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Panther WIP
dbudd
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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 01:31 PM UTC
I'm getting dangerously close to actually finishing something and nobody is more shocked than me. I'm going to do a full build article when I'm done, but thought I'd put up some WIP shots to hopefully get some inspiration to finish.



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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 11:09 PM UTC
Couple of issues. How did the pallet end up proped on the tank? And, what are the tracks doing opposite of the tank? You definately need to weather the tank with some rubble or brick dust. Other than that, a good quality build and paint job.
dbudd
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 01:47 AM UTC
Someone picked the pallet up and put there to move it out of the their path. As for the tracks they where left there as a previous effort to fix a Tiger that was parked there. Also, if the pather was parked there after all the bombing stopped there would be no rubble on it. If you look at the Panzerwreck series everything I did is inline with pictures of abandoned panthers.
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 02:29 AM UTC
nice scene,rubble looks real convincing,also like your finish on the big cat.Looking foward to see your wip shots.
exer
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 08:22 AM UTC

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I'm getting dangerously close to actually finishing something and nobody is more shocked than me.



Always a shock when that happens.

I like it. The finish on the Panther is good and the rubble is well done. The only criticism I have is that with the Tank at the back of the base and partly overhanging it the whole thing looks unbalanced.
I also have a thing about parallel lines in Dioramas and vignettes so I would place the panther diagonally but maybe that's just me

dbudd
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 09:08 AM UTC
Thanks, I agree and normally set things up diagonally as well. The tank is hanging over because I miscalculated and put the rubble to far into the street and the tank wouldn't sit flat and I was to far along not to use the base.
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 12:24 AM UTC
Very nice weathering on the panther and rubble on the street.
As already mentioned, the panther hanging off one and of the base looks very unusual, as does the different green used on the wheels, as compared to the base green on the rest of the tank. The few brown wheels also stand out some. The story is really apparent ... what have the run of thrown tracks to do with this panther?
In my opinion, your work is quite good ... but planning lets it down some. Something to learn from?
dbudd
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 05:10 AM UTC
The paint I used to dry brush the wheels didn't match the base coat green as well as I had planned. So that accounts for the color difference. The red wheels came with the kit they are replacement for the normal wheels that got damaged.


The run of tiger tracks don't have anything to do with the panther. They are just something that was left there from an attempt to fix a tiger. It is just the debris of war.
cach7
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 05:26 AM UTC
Dave, i think it looks great. Just like mentioned i would angle the tank. Maybe so the right track is even with the light pole. As far as the thrown track, i think it looks good. I like how certain sections are buried. Nice idea.
exer
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 09:06 AM UTC
If you can do it with much hassle then I would try and remove the rubble so that the tank sits more on the base.

About the discarded tracks- you know why they are there because you have the back story to this vignette in your head but I think other people will keep asking.
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 11:07 AM UTC
I REALLY like the rubble and ground work. I like the Panther a lot as well. The one thing I don't care for is the red splotches on the front and turret side. ( I guess exposed primer for hits?)
I agree with the others about the position of the tank. As Pat said, if it's not too much of a hassle, chisel some of the rubble out of the way and move the tank more toward the middle. I know you probably don't want to do that because that would mess up the positioning of the accessories/details next to the tank. I don't blame you becasue they look real good.
Lastly, (and I know you are probably getting peeved about hearing it) the Tiger track is distracting and confusing. What if you put a sign propped up on the lampost saying "Feldwerkstatt." (