Your welcome. Almost finished, some additional soil to add, move a figure and a final check for anything I missed off the gun
. Cheers
Al
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Art of the Battlefield (artillery)
AlanL
Joined: August 12, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 11:49 PM UTC
Hi Zon,
Your welcome. Almost finished, some additional soil to add, move a figure and a final check for anything I missed off the gun .
Cheers
Al
Your welcome. Almost finished, some additional soil to add, move a figure and a final check for anything I missed off the gun
. Cheers
Al
AlanL
Joined: August 12, 2005
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 02:46 AM UTC
Hi folks,
I completed the build by adding parts A41, B29, B28 which I'd missed along the way plus the tow rope.
Figs and ammo repositioned and some soil added to the spade area, so I'll call this one done.
Cheers
Al
Cheers
Al
I completed the build by adding parts A41, B29, B28 which I'd missed along the way plus the tow rope.
Figs and ammo repositioned and some soil added to the spade area, so I'll call this one done.
Cheers
Al
Cheers
Al
heliman
Joined: June 14, 2010
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 01:48 PM UTC
I'm nearly done w/ my MLRS....this kit has REALLY pushed my patience. The rocket pod assembly was a nightmare to build, nothing wanted to fit right.
I found a few pics on primeportal that showed a different type of "handrail" around the commanders hatch, so w/ some fine solder, I built it!!! This was the only part that went smoothly. After I add the mirrors, and dullcoat, I call it done.
here's my progress :
I also replaced the tie downs on the cab roof w/ ones from a stryker set...much nicer!
Any comments welcome!
I found a few pics on primeportal that showed a different type of "handrail" around the commanders hatch, so w/ some fine solder, I built it!!! This was the only part that went smoothly. After I add the mirrors, and dullcoat, I call it done.
here's my progress :
I also replaced the tie downs on the cab roof w/ ones from a stryker set...much nicer!
Any comments welcome!
SGTJKJ
#041
Joined: July 20, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 09:10 AM UTC
Great looking MLRS! Nice subtle weathering and details on the cab.
I can see direct fire artillery is OK for this campaign. Would AA artillery also be OK for this campaign?
I am thinking of doing a 20mm Flak or Flak vierling.
I can see direct fire artillery is OK for this campaign. Would AA artillery also be OK for this campaign?
I am thinking of doing a 20mm Flak or Flak vierling.
zontar
Joined: August 27, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 09:44 AM UTC
Alan: nice finish. Looks great.
Jeff: good job on the MLRS.
Happy Modelling, -zon
Jeff: good job on the MLRS.
Happy Modelling, -zon
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 04:37 PM UTC
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Great looking MLRS! Nice subtle weathering and details on the cab.
I can see direct fire artillery is OK for this campaign. Would AA artillery also be OK for this campaign?
I am thinking of doing a 20mm Flak or Flak vierling.
@ Alan and Jeff, great job and nice finish there guys
@Jasper as far as the above goes that was asked before the campaign started and was rejected as not being of a large enough caliber, but would love to see what else you can come up with to add to the campaign
As far as my build goes I have added a 2nd coat of the 2nd camo color hopefully I will get the 3rd color on tomorrow
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 03:05 AM UTC
Thanks for the feedback, Sal. My alternative is the 88mm Flak, so that should work.
More to follow
More to follow
AlanL
Joined: August 12, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 04:53 AM UTC
Hi Zon and Sal,
Thanks, it was an interesting build. I had planned to build the 4.5in Howitzer and depending on time scale might fit that in too but for now I need to get back to my Churchill build that has slipped way behind
Cheers
Al
Keep up the great work folks.
Thanks, it was an interesting build. I had planned to build the 4.5in Howitzer and depending on time scale might fit that in too but for now I need to get back to my Churchill build that has slipped way behind
Cheers
Al
Keep up the great work folks.
