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Polish T-55 ***wip***
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Posted: Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 08:58 PM UTC
Hi all,
I'm working on this.
There are,as you can see,a lot of work to do but I want to share pics with you to get some comment.
The idea is to depict a polish built t-55 used by JNA in balkan conflict.I don't list all the thing that I need to complete or to add cause it will be too long :-).
Please,comments and suggestions are welcome.
Kit is tamiya
Engine from CMK
Aber and Eduard Pe set

Regards
Ciro Riccio




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Posted: Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 09:08 PM UTC
E che si puo' dire?

Solo che una figata Ciro!!!

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 01:29 AM UTC
Grazie Mauro!
another little detail


Regards
Ciro
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 01:48 AM UTC
Ciro
Wow what awesome work on the already nice Tamiya kit. The added details are fantastic. I will be using this as a reference.
Just love it.

Cheers
Rob

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 01:54 AM UTC
Hi Rob,
Thank you,I're read your mail just now,thank you!It will be a great thing use your compartment on the other T-55 that I've in the stash.Just now I'm working on one that is equipped with cmk set...I'll wait until your master will be ready!So we start to share this info. ;-)
Best regards
Ciro
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi,
WOW, for me superb idea and fantastic model
Im waiting next steps in the build.
Best regards
Jarek
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 05:44 AM UTC
Jarek,
thank you!

Ciro
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 06:37 AM UTC
Ciro

A pair of questions...

In your photo I 've seen that probably you 'll going to put on your tank the rubber skirt. Are you going to depict a specific JNA t55 seen in a photo?

Which serbian camo are you going to use? I'm working on a serbian russian made t55 (...surely not as good as your...) and I dont' know yet what paint i should use to reproduce the Jna pale green

TIA

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 06:53 AM UTC
Hi Ciro,

This look like it is going to be something very special - great work so far!

I will follow this thread with interest.

Cheers
Gary
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 06:59 AM UTC
You need to drill a vent into the hull on the right just behind the turret. Check your references. All T-55 hulls had this.
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 08:17 AM UTC
Try agani with replies,I've some problem with pc
Mauro,you mean this?!

Stripe looks separated from the rubber skirt cause I want to depict it damaged,there are holes for the joints over the stripes,rubber skirts and on the fenders of the tank,I know they aren't so visible but they are there :-)
Colour,I have written,that probably I'll get tamiya nato green+ another colour to depict JNA green but.....I think that this is a relative problem cause with oils-pigments-washes ecc the colours change.
Gary
Thank you!
Kevin
I know about the exhaust ventilation at the bottom of the turret,it's still a wip,many things that you can see over the tank are not glued yet,it needs more work to be correct.Turret needs a lot of details like the engine deck,fenders,ecc ecc....thank you however for the advice.

Regards
Ciro
Ps
Mauro,if you need something let me know....maybe I can help you,also in italian ;-) I live in Napoli ;-)
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 08:48 AM UTC

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You need to drill a vent into the hull on the right just behind the turret. Check your references. All T-55 hulls had this.





Kevin, actually not all the T55s have this vent. This a croat (ex JNA) polish made T55. It doesnt'have those vent. To be exact the vent is smaller than usual and is hidden by the turret

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Ps
Mauro,if you need something let me know....maybe I can help you,also in italian ;-) I live in Napoli ;-)



Thanks a lot Ciro . You too, if you need something let me know. I 'll be glad to help you
Now i'm trying to reproduce this tank


I still have alot of work to do


Regards

Grazie ancora Ciro ciao e a presto
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 09:04 AM UTC
Something don't work on the site,I'm not so able to write e reply....
Little confusion about the exhaust ventilation.I mean the one that is at the bottom of turret near the main gun.a feature of all T-55
As Mauro says not all the T-55 have the exhaust on the engine deck.Polish built 55 haven't it and the layout of the hatches is different as you can see.So Mauro is right on this point.
Colour....Mauro....maybe a khaki drab+flesh(or sand or white)could help you better than the nato green,
As reference I use some book and images from the net but I also have some good photos on WWP book for T-55,here colours appear "more green" and there are various ways of camo aver these tanks.
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Ciro
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 09:57 AM UTC
Yes, I know

Sometime in the pics they look more gray...



