Hi Guys-
Now that I have this photo thing ironed out - I thought I'd post a few pics. I apologize for the poor quality - I took them with a borrowed SLR I didn't know how to use properly. I'm getting a digital camera on Monday - I hope to post a few more pictures then.
This is Tamiya's Stug IIIG with Friul tracks, painted with Tamiya acrylics.
Later-
Jeff
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StuH 42 Seeking Comments
jrnelson
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 01:32 PM UTC
HastyP
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 01:40 PM UTC
jrnelson
I think it looks great. Nice weathering and dirty look. Worn tracks, grease and grime. Very good job. Love the hanging cable as well!
Cheers
HastyP
I think it looks great. Nice weathering and dirty look. Worn tracks, grease and grime. Very good job. Love the hanging cable as well!
Cheers
HastyP
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 02:21 PM UTC
Looking quite good JR, there is something about the 10.5 StuH that is really menacing looking. Good work.
WeWillHold
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:16 PM UTC
Jeff--this looks good---can you describe your painting/weathering techiniques please (especially around the lower hull suspension area)? Looks well done.
Just a note, that cable looks like a prime suspect for fouling in the tracks, ---but just overall good looking effort Jeff.
Thanks.
Steve
Just a note, that cable looks like a prime suspect for fouling in the tracks, ---but just overall good looking effort Jeff.
Thanks.
Steve
jrnelson
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 04:00 PM UTC
The first thing I typically do after the entire tank is together - tracks and everything - is prime the whole thing with flat black (tTamiya acrylic). Once the entire tank is black, I go over that with a very light coat of the main color, allowing the black to show through (or at least darken the base color), in this case Tamiya dark yellow. I keep adding light coats of the base vehicle color, mainly towards the center of panels etc. In this case I left the suspension a darker shade of the base than the upper parts of the vehicle.
I guess most people gloss coat their models before applying a wash, but I don't. I mix a VERY thin potion of oil paint thinner and burnt siena (in this case), and apply this over the whole vehicle. It goes on heavier on the suspension parts. In order to get the different shades, I mix up different washes, all with subtle differences in shades. From essentially black - to light tan. I just kept going over the running gear with various washes until I was happy with the color. Make sure you let each wash dry before you apply the next one - otherwise it is hard to tell what the final outcome will be. The tank looks different when the oil paints are wet. In order to get a proper perspective as to what your wash did - you need to let it dry. At any one time I probably have 6 or 8 washes in jars - ready to go - depending on what I think the tank needs.
After all of the washes are done - I gloss coat, decal, flat coat, then use pastels to get that "final" dirty appearance. I generally don't do any dry brushing - if I do, I dry brush tools and accessories - not the whole tank.
All of the different colorations were done with pastels - The only colors I sprayed on the StuH with the airbrush were the flat black primer, and Tamiya dark yellow.
I'm glad you like it - I'm pretty pleased with the results. This was the first model I completed using pastels - so I was kinda experimenting along the way.
Jeff
Bye the way - I never even thought about the cable in the tracks You're right - that's asking for trouble. Funny what one person notices that the other doesn't .
I guess most people gloss coat their models before applying a wash, but I don't. I mix a VERY thin potion of oil paint thinner and burnt siena (in this case), and apply this over the whole vehicle. It goes on heavier on the suspension parts. In order to get the different shades, I mix up different washes, all with subtle differences in shades. From essentially black - to light tan. I just kept going over the running gear with various washes until I was happy with the color. Make sure you let each wash dry before you apply the next one - otherwise it is hard to tell what the final outcome will be. The tank looks different when the oil paints are wet. In order to get a proper perspective as to what your wash did - you need to let it dry. At any one time I probably have 6 or 8 washes in jars - ready to go - depending on what I think the tank needs.
After all of the washes are done - I gloss coat, decal, flat coat, then use pastels to get that "final" dirty appearance. I generally don't do any dry brushing - if I do, I dry brush tools and accessories - not the whole tank.