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 02:09 AM UTC
Alan Your Dio turned out great I'm gonna have to review your method for the track when I get around to doing mine for the military railroad campaing
Here is the progress on the Karl Morser 3 rd camo color added
The brown turned out a little darker than I would have liked but thats no big deal
Now on to some of the brush painting
Here is the progress on the Karl Morser 3 rd camo color added
The brown turned out a little darker than I would have liked but thats no big deal
Now on to some of the brush painting
AlanL
Joined: August 12, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 05:40 AM UTC
Hi Sal,
Thanks. Your beast is coming along really well, great prpogress.
Al
Thanks. Your beast is coming along really well, great prpogress.
Al
Nito74
Joined: March 04, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 08:46 AM UTC
I started the Wespe this afternoon,
After the photo I worked on the suspension, idler wheels, road wheels.
Also started checking the Aber PE instruction sheet... I won't complain about the Dragon instructions no more...
I am glad I didn't pick the CMK Resin interior for this kit, the Wespe interior is very small, cramped , most of the detailed PE won't be seen, which is too bad..why did I even got it
I'll keep you posted.
RIP Gary Speed --
After the photo I worked on the suspension, idler wheels, road wheels.
Also started checking the Aber PE instruction sheet... I won't complain about the Dragon instructions no more...
I am glad I didn't pick the CMK Resin interior for this kit, the Wespe interior is very small, cramped , most of the detailed PE won't be seen, which is too bad..why did I even got it
I'll keep you posted.
RIP Gary Speed --
heliman
Joined: June 14, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 11:52 AM UTC
Sal- thats coming along great! Lokks like a very time consuming kit.
I found a few minor obvious details I wanted to add, and helped hide my poor tracks! Most of the pics showed mudflaps, so I chose blue painters tape, and made some! The "brackets are plastic angle stock, and the bolts were from my M88 conversion. I 'm happy how it turned out.
Heres the finished pics..
Jeff
I found a few minor obvious details I wanted to add, and helped hide my poor tracks! Most of the pics showed mudflaps, so I chose blue painters tape, and made some! The "brackets are plastic angle stock, and the bolts were from my M88 conversion. I 'm happy how it turned out.
Heres the finished pics..
Jeff
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 02:17 PM UTC
Nice build, Jeff. It looks great. The Mudflaps came out very well.
Massive build, Sal. Looking forward to see more. If you want background info and reference pictures I can really recommend the Militaria book on the subject. See it HERE
I have decided to go for the Tamiya 75mm PAK for this campaign. Work has already started, so more to come soon.
Massive build, Sal. Looking forward to see more. If you want background info and reference pictures I can really recommend the Militaria book on the subject. See it HERE
I have decided to go for the Tamiya 75mm PAK for this campaign. Work has already started, so more to come soon.
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 05:57 PM UTC
@ John welcome to the party 
@Jeff, the mud flaps look good, but I think they might need another coat of paint looks like some of the blue is showing through
@Jasper thanks for the link but I did find a lot of info on line about the beast. Nice little kit there are you gonna do the figures too
I made some progress on the beast, almost ready to spray it with a coat of futures, but the occupy Wall Streeters are keeping me on overtime so that might not get done until Tuesday
@Jeff, the mud flaps look good, but I think they might need another coat of paint looks like some of the blue is showing through
@Jasper thanks for the link but I did find a lot of info on line about the beast. Nice little kit there are you gonna do the figures too
I made some progress on the beast, almost ready to spray it with a coat of futures, but the occupy Wall Streeters are keeping me on overtime so that might not get done until Tuesday
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Friday, December 02, 2011 - 11:08 AM UTC
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@Jasper thanks for the link but I did find a lot of info on line about the beast. Nice little kit there are you gonna do the figures too
I am considering the figures. I have ordered some Warrior resin heads and might use some Dragon weapons and equipment. Could be a fun little project.
meaty_hellhound
Joined: July 23, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2011 - 08:48 PM UTC
hi everyone,
i'd like to enlist my Stryker MGS 1128 in the campaign but i've done an oop-sey...
