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Dioramas: Water Effects
Water! A sometimes intimidating effect.
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T-70 vignette
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 04:49 AM UTC
Ok, I don't have a title for the vignette so I'm stuck with a boring title until I come up with new one. The idea for the vignette came from this picture

The picture is from Ian Allan's Hitler’s Artic War. As you can see there is a small river, with ice and snow. I want to recreate this so I placed this blog in the water effects section. So the focus of this vignette will be the frozen river.
The kit that I'll be using is T-70 from Miniart

As for the figures I will be converting Miniarts figures from the kits box.
Because the kit is pretty plain I will be using Aber set

I just started working on the model at the moment I'm cleaning the major parts

There's not a lot of parts as you can see. :lol:
Primož
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 05:12 AM UTC
Hello friend!
Looks interesting, I'm waiting to see how you'll manage to do that kind of ground effects.
wow, and this black background for your pics is perfect, even more when snowy ground time will come.
Take care,
Alexandre.
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 06:44 AM UTC
Thanks Alexandre!
You know what, I'm wondering myself if I'm able to pull it off. time will tell.

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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 02:52 AM UTC
love this kind of ground work and would really like to try it myself so am always following builds for tips. Good luck will be watching
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 08:10 AM UTC
Thanks for commenting Andy.
Small update; it took me three hours to clean the tracks :evil:

Few pics of the progress





Minor detailing

and the first PE parts being assembled and soldered


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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 11:33 PM UTC
Nice quick build so far. The PE is really going to improve it.

What are your plans for the ice? Parfin was, resin, painted styrene?
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Posted: Monday, December 21, 2009 - 12:46 AM UTC
Hi Scott!

I was thinking parafin wax but I may go with tinted resin. I will try both methods and then choose one.

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Posted: Monday, December 21, 2009 - 01:02 AM UTC
Good deal - I've seen parfin that comes out really well.
Keep the blog going.
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Posted: Friday, December 25, 2009 - 02:42 AM UTC
A small update; tracks and fenders





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Posted: Friday, December 25, 2009 - 03:25 AM UTC
Yo Bajtur,

Very interisting project...a good start so far.

I'am looking forward to see the groundwork.

Greetz Nico
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Posted: Friday, December 25, 2009 - 11:12 PM UTC
Nice one Bajtur,

Very interesting project...Love to see the final project.

Greets
Jernej
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Posted: Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 12:05 AM UTC
Thanks guys!

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Posted: Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 09:33 AM UTC
Great build... Will you be putting the T-70 into the icy water?

Theres a great Dio in Xtreme Modelling's Frozen Hell book that has a T-26 crashing through the ice into a freezing cold lake. Your dio reminds me alot of this.
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Posted: Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 09:52 AM UTC
Hello friend!

Great work on this, fenders looks very sharp and clean.
I like your pics too!
Waiting for the Next step. What about working on the ground and ice effect?

Alex.
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Posted: Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 08:11 PM UTC
That's quite a competent soldering job you've been doing here Primož
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 12:58 AM UTC
Thanks Alex and JBA!
Alex- I will start with the groundwork tomorrow.
JBA.- with all the aftermarket PE that's on the tanks this days you have to learn to solder so that everything holds firm when you paint it.

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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:28 PM UTC
I have made a little progress on this one.Unfortunately I have to finish some other projects and then I will have the time only for this one. I've finally glued the fenders to the hull




The tracks are ready for the primer


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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 02:04 AM UTC
I finally ended the building phase






I'm slowly working on figures and the base





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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 02:55 AM UTC
looking GREAT so far...what is the "hedge" material & leaves??
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 03:37 AM UTC
Yo Bajtur,

Great looking base! Good start...The hedge is spot on.

Always enjoying work from a ref pic.

Keep up!

Greetz Nico
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 04:47 AM UTC
this look good Primož BUT take care with the borders of your diorama. Quite often it makes the difference between something okay and something really good. For the moment the plaster base looks really scruffy with plaster run offs on each side -really try to get the stuff the smoothest and the straightest possible!
I keep on watching..
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 05:09 AM UTC
Thanks for commenting guys!

Patrick, the hedge is rubberized horse hair and the leaves are from some dried out plant.

JBA. the edge is not finished yet. The sides will be hidden by wood. I'm still thinking to which height will the wood edges reach. What do you think? Should I leave the water line (2cm) to be seen from the sides?

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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 09:59 AM UTC
i would suggest that you fit the wood before the water, and have it go all the way up.That way you will have something to keep the liquid resin from running off of the base.
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Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 10:20 PM UTC
sorry for the late Primož

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JBA. the edge is not finished yet. The sides will be hidden by wood. I'm still thinking to which height will the wood edges reach. What do you think? Should I leave the water line (2cm) to be seen from the sides?



based on what i saw from others -and what i am doing myself...
Nope, don't let the 2 cm of water being visible from the sides. I suppose people who do that will claim that it's for the water to be sort of lighten up from the sides, and also to show what a bootiful water it is.
I say, those dioramas look like you've been pouring some British mint Jelly near your panzers (if the water is green that is).
I don't really like it either when the base is level with the water because when you are looking at the diorama the "water horizon" is cut by some frame and this is no good.
What i do is to leave maybe 3 mm or 4 mm of water raised over the framing, and depending on the colour and transparency of the water I paint the inside of the framing with a more or less dark colour..
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