All of the different colorations were done with pastels - The only colors I sprayed on the StuH with the airbrush were the flat black primer, and Tamiya dark yellow.
I'm glad you like it - I'm pretty pleased with the results. This was the first model I completed using pastels - so I was kinda experimenting along the way.
Jeff
Bye the way - I never even thought about the cable in the tracks You're right - that's asking for trouble. Funny what one person notices that the other doesn't .
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 06:45 PM UTC
hi,
nice work, I like the painting and the weathering, the only things I think you can do better are the tracks colour, It's too uniform...
But this is only a my idea
You did a good work
nice work, I like the painting and the weathering, the only things I think you can do better are the tracks colour, It's too uniform...
But this is only a my idea
You did a good work
kbm
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:53 AM UTC
I am impressed. Could you explain in more detail your method for applying the pastels? It is hard to tell from the pictures but did you use them to apply a secondary (red brown?) camoflage color?
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:11 AM UTC
Looks quite good.
I have to agree with Steve, that cable's going to get caught inthe tracks and mess up somebody's day real bad!
Your spare wheels look like they could use a bit more weathering.
That bent up channel on the rear deck... I see that and ask myself, how did that happen?
I have to agree with Steve, that cable's going to get caught inthe tracks and mess up somebody's day real bad!
Your spare wheels look like they could use a bit more weathering.
That bent up channel on the rear deck... I see that and ask myself, how did that happen?
jrnelson
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 10:30 AM UTC
kbm-
Since this was the first model I used pastels on - I didn't really know what I was doing. Rather than grind up the chalk using sandpaper or the like - I just used an old make-up brush. (Don't tell the girlfriend - It wasn't "old" when I borrowed it:)) I just rubbed the brush directly on the chalk stick and then rubbed it on the model. Kind of like you would do if you were dry brushing with oils. It sort of "painted" the color on the surface. I like how subtle some of the discolorations are.
You are correct - that secondary brown color is pastel chalk. I was attempting to get a rather transparent "look" to the brown. I wanted the paint to look old - but not chipped off.
AJLaFleche-
"That bent up channel on the rear deck... I see that and ask myself, how did that happen?" LOL - I screwed up, that's how it happened:) I was trying to "bend" a spare strip of PE into the shape of the track retaining bar, for the back of the fighting compartment . It wasn't scored like the ones you get in Aber or Eduard sets.......... you see the result. The problem was that I had already carved the plastic one off the tank - lesson learned - fabricate your doo-dads BEFORE destroying anything:) I put it on anyway - but in hindsight, I'd leave it off if I had it to do again.
Guys - I appreciate your comments - I've learned alot
Jeff
Since this was the first model I used pastels on - I didn't really know what I was doing. Rather than grind up the chalk using sandpaper or the like - I just used an old make-up brush. (Don't tell the girlfriend - It wasn't "old" when I borrowed it:)) I just rubbed the brush directly on the chalk stick and then rubbed it on the model. Kind of like you would do if you were dry brushing with oils. It sort of "painted" the color on the surface. I like how subtle some of the discolorations are.
You are correct - that secondary brown color is pastel chalk. I was attempting to get a rather transparent "look" to the brown. I wanted the paint to look old - but not chipped off.
AJLaFleche-
"That bent up channel on the rear deck... I see that and ask myself, how did that happen?" LOL - I screwed up, that's how it happened:) I was trying to "bend" a spare strip of PE into the shape of the track retaining bar, for the back of the fighting compartment . It wasn't scored like the ones you get in Aber or Eduard sets.......... you see the result. The problem was that I had already carved the plastic one off the tank - lesson learned - fabricate your doo-dads BEFORE destroying anything:) I put it on anyway - but in hindsight, I'd leave it off if I had it to do again.
Guys - I appreciate your comments - I've learned alot
Jeff