... i went and started building the hull and undercarriage for the last two weekends but i haven't taken the needed photo with newspaper to show it's not an old build.
i just posted my latest build, a civilian UAZ-452 van, in the russian armour forum which kind of indicts what i have been working on prior to the Stryker.
just curious if i could enlist if the pic/newspaper proof showed the kit's hull started. totally understand if this would not be fair, it's just that the newspaper thing is kind of new to me and i didn't read the criteria properly.
either way i've enjoyed following everyone efforts. cheers, bd.
i'd like to enlist my Stryker MGS 1128 in the campaign but i've done an oop-sey...
... i went and started building the hull and undercarriage for the last two weekends but i haven't taken the needed photo with newspaper to show it's not an old build.
i just posted my latest build, a civilian UAZ-452 van, in the russian armour forum which kind of indicts what i have been working on prior to the Stryker.
just curious if i could enlist if the pic/newspaper proof showed the kit's hull started. totally understand if this would not be fair, it's just that the newspaper thing is kind of new to me and i didn't read the criteria properly.
either way i've enjoyed following everyone efforts. cheers, bd.
ArtyG37B
Joined: August 13, 2009
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 04:29 AM UTC
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i'd like to enlist my Stryker MGS 1128 in the campaign
Much as i like the MGS and I'm not in charge of this campaign (the decision is his), i'm inclined to say no. the MGS is a direct fire weapon system (tank replacement) and not artillery. Like i said not my decision.
maybe a build log with it?
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Texti'd like to enlist my Stryker MGS 1128 in the campaign
Much as i like the MGS and I'm not in charge of this campaign (the decision is his), i'm inclined to say no. the MGS is a direct fire weapon system (tank replacement) and not artillery. Like i said not my decision.
maybe a build log with it?
Bruce, I am not a artillery expert by any means and am only the leader here by default
But according to this sitehttp://www.military-today.com/index.htm
That vehicle is listed under the artillery category, but under the sub title of Tank Destroyers, which is not what I think the original campaign leader was looking for.
Is there anyone else out there that knows more about this vehicle that could weigh in on this discussion. By the way for those that dont know Bruce his work is outstanding
GaryKato
Joined: December 06, 2004
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:40 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted Texti'd like to enlist my Stryker MGS 1128 in the campaign
Much as i like the MGS and I'm not in charge of this campaign (the decision is his), i'm inclined to say no. the MGS is a direct fire weapon system (tank replacement) and not artillery. Like i said not my decision.
maybe a build log with it?
Bruce, I am not a artillery expert by any means and am only the leader here by default
http://www.military-today.com/index.htm
That vehicle is listed under the artillery category, but under the sub title of Tank Destroyers, which is not what I think the original campaign leader was looking for.
By the way for those that dont know Bruce his work is outstanding
I point out that the 17pdr and PAK 40 are also direct fire weapons. If someone is doing an 88mm FLAK xx, then that too is direct fire. Possibly my leIG18 is also a direct fire weapon.
meaty_hellhound
Joined: July 23, 2010
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 10:13 AM UTC
hi everyone,
i thought i'd throw in my MGS because it is used as a mobile artillery piece from my readings online and Wings & Wheels publication no 027.
it is assigned to rifle companies and is used in attacks as support for rifle platoons to take out bunkers, create breaches in structures and pin down enemy troops.
in defensive roles it has limited anti-armour abilities where it can take out recon vehicles, light tanks, support vehicles and old generation battle tanks.
i guess my take on this was it is a big gun on wheels. not a tank but not simple artillery piece either. i can see the spirit of this campaign is best represented by traditional large gun subjects so i leave it to masses whether it fits in with what the campaign is all about. either way it is totally cool and i don't want to have anyone feel i'm pushing the envelope if it won't look right in the campaign gallery amongst everyone's entries.
and i don't feel too comfortable that i didn't meet the pic/newspaper requirement so maybe i'll just thank everyone for their input and keep watching the campaign's progress. cheers, bd.
i thought i'd throw in my MGS because it is used as a mobile artillery piece from my readings online and Wings & Wheels publication no 027.
it is assigned to rifle companies and is used in attacks as support for rifle platoons to take out bunkers, create breaches in structures and pin down enemy troops.
in defensive roles it has limited anti-armour abilities where it can take out recon vehicles, light tanks, support vehicles and old generation battle tanks.
i guess my take on this was it is a big gun on wheels. not a tank but not simple artillery piece either. i can see the spirit of this campaign is best represented by traditional large gun subjects so i leave it to masses whether it fits in with what the campaign is all about. either way it is totally cool and i don't want to have anyone feel i'm pushing the envelope if it won't look right in the campaign gallery amongst everyone's entries.
and i don't feel too comfortable that i didn't meet the pic/newspaper requirement so maybe i'll just thank everyone for their input and keep watching the campaign's progress. cheers, bd.
