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Creating realistic rust for dummies
scoccia
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:22 AM UTC
I've seen that lot of people is interested in buying products who can reproduce realistic rust. Being a fan of the do it yourself (and possibly the cheapest is the best) this is what I do to create my own rust. With this method and an investment of a dollar (or a euro) or so, you can fulfill your rust needs for a lifetime...



Ingredients
a- some iron wool (can be found at supermarkets in the dish soaps dept)
b- a jar (whatever kind - glass, plastic, aluminium - doesn't matter)
c- tap water
d- something to stir with (an ice-cream or cocktail stick, a scrap piece of plastic or wool)
e- a bit of patience

How to
Step 1
Put some iron wool in the jar

Step 2
Fill the jar with tap water


The iron wool in the jar filled with tap water

Step 3
Put the jar somewhere outdoors (a sunny place helps to speed-up the process)

Step 4
After one day get the jar and stir its contents with the stick. Put the jar outdoors

Step 5
Repeat step 4 until stiring the content gives you pure rust dust (because you have to wait several days, use here your patience if needed...)


The (realistic!) rust is now ready

Step 6
The (realistic!) rust applied on your model

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The (realistic!) rust is now applied in four different ways to the model
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A: applied dry with a soft paint brush
B: applied with a paint brush dipped in white spirit
C: applied with a paint brush dipped in white spirit and then blended with another clean paint brush (also dipped in white spirit) to recreate a rust streak
D: applied on an area on which some white glue (tinned at 50% with water) was applied to recreate an heavy rusty effect. To give some more depth apply a light black wash over the rust once dried (not shown in the pic)

Happy modeling everybody!!!
MadMax
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:25 AM UTC
wow, thx nice idea!
JimF
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 05:02 AM UTC
Good tip, thanks for the excellent photos and commentary.
bracomadar
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:35 AM UTC
Just wondering, but would salt water work faster?
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:44 AM UTC
Great tip Scoccia. Thanks for sharing it.
scoccia
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:47 AM UTC
Yes it does but does not increase the speed dramatically. On top of that salt continues to hold and release humidity and it can happen that it spoils your finish...
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Marty
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:51 AM UTC
So how exactly do you get the dust out of the jar? Do you drain it and then dump it out to let it dry?
scoccia
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 07:14 AM UTC
Marty,
when the water is completely evaporated you'll get a solid "blob" of rust. Just stir it with a piece of wood or plastic and you get the rust powder...
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 07:33 AM UTC
Fabio - this is a nice helpful thread!

Thanks for sharing it!

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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 07:50 AM UTC
Ditto Fabio. Thanks for the tips.
boosahmer
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 08:56 AM UTC
Scoccia,
Nice tip. Grazie!
Jeepney
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:01 PM UTC
Thank you very much for the tip Fabio! Have you tried vinegar instead of water?
scoccia
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:02 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Have you tried vinegar instead of water?



Yes I did but it doesn't seem to me to speed up the process...
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Jeepney
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:17 PM UTC
And water won't stink up the whole house too

Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:57 PM UTC
Nice one thanks, gonna try that for sure.
Grasshopp12
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:33 AM UTC
Nice guide there! I liked how you showed how to get the different effects using the rust.
bracomadar
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:28 AM UTC
I set this up and put it outside yesterday. I already got rust!!! It's working faster than what I thought it would. :-) Thanks for the tip
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:27 PM UTC
Excellent tip with terrific instructions. I'm gonna try it - here in Arizona, the water should evaporate pretty darn fast, huh?

Thanks for sharing a great idea.
TankCarl
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:49 PM UTC
Fabio,great article.I will try it on Dummies like your topic title. :-)
Does anyone make resin crash test dummies? #:-)
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:54 PM UTC
As usual Fabio You are the greatest. I still think you need to compile a book. I'll be the first in line to buy it!!!!!!!!!!! (as long as you autograph it
scoccia
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:17 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I set this up and put it outside yesterday. I already got rust!!! It's working faster than what I thought it would. Thanks for the tip



Bracomadar if water does evaporate very fast, consider to add more in order to turn all of the iron wool properly in rust...

Thanks everybody for the kind words!!!
Ciao
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:49 PM UTC
yes but add salt to it it should give faster results
scoccia
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:04 PM UTC
Mikely,
as I said before, adding salt for sure speeds up the process, but it will remain in the rust dust. Fue to his hygroscopic caratheristics, if not properly sealed it will absorb and release humidity with the risk of spoiling your model finish. It's this the reason why I added to the ingredients... a little patience. Anyway what I pointed out is not a universal law, so anybody is free to modify/improving the recipe as he wishes...
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Jeepney
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2003 - 05:43 PM UTC
I tried looking for iron wool. All I saw was a lot of stainless steel wool with the tag lines: "Lasts longer. Won't rust!" The search goes on....
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 01:01 AM UTC
Jeepney,
try at an hardware store, they usually carry big packs of that...
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