Im Russian about again...KVII (1940)
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Posted: Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:58 PM UTC
Hi guys....this is the Tamiya KV II...I have scratched the turret...added Edward etch and other brass bits..converted some of the hull, textured some cast parts and will add Friulmodel tracks.
...any help in finding a method of getting the barrel rifles would be most welcome
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/59747/KVII_Frnt_work-up.jpgto see them all
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=401268Hope you can help
Alasdair
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Posted: Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:21 PM UTC
First of all welcome aboard the best site around. Nice model so far SlapHead, keep on posting the progress. For what concerns the other questions I suppose you mean the rifling inside the barrel, in this case it's quite complicated and time consuming task. I've done it once with .25mm plasticard strips before glueing the two barrel halves, quite stressing but the overall effect was not bad at all...
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Fabio
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Posted: Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:57 PM UTC
Your build looks good so far. What made you decide to rebuild the turret???? I've never seen the kit parts. soplease enlighten me. STUG
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 01:08 AM UTC
Basicly for this model of KVII the turret is totally changed from the 'production' type...note the angled plates and differing roller mantlet ....the angled frount 1/4 plates, the rear plate angles and bolted weapon access plate..turret roof layout is also totally changed....have a look at a 'standard version' by a mate on WW2MM
http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/images/ddkvii/DSCN1001.JPGMassachusetts, United States
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 01:40 AM UTC
Looks like you put alot of extra work into making a specific version of the KV-II. The pic of your buddies KV-II is awesome. The Tamiya KV-II kit is not a bad kit alone, although its ancient by todays standards. Good to see a change from constant T-34/85s. Hope we get to see more pics of your KV-II. I have one question for you: where did you get your reference for the scratch built turret ?
Good work so far, on a not so easy kit.
Cheers !
Robert
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 02:23 AM UTC
Alasdiar, you Dawg! You snouk over here (too -
) :-)
Really, as I said, love that KV - baby, and must also admit that the early turret looks sweet!
Dave
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 02:50 AM UTC
Hi the 'limmited ref' I have are from some crazy Russian books and a couple of Shiffer books...but limmited...that said...given the turret ring and some good ref points on the hull which was pretty much the same I have worked it out...but expect I might get some flak from those who really know their stuff...that said I woud love to see there plans !! so bring it on as I could do with rebuilding it now its nearly finnished !! if there is some better refs >>>>he he
DC ...Hi...Im much more active elseware but have started to get into this site...mainly thanks to Lee Lloyd...cheers Lee...
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:46 AM UTC
Hi Leee..replace the turret...now....you must be joking buddy...toooooo much stress for me to chuck it now (unless it is radacally incorrect...do you know if it is ??.)....really I would love to know if I have screwed it up..I know you have some Russian refs...have anything on this ??
The "?" stuff is being worked up by fig painters now.(some big old names have it now)..not me as I am rubbish at them...I will keep you posted on the most anal developmet the model world has seen for a while....!! dont forget to ask Dave P for me with regard to the trial / review /f irst showing
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:16 AM UTC
Alasdair,
No problem about being here at Armorama or at WW2ModelMaker. I want to see this bad Russian Boy finished soon with or without figures.
Keep us posted bro!
Dave C
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 06:42 AM UTC
HI Lee ...opps...twig...It would be nice to see some plans of this...I have had to estimate a number of things (a friend in AMPS helped out) but I still would like to double check on a few remaining 'wonder if I got that right things'. if you know what I mean......so if I could take you up on the offer on those and ask you to kick start a quick scan I would be thankful for them...
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 02:10 PM UTC
Alasdair -- Your KV-II looks beautiful. You did a great job scratch-building the early style turret. Just a quick pointer, if you can swing it I would highly suggest replacing the wheels with either the Trakz or Hussar offerings as the Tamiya kit wheels are the worst part of the kit (well maybe second worst after the tracks). What tracks are you going to use on this beast?
Also, email me offline (
[email protected]) and I can send you a bunch of photos and/or line drawings of the early style turreted KV-II for you to check yours against. I have a serious love of the KV (in fact, I am building a KV-II myself right now) and have quite a bit of reference material on them.
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:43 PM UTC
Thanks...check you e-mail....the track will be the F-Model metal ones
One big problem at the moment id the barrel rifles...I am stuch big time here...there are etch barrel linings about but as yet I cannot find any !!...any thgoughts
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:43 AM UTC
In regards to the barrel riflings, have you tried asking for the On The Mark Soviet rifling set on the different armor modeling websites (a.k.a. here, TL, ML, and WW2 Model Maker, etc.)? There has to be someone out there sitting on a set of those that would be willing to part wih them. You may even want to try calling OTM to see if he has any old sets lying around.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:09 AM UTC
One thing I've noticed that you have wrong with your model (I have it wrong on mine too because I noticed it too late
) is the turret ring splash guard armor on the front and rear of the hull. According to my references, the only version of the KV that had that installed is the KV-1e with the add-on armor. Unfortunately, Tamiya stupidly chose to mold this stuff on to the hull and base other 2 KV models on this hull. Had they molded those pieces of add-on armor seperate, the KV-2 and KV-1C models would be a bit more accurate.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:54 PM UTC
Well spoted...sometimes you just cannot see the woods for the trees !!!....thanks ever so much for the scans you e mailed...great
Alasdair
Now will it be finnised by AMPS East....who knows
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:59 PM UTC
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One thing I've noticed that you have wrong with your model (I have it wrong on mine too because I noticed it too late ) is the turret ring splash guard armor on the front and rear of the hull. According to my references, the only version of the KV that had that installed is the KV-1e with the add-on armor. Unfortunately, Tamiya stupidly chose to mold this stuff on to the hull and base other 2 KV models on this hull. Had they molded those pieces of add-on armor seperate, the KV-2 and KV-1C models would be a bit more accurate.
Adam, the thing you are talking about, is this the triangle thing right in front of the turret? If so do I need to remove it? As you know. I am also working on the KV II.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:53 AM UTC
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Adam, the thing you are talking about, is this the triangle thing right in front of the turret? If so do I need to remove it? As you know. I am also working on the KV II.
Dave--Yep. The triangle or "V" shape in front of the turret ring and the 2 rectangular parts at the rear of the turret ring. That also goes for anyone building the KV-1C from Tamiya.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:01 AM UTC
RATS....also spotted the turret roof detsils...the hatch is in need of repositioning ...ah well I can blame Mr avukich , He was the one who sent the details to me...rats...never mind not to far in...got the meaurements correct though...some 'funnies' in the plans but they should be OK to fix now I have the pics ect...again guys...thanks