WARDUKWNZ
Joined: June 01, 2011
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 10:47 AM UTC
Hey all .. I am in agreement with Meaty on this one .. the MGS is a gun system designed to take the rolls of mortars, light field guns and middle weight anti tank guns ..it still has a 105mm gun on its roof and in the modern world we have many weapons which come under one class but do many jobs .. this is one of them .. but when you think about it ,,someone could do a model of a 81mm mortar and put that in this campaign ..its still artillery at the end of the day and there's one other thing do ,,I want to see what Bruce can do with a MGS
Phill
Phill
ArtyG37B
Joined: August 13, 2009
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:05 PM UTC
sorry if i upset anyone. as a gunner i didn't see it as artillery because it would have been crewed by "blackhatters" or even infanteers.
No Matter what though i am looking forward to seeing it.
No Matter what though i am looking forward to seeing it.
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:47 PM UTC
Thanks guys for weighing in on Bruces proposed build. I have done some additional research myself and have found the following:
While the MGS 1128 is listed as an anti-tank weapon it would not be very effective against many modern tanks and is therefore used more as an infantry support weapon. Additionally, Wikipedia list anti-tank weapons under its listing of Field Artillery. So I say Bruce you mission is accepted and we are all looking forward to what you come up with here
and have found the following:While the MGS 1128 is listed as an anti-tank weapon it would not be very effective against many modern tanks and is therefore used more as an infantry support weapon. Additionally, Wikipedia list anti-tank weapons under its listing of Field Artillery. So I say Bruce you mission is accepted and we are all looking forward to what you come up with here
meaty_hellhound
Joined: July 23, 2010
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 09:38 PM UTC
thanks for the invite into the campaign. i hope i can do some justice to the MGS. Phil is correct to mention mortar carriers as the MGS is assigned right next to the Stryker Mortar variant in the Rifle Platoon and both work in a support role as artillery pieces are designed for.
here's my model with yesterday's cnn webpage shown with the two halves of the hull glued together (why do instructions leave this last? i always start with this step) and the axles attached:
thanks again to everyone for the discussion as this too helps me learn more about my hobby. cheers, bd.
here's my model with yesterday's cnn webpage shown with the two halves of the hull glued together (why do instructions leave this last? i always start with this step) and the axles attached:
thanks again to everyone for the discussion as this too helps me learn more about my hobby. cheers, bd.
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 05:11 AM UTC
Looks good so far. Bruce. Looking forward to see more when you really start getting your teeth into it.
I have been making some progress myself. Since the Kitmaker network was down for some time I did not post my previous progress so here is a weeks worth of progress.
I made a major and amateur mistake. I cannot believe I did it, but no denying it
Some of the glue ran into the "moveable" sliding parts of the gun. No big problem except for the fact that the gun was in full recoil when I assembled it so it set in that position.
Now I have to figure out a diorama with either a shooting gun or a destroyed gun left behind by retreating troops. I think I will go for a shooting gun but not sure yet.
More to follow
I have been making some progress myself. Since the Kitmaker network was down for some time I did not post my previous progress so here is a weeks worth of progress.
I made a major and amateur mistake. I cannot believe I did it, but no denying it
Some of the glue ran into the "moveable" sliding parts of the gun. No big problem except for the fact that the gun was in full recoil when I assembled it so it set in that position.
Now I have to figure out a diorama with either a shooting gun or a destroyed gun left behind by retreating troops. I think I will go for a shooting gun but not sure yet.
More to follow
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