...and sometime more green...



I don't know if it depends on the pics or on different kind of the original pint

Probably i'll do a base coat whit Lifecolor RLM 02 and then i'll change with filters and washing

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 10:09 AM UTC
Well you need to consider the light condition and the climatic conditions,in a sunny day colours appear bright while in a cloudy day the could be more dark.
Also as in your 2nd pictures the tank looks also dusty,so weathering change much the appeal of a tank even in the same day.
I think you know about our ariete or dardo or centauro in exercises in Sardegna or in another dusty condition.Do you have in mind clean tank and dirty one?I think you get the point.
If you're trying do depict a specific tank in a specific condition(read as timeframe) you need to try to replicate that colour and don't mind about other photos even if they are of the same subject.
On the other hand JNA green was a russian green and operative tanks,at that time, were re-painted over this base.
Just my 2cents
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Ciro
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:47 AM UTC

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If you're trying do depict a specific tank in a specific condition(read as timeframe) you need to try to replicate that colour and don't mind about other photos even if they are of the same subject.



Yeah, that's right, I understood

I've begun to be a plastic modeller a long long time ago and I did just aircraft. About 10 years ago I stopped doing that hobby. When I've started over (about one year ago) I switched to Tanks and SF models. So, being an aircraft modeller in the past , I used to follow just FSC charts...
I know...painting tanks it's diifferent because you can't use just Federal standard....

So far...Thanks a lot for your kindly tips Ciro, surely I'll try it

Cheers
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 03:30 PM UTC
Hi guys,
Been following this thread and find it interesting. You seem to be concerned too much about color. Take this little test. Pick a walk-around of any tank. You will notice that the same camera shooting the same tank at essentially the same time and conditions, results in a different hue of green just by changing the angle relative to the lighting. You really can't rely on photographs to deliver reliable color information. As you have already noted, weathering, dust and available light can make a big difference in the apparent color. If you had access to the tank you are modeling, the problem would be solved. Otherwise, its more art than science. Sorry to intrude, take this for what its worth.
Watching your excellent build,

James
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2010 - 07:07 PM UTC
James,
you get exactly my point,no other to add!
Mauro,
glad to be of help,let me know if I can help you in some way

Regards
Ciro
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Posted: Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 09:57 AM UTC
Hi all,
I use this topic to ask if someone has a good walkaround or links photos or other about the btu-55 dozer blade.
I've googled for it with no much luck.
I've on the way cmk Btu and I would to know about accurancy and some comments about the build.I've also downloaded instructions from cmk e-shop-Please write here your thought....and also suggestions or corrections for the model on the top of the topic.
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Ciro
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Posted: Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 08:11 PM UTC
Hi Ciro

Unfortunatly I've found just this link

http://www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/base55_1r.asp

Did you try to serch using the russian alphabet?

Try to put БТУ-55

good luck

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Posted: Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 11:06 PM UTC
Thanks Mauro,it's a start....I hope to get more infos and photos...
if someone has other hints....let me know
Regards
Ciro
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 10:19 PM UTC
well...not much....I'm waiting a book so I've done only few things on the hull,Turret is nearly done.
Comments are welcome.
Ciro


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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 02:44 AM UTC
Great Build Ciro
As usual
Waiting for the paint job
Cheers
Seb
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 02:54 AM UTC
I'm saving all your pics Ciro...I'm going to usw it as a reference for my next t55
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 04:17 AM UTC
looking fantastic Ciro. I to will use them as ref when building my T-55's

Email coming soon bro.

Ciao
Rob
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