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German Armored Trains in WWII
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 06:48 AM UTC
Dave Shick reviews "German Armored Trains in WWII," Volumes 1&2.



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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 08:18 AM UTC
Dave,

I've had these two books on my shelf for almost two decades, and your review has prompted me to dust them off for another read! As you say, you'd need very deep pockets to model a whole train, let alone a heck of a long shelf...

What you did not directly mention is that the books give full train consists for various dates in the war (along with known fates) for those who really do have the room for a full train diorama. And they offer pictures and info on various armoured cars that were fitted with steel wheels for rail patrols - truly a modeller's gold mine!

Thanks for the review and the trip to my own bookshelves!

Tom
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 08:43 AM UTC

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Dave,

I've had these two books on my shelf for almost two decades, and your review has prompted me to dust them off for another read! As you say, you'd need very deep pockets to model a whole train, let alone a heck of a long shelf...

What you did not directly mention is that the books give full train consists for various dates in the war (along with known fates) for those who really do have the room for a full train diorama. And they offer pictures and info on various armoured cars that were fitted with steel wheels for rail patrols - truly a modeller's gold mine!

Thanks for the review and the trip to my own bookshelves!

Tom


Not to mention, Tom, that even in 1/72 scale a one half of german BP-44 type armored train is almost one meter looonng.. with track sections. One friend of mine built Armageddon 1/72 scale kit in one week and have to say, it´s impressive.

BTW: only for modelers with nerves of steel. So much work on that kit.
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 08:38 AM UTC
I rrecently aquirred both of these book, Lots of cool pics and info, for those interested in this subject. milvehfan
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 08:37 PM UTC
Thanks for posting this Bill,I bought Osprey`s New Vanguard Book on armoured trains and was very dissapointed with the content within.
I would warn anyone about this if they (like me) are planning to do the Trumpeter 1/35 scale kits as the book only contains two images of a BP42,one is just an illustration,the other is so covered in camoflage that no detail is discernable.
Hope this helps my fellow modellers out there.
Now all i`ve got to do is find someone who sells these !.
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Posted: Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 03:48 AM UTC
Amazon has all of the above, and more
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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 06:15 AM UTC
Here is a little Youtube video featuring an armored train and a Panhard scoutcar,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSb0kHn_RU


It's pretty neat. They show how they converted the Panhard from road to rail.

Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 06:27 AM UTC
Thanks for sharing that. If I'm not mistaken, the artillery on the train was the sIG 33?

The only scenes missing from the newsreel are them stringing up the partisans and burning their villages....
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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 06:46 AM UTC
I'm not sure if this is one I came across doing the research for this, but there is one you tube that's an excert from a movie (Polish I think) called "The last armored train". I can't access this from work, I'll send the link tonight.
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Thanks for sharing that. If I'm not mistaken, the artillery on the train was the sIG 33?

The only scenes missing from the newsreel are them stringing up the partisans and burning their villages....


Bill, artillery on BP-42 was 10 cm F.H.14/19 (p) and 7,62 cm F.K. 295/1 (r). First one polish origin and second russian. I just got Waldemar Trojca´s book "Panzerzug BP42/BP44" book from Jadar-Hobby and it has lot of technical data and pics of BP42 plus 1/35 scale drawnings. Bad thing is, that text is polish only.
Other book I´m getting from Book-Depository in U.K is Wolfgang Sawodny´s "German armored trains 1904-1945" published in April this year.
What comes to that newsreel, I believe it´s made completely by german propaganda office.
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The only scenes missing from the newsreel are them stringing up the partisans and burning their villages....


Yes...the inconvenient truth not shown to the home audiences. But it's still an interesting film...nicht wahr?

Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 07:24 AM UTC

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I'm not sure if this is one I came across doing the research for this, but there is one you tube that's an excert from a movie (Polish I think) called "The last armored train". I can't access this from work, I'll send the link tonight.


Dave,
I think this is the link you were talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUTXcEdrQ10&feature=related


It's from a Polish war movie called "Jarzebina Czerwona". The destruction around the set was probably actual damage from WWII.

Jeff

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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 07:35 AM UTC

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Bill, artillery on BP-42 was 10 cm F.H.14/19 (p) and 7,62 cm F.K. 295/1 (r).

Thanks for clearing that up, Kimmo!

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What comes to that newsreel, I believe it´s made completely by german propaganda office.

You actually can see buildings burning in the distance in the last scene. They also call the partisans "bandits."


This is a modeling forum, but let's also make sure we remember the dead and never forget what went along with Blitzkrieg:
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