTV Replacement Wheels from Lion Roar.
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If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
Paris, France
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 04:24 PM UTC
Ok Thanks for the review Gino
But I I do believe that the final mark is really high 35 bucks for a wrong spare wheel when you can buy for 21 buck a good kit from PAM.
Better kit and cheaper, what else ???
Overijssel, Netherlands
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 05:52 PM UTC
from pam its 15 euro for the wheels
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:06 PM UTC
What's pam, and do you have a link?
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Niedersachsen, Germany
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:26 PM UTC
PAM is Pro Art Models from Belgium.
Here is a link to their website:
http://www.proartmodels.be Best regards from germany
Thomas
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:33 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:41 PM UTC
Quoted Text
from pam its 15 euro for the wheels
+ 13.1 euros for shipping (Europe) = 28,1 euros....(about $40.00)
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Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:56 PM UTC
Hope you like it and "watch those negative waves"
Niedersachsen, Germany
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 01:09 AM UTC
@Dave: There are listed three US distritbutors on the Pro Art Models website.
I think you will find the Pro Art Models wheels set in the United States, too.
Best regards from germany
Thomas
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 03:36 AM UTC
Thanks again.
Good review Gino.
I find it interesting that they made the same mistake as Trumpeter on the bolts for the rims. In my opinion, it doesn't seem to be much of an improvement over just using the kits parts.
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 05:53 AM UTC
Thanks guys. I agree that they are not that much of an improvement over the kit tires. For those who can't stand to use rubber tires they are a good option though.
To me the missing bolts are not that big of a deal and are easy to fix.
On the price, I based it on what I found at US distributors. I'm sure it will vary by country.
Would I normally pay $35 for them, personally no, but many will just to have the resin wheels.
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Showcase
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 - 12:33 PM UTC
Here's the dilemma: I appreciate the enhanced level of detail possible with these resin tires, but can't find that level of detail to be a "must-have" when faced with the cost which is close to the price of the base kit. It's like buying Fruil tracks for an Academy Sheridan to obtain that special track sag (that can't be done as well with the one-piece vinyl track), and knowing those tracks will actually cost more than the kit. It's all ties to what you want. As for me, I want the cheap ones that carry the idea of reasonable in-scale appearance.
I'm not cheap, but like many others in this hobby, my funds are not without limit!
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 - 12:58 PM UTC
Another option is to just cast your own copies of the kits tires in resin, im pretty sure thats basically what Lionroar have done-well clearly if they matched the bolt mistakes!
I never understood the point in resin tyres. Unless they are an improvement over kit tires in terms of accuracy. If they are just the same as the kit tires then I will just mold the kit tires and save a lot of money.
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Paris, France
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 - 01:32 PM UTC
Not totally agree with you Rob on that
You seems to forget that vinyl tires are not very well know to stand the UV on the vitrine.
Based on my experience, I will replace the vinyl tires with the resins one only for this reason.
My humvee tires from TAM cracked after 18 months of regular exposure of sun light in my living room in Switzerland same to the tires of my BTR-70 from Dragon.
Now and for the future resin tires.
What do you think ??
Tokyo-to, Japan / 日本
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 - 02:08 PM UTC
Giving the tires a good coat of sealant will prevent the cracking, but this is a variable. My TAM HUMVEE tires are fine on the shelf, but my JGSDF LAV tires are totally cracked even after sealing them.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 11:04 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Not totally agree with you Rob on that
You seems to forget that vinyl tires are not very well know to stand the UV on the vitrine.
Based on my experience, I will replace the vinyl tires with the resins one only for this reason.
My humvee tires from TAM cracked after 18 months of regular exposure of sun light in my living room in Switzerland same to the tires of my BTR-70 from Dragon.
Now and for the future resin tires.
What do you think ??
I quite agree with you Seb about vinyl tires, some tyres from my Tamiya humvee have cracked. I was more commenting on spending lots of money on resin AM tyres, when one could just easily cast their own copies of the vinyl kit tyres. Often AM tyre sets are VERY pricey, and no more than a recast of vinyl tires-so why not do it yourself!?
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