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New Tip Sheet: Washing/Drybrushing Armor
modelguy2
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Posted: Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 07:42 PM UTC
Sorry for the delayed responce I haven't checked this subject for quite a while! You want a gloss base for the wash because the wash will want to "spread" on a flat base but the gloss will keep it where you want it. Yes a drybrysh of tan works quite well on all armor colors!
kglack43
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Posted: Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 12:43 PM UTC
Super informative thread and article by Mike...thanks to all that shared...(now where are my pastels?)
oh yeah...one more thing....DITTO on the lack o' pics dude
oh yeah...one more thing....DITTO on the lack o' pics dude
modelmaniac
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:10 AM UTC
I agree to use tan. I've resently got back into the hobby and have built a few tanks now and used tan to drybrush. Except on my desert yellow Abrams I lightened the base colour for the drybrush.
P.S. did you know that if you mix tan with flat black you get dark green. This was perfect for my M-18 I just finished.
P.S. did you know that if you mix tan with flat black you get dark green. This was perfect for my M-18 I just finished.
FLASH
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Posted: Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 11:15 PM UTC
Mike,
nice article. I don't know if you have this problem or if anyone else might so, I will just throw it out there and see what happens. We don't have Future in Oz so I use an enamal gloss. After that, things can go pear shaped. Don't seem to be able to acheive a nice flat finish even after a tickle with dullcote.
Any ideas as to where I might be going wrong?
Cheers
Lee
nice article. I don't know if you have this problem or if anyone else might so, I will just throw it out there and see what happens. We don't have Future in Oz so I use an enamal gloss. After that, things can go pear shaped. Don't seem to be able to acheive a nice flat finish even after a tickle with dullcote.
Any ideas as to where I might be going wrong?
Cheers
Lee
rebelsoldier
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 06:31 AM UTC
thanks for the info, have saved and will use for a reference when i get to building, a real good clear explanation.........
reb
reb
SGT.Busche
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 07:28 AM UTC
The article discussed more about desert color schemes. What about woodland where there are mulitple colors? I do a lot of dioramas or I guess you could say actions scenes. So a lot of my weathering is mud or dirt and dust. Now for a still dio that I would like to do I do need to get some nice weathering on a couple of peices that I want to do. Do I just use a lighter color of the main? or a darker? Aircraft is a whole nother story!!
masstactical
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Posted: Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:13 PM UTC
Good article, Mike. A couple of questions. Should you dry brush over a gloss finish or a flat finish? Have you had any problems with mineral based washes eating into acrylic finishes?
Posted: Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:03 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
I'm no expert on any of these techniques so my obervation is on the pictures. The tank looks great but there's an imbalance between it and the tracks because the tracks are clean - if you know what I mean, the same could be said about the jeep, the tyres are a little dusty , but not the interior of the vehicle.
I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly but I hope you can see what I mean. For beginners like me, you need to give the product used and a brief description of exactly what it is and does, and who makes it. along with an idiots guide in how to apply it.
I have seen helpful articles before that just left me scratching my head because I've never actually heard of the product, used the product, didn't understand what it did or why it was being used.
I see absolutely great, precision models displayed, but they are so perfect that they are actually unreal, they match no real vehicle I've ever seen. That doesn't mean that they are not brilliant, just not real if you understand me - too perfect.
I understand that there are models built for cometeition and those build for dios and fun. I'd like to try and achieve the balance between the two and need simple instructions on how to achieve that.
Hope this makes sense.
Cheers
Al
I'm no expert on any of these techniques so my obervation is on the pictures. The tank looks great but there's an imbalance between it and the tracks because the tracks are clean - if you know what I mean, the same could be said about the jeep, the tyres are a little dusty , but not the interior of the vehicle.
I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly but I hope you can see what I mean. For beginners like me, you need to give the product used and a brief description of exactly what it is and does, and who makes it. along with an idiots guide in how to apply it.
I have seen helpful articles before that just left me scratching my head because I've never actually heard of the product, used the product, didn't understand what it did or why it was being used.
I see absolutely great, precision models displayed, but they are so perfect that they are actually unreal, they match no real vehicle I've ever seen. That doesn't mean that they are not brilliant, just not real if you understand me - too perfect.
I understand that there are models built for cometeition and those build for dios and fun. I'd like to try and achieve the balance between the two and need simple instructions on how to achieve that.
Hope this makes sense.
Cheers
Al
Teacher
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Posted: Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:35 PM UTC
I wish people would look at the date on things. Granted, Mike is still around, but if you're gonna ask a question about the article, at least make some kind of acknowledgment that it's an old article..... Since it was FOUR YEARS ago that the article was written? :-) :-) :-)
Vinnie
Vinnie
jimbrae
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Posted: Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:39 PM UTC
Ghosts in the machine?
Posted: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:04 AM UTC
Hi,
If this article is four years old, why has it been posted again? I didn't see or note that, neither did anyone else, but then why should I. I was simply replying to a post?
I hate being patronised.
Cheers
Al
If this article is four years old, why has it been posted again? I didn't see or note that, neither did anyone else, but then why should I. I was simply replying to a post?
I hate being patronised.
Cheers
Al
Teacher
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Posted: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:11 AM UTC
It wasn't posted again. :-)
Vinnie
Vinnie
Posted: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:33 AM UTC
Hi Vinnie,
Sorry for having a go at you - assumed this was a 'new post' but looking at the dates can see that Mike has activated an old article, and get your drift.
Cheers
Al
Sorry for having a go at you - assumed this was a 'new post' but looking at the dates can see that Mike has activated an old article, and get your drift.
Cheers
Al
rwscull
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Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 03:31 AM UTC
Thanks for the article Mike. I'm currently working on a tank and this helps answer many of my weathering questions.
SpeedySapper
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Posted: Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 08:31 AM UTC
Mike, My son and I have just started making military kits, and thought you're article was great advice. You mention future for glossy finish, but what is that?
Cheers, Speedy Sapper
Cheers, Speedy Sapper
Posted: Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 08:47 AM UTC
Nick,
This is a seriously old article before the current vogue for filters although it is still well written and useful, Try this:
http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
HTH
Craig
This is a seriously old article before the current vogue for filters although it is still well written and useful, Try this:
http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
HTH
Craig
milvehfan
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 08:26 PM UTC
Thanks for a good article.. I learn somthing new everyday.
fincho
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 03:01 PM UTC
Great information and a helpful guide for a newbie!!
Just wondered what dry brush colours you would recommend for the German ambush colour scheme and would these be done as the colours are put down or after the entire scheme is complete??
Again my thanks and top job!!
Just wondered what dry brush colours you would recommend for the German ambush colour scheme and would these be done as the colours are put down or after the entire scheme is complete??
Again my thanks and top job!!
jkoz259
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Posted: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 11:40 AM UTC
Great article and just wondered where do you buy Future. Is it available at the hardware store or a model shop. Just curious.
thanks,
jim kozuch
thanks,
jim kozuch
rebelsoldier
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 05:11 AM UTC
good article for those in the know on washes, and its well put together, no pun intended!
i'm a beginner with washes, have never done one. i don't know what the mixes are on washes, so i'd like an article for the beginner, sstarting from A to Z.
rebelsoldier
scouts out
i'm a beginner with washes, have never done one. i don't know what the mixes are on washes, so i'd like an article for the beginner, sstarting from A to Z.
rebelsoldier
scouts out