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a CJ-5 Jeep and an M38 Jeep are different animals. The CJ-5 is about 20% bigger, but they do bare similar cosmetics. The frame and suspension is similar in design, but of course a little bigger.

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I found the following Spec info on the internet: Don't know if it is correct It came from 3 different sites.

M38A1 wb 81". L 138-5/8" W 60-7/8" max H 74-3/4" min H 56-1/2"
CJ5 wb 81.1" L 138.6" W 61.0" H 68.5"
CJ7 wb 93.4" L 153.2" W 65.3" H 71.9" (soft top)

It appears the CJ5 and M38A1 are the same size

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MB/GPW wb 80" L 132.25" W 62" H 69.75 " (tpop Up) 52" (top down)
M151 wb ? L 133" W 64" H 71"

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Yes, the M38A1 and the CJ-5 are the same basic vehicle. The M38A1 is a militarized CJ-5. It was an intrim vehicle that was pressed into service during the Korean war to fill the gap of needed Jeeps since the Army had sold off a lot of Jeeps as surplus after WWII.

The differences were minor:
The M-38A1 differed from the CJ-5 in that it had a stronger frame and suspension, reversed front spring shackles, standardized GI instruments, and a 24-volt electrical system. A provision for a machine gun mounting post was installed on the floor of the body tub.

I'm back again.
sometime in the early 1970's Jeep stretched the front fenders and hood five inches (mine was a 1974) so they could put in a V8 as well as the AMC inline six cylinder engine. Now thinking back, I now think maybe it was the eight cylinder engine instead of the V6 as they don't even list it for that year. I know for sure it was not a four cylinder engine. So it appears that there actually was two different CJ-5's (I had mine for about three months, and that was in the late 1970's)
gary

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I'm back again.
sometime in the early 1970's Jeep stretched the front fenders and hood five inches (mine was a 1974) so they could put in a V8 as well as the AMC inline six cylinder engine. Now thinking back, I now think maybe it was the eight cylinder engine instead of the V6 as they don't even list it for that year. I know for sure it was not a four cylinder engine. So it appears that there actually was two different CJ-5's (I had mine for about three months, and that was in the late 1970's)
gary

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You are correct. Found at http://www.4-the-love-of-jeeps.com/jeep-cj6.html

"The Jeep CJ6: The Long And Short Of It!?

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By 1972 Both the CJ6 and the CJ5 were lengthened another 3 inches each to accomodate American Motors larger, more powerful engines.

The two Jeeps shared everything except length. Initially they were available with the Kaiser/Willys 4 cylinder (134 c.i.) F-head engine as standard with an optional V6 (Buick Dauntless 225 c.i.) or 4-cylinder (192 c.i.) diesel.

Later, new owners American Motors Corporation, installed a GM and soon after, an AMC 4-cylinder engine as base standard, while the AMC in-line sixes ( 232 c.i. or 258 c.i.) and V8 (304 c.i.) were options.

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Well, there's three different vehicles to choose from:
M38A1
CJ-5 (civil version of the M38A1)
and
M606A2/A3 (military export version of the CJ-5)

The vehicle lacks details that I would expect to see on a M38A1, it have a bumper used on CJ-5/M606A2/A3 and it have the split windshield (feature of M38A1 and M606AX - a CJ-5 should have a one piece windshield). So I'll still vote for an M606A2/A3 (I don't know exactely what the differences are between A2 and A3).

Can the M606AX been exported to some of the allied forces in Vietnam and then perhaps "liberated" by the transportation unit?

Regarding the AFV Club kit it could probably be changed but do you have to build exactly the one in the photo (wich I assume to be an M606AX)? I would rather just build it as an M38A1 (saves you the trouble). Animal and Sapper141 among others confirms its use. So independently of the exact version in the photo the M38A1 did serve in the army/Vietnam. As for now I can't think of any other photo of it in army/Vietnam use - only USMC one's comes to mind. Perhaps you could build a small scene with one in USMC markings beeing painted over by some army soldier. Or is it totally unrealistic that a jeep could be "borrowed"?

I'd be glad if somebody would correct/confirm my assumptions.

/Cheers,
/E

Hi fellas,
Oh Frenchy! Superb photos, yet again! There are some Army ones & USMC ones! Brilliant!
Two questions: Were the USMC markings always in yellow (for all their vehicles?) & what is that trailer in the foreground of one of those photos (the trailer up near the camera)? What model manufacturer, if any, make this trailer?
Yeah, okay, that's three questions...
Joe.

what is that trailer in the foreground of one of those photos (the trailer up near the camera)? What model manufacturer, if any, make this trailer?

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what is that trailer in the foreground of one of those photos (the trailer up near the camera)? What model manufacturer, if any, make this trailer?

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Looks like a M100 1/4 ton trailer :

Don't know of any 1/35th scale kit for it, but it's quite close to the WW2 1/4 ton jeep trailer (included in the old Tamiya and Italeri Jeep kits ) :
http://wwiijeepparts.com/Archives/JeepTrailer.html
http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m100.php

Frenchy

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what is that trailer in the foreground of one of those photos (the trailer up near the camera)? What model manufacturer, if any, make this trailer?

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Looks like a M100 1/4 ton trailer :

Don't know of any 1/35th scale kit for it, but it's quite close to the WW2 1/4 ton jeep trailer (included in the old Tamiya and Italeri Jeep kits ) :
http://wwiijeepparts.com/Archives/JeepTrailer.html
http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m100.php

Frenchy

Hi guys,
Thanks Andy, for the Academy Mutt tip & Chris, I dont suppose you could post those killer images on this thread, could you? Or, mabye even PM me?
Thanks guys. I like the way this thread is going. Keep up your responses!
Joe.

By the way, I checked out that Academy M151A2 hardtop with trailer & the wheel arches on the kit trailer are much more angular than the arches on the one in the above photo.