Dioramas: Water Effects
Water! A sometimes intimidating effect.
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 06:43 AM UTC
JBA, my friend !
Good points on what can and/or should be modelled . I sometimes have to keep reminding myself about the practicalities of modelling; like your motto: "Too much colour distracts the viewer" . Anyways, I LOVE how the seagulls have turned out for you. KUDOS ! By the way, my "birds" too are done ! Thanks to your good advice and SBS pictures, I finally managed to finish my sculpts for the 2 seagulls. Now all I need is to arrange the various components of the vignette together and I can finally post some pictures for you to see, Jean. Cheers !
Kenneth .
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 07:14 AM UTC
Yo Jba,

Your colors are trully superb...the depth in the water is spot on.

How did you glue the water on the plaster?

Always nice to read your step by steps after a hard day of work.


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Thanks Nico, I am also waiting for the conclusion of your latest dio!



Thanks...but time is not on my side last month...a lot to do beside making dioramas. But I will sone pick up where I left it

Greetz Nico
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 07:22 AM UTC
thanks Adisak -you make me think I have to visit your own work more often

Thank you Thomo, it's a very old trick I use since at least 25 years but this was the first time I used plaster for it. It's good for painting, but I would have get a better result with other stuff..

Thanks Scott!

.. And you too Juan, I really appreciated your suggestion, that was a pretty neat one

hey Kenneth friend, your own diorama is AWESOME


hey Nico, the resin is not actually glued on the plaster, I just pour the resin over the plaster if you see what I mean.
After that I mould my waves and glue them on the top of the resin base using unset resin as some glue.
Good luck for diorama working -Now I might have to stop a bit for the same reasons as you

Ah well here are a few preview pics taken near my window a coupla hours ago.
The seaguls and the painted sailor are in place, it just needs a base, several brush strokes here and there and good quality pics..



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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 07:27 AM UTC
Wow

yet again another master piece, stunning as usual, any chance you could email me over some pictures once your finished so I can create the On display this so richly deserves

cheers

Keith
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 08:28 AM UTC
love the dio and great detail on the birds
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 09:41 AM UTC
Gorgeous!
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:24 PM UTC
JBA, my friend ,
I'm speechless ! That is one AWESOME piece of diorama-building ! KUDOS ! FANTASTIC ! BRAVO ! You're right the first time around when you mentioned that I will get a real "kick" out of the way the birds are to be used . The way they are arranged around the perforated metal piece of the ship looks like "vultures" about to "devour" the sailor ! My verdict : + . Well done, my friend ! Looking forward to the final pictures in this "journey" of yours. Cheers !
Your Singapore Friend,
Kenneth.

P.S. I'm really honoured that you find my humble vignette "AWESOME" .
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 07:15 PM UTC
You're done already ? Sh... i missed a lot...but whow! what a finish!

The waves but more so the colouring of those is incredibly real, this subtile change of tone is awesome. Not even talking about the mastering of all those materials.
Great painting of the tiny gulls.

You are really doing some unique modeling, not one part is copied from someone else (i know you like that )
I think you are doing a great service to the modeling world and someday, after you published your book, you and this will be the reference work for water effects. (you don't like that part, but that's the case)

Salut
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:11 PM UTC
What a surprise! It's perfect! Who would have guess...
JB, you just keep stunning me with your work!
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:21 PM UTC
brilliant once again Jean! especially love your water effects and this one is really cool
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:05 AM UTC
Fantastic is all that needs to be said.

Totally fantastic.

A lot of talent here.

I can not wait to see what you do next Jean.

Bravo.

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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:08 AM UTC
jba, great diorama This one is one of my favorites based on the overall form and visual flow. Really nicely done.
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:31 AM UTC
Whoa! Here I'm gone a few weeks and suddenly you're done... Almost. Another masterpiece! Congratulations!

Cheers!
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:48 AM UTC
JBA, Once again my friend, you prove yourself a master of the arts. From mind, to hand, to finished piece. My congradulations !
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 03:46 AM UTC
Can only agree with everything thats been already said. Its stunning. I have only ever been interested in modelling military subjects, so very little else makes it through the interest radar. Those that do are usually stunning pieces that the craftmanship is the focus rather than the subject. This time its both. As far as Im concerned, you set the standard for water-themed dioramas/vignettes.
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 03:47 AM UTC
Can only agree with everything thats been already said. Its stunning. I have only ever been interested in modelling military subjects, so very little else makes it through the interest radar. Those that do are usually stunning pieces that the craftmanship is the focus rather than the subject. This time its both. As far as Im concerned, you set the standard for water-themed dioramas/vignettes.
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 04:08 AM UTC
Every time you amaze me more.
like all your work this is original, different and very well done.
I have only one doubt: the foam of the water? Is gel mixed with acrylic paint?
EscucharLeer fonéticamente

Saludos
Domi
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:10 AM UTC
hey Keith you kill me thanks for the compliment, but no I can't give it for an On Display, see Claude's suggestion below, to write a book! I have some friends who could help the day I decide to get this work done, so I really can't have another diorama captive at Kitmaker with no way of removing it the dayI want.

Now if Staff Jim wants to get into Kitmaker Publishing, I Give him my best pics and a bunch of flowers too!
After all those Nordic Edge books must bring money to some otherwise there wouldn't be 3 numbers already


Gracias Juan! really happy you like it

Stanley & Zaltar too!

They are sort of odd those seagulls hey Kenneth? happy you get the sort of slight threat of the whole my Singapour friend!
and yeah, your dio is awesome (again) it's the kind of stuff I thoroughly enjoy seeing in those forums -like the dios of Barbacanosa (below)

Thanks Claude for noticing "the subtle changes of tones". I really tried to use some desaturated colours though my pics below show a reasonably colourful diorama there I really emptied a pot of Vallejo grey doing it.
When I was 14 I spent 3 weeks in Bremen -Nord Deustchland, and didn't see the sun once. The sky was at all time of a very bright yellow grey aspect with very few shadows, reasonably hot and the air was unmoving, the colours appeared "compressed".
Though this diorama is supposed to be located in Syria, I wanted to sort of show this feeling.
.. and for the book, yep, if Alex helps

Thanks Andrzej, wish I was stunned by your own work but you're pretty rare these days

happy you like it Sonny!

Thanks Jeff! errr me too, I can't wait to sort the idea I will use next (not in a hurry though)

Scott now you can tell with the true colours (almost I should really change my camera) and thanks as always

yep Stefan, I don't really like to linger on small dioramas

thanks Bob my friend!

Ah Frank so you are a bit like me then, I find it very difficult to get interest in no-military subjects, but I hope to change that one day, you see there is no truth in military subjects Thanks for thinking I set some standard. really i am here for that, but maybe more for non-military military dioramas if you see what I mean.. water, it's just techniques, i hope one day to set a standard in the way I use the colours more like.
I have all the time in the world for this

yep Domi, as usual there is some layering between tinted resin and tinted (white AND grey in places) acrylic gel, thanks for your comments as usual and keep on doing those grey dioramas

Ok so what was the plan?

1/ Setting some colour scheme that would be different in that I would restrain my palette to a few tones and then work the heck about them, learn to desaturate

2/ using both the salt technique and the hairspray one

3/ not getting mad after painting 11 seagulls

4/ making progress in fig sculpting/pianting

Did I success?
Anyway, it's finished, big pics on my site here see you someday for something else though I wouldn't say what.
















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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:58 PM UTC
great scene and wonderful water treatment. my favourite part is the ripples in the sand which are very well captured. the figure turned out nice as well. thanks for sharing with such details. cheers, mh.
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 01:56 PM UTC
This seriously deserves it's own feature in a magazine or mook. Great job, absolutely fantastice!
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Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 - 07:19 PM UTC

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Thanks Andrzej, wish I was stunned by your own work but you're pretty rare these days


Breastfeeding takes time, you know...

Once again, perfect diorama JB!
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Posted: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 12:48 AM UTC
Beautiful composition and how to blog.

In AWE of your work and wish I could make time to put my hand to even trying just one of your techniques. There are so many techniques all rolled into one small diorama.

Stunning
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Posted: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 04:54 AM UTC
Hi JBA ,
Awesome finish to a Great "ride", my friend ! Thanks for sharing the process, Jean; I've personally learnt alot and applied some (the process of scratchbuilding seagulls, for example) to my current modelling project . Well, I'm glad that I was able to "sense" the implied "threat" that you intended in the placement of the seagulls, though in truth, I believe that seagulls actually behave this way in Nature . Kudos, again, my friend, and I will look forward to the next "JBA" adventure . Cheers !
Kenneth .

P.S. I will try out some of your colour modulation techniques when I'm painting the "water" portion of my wharf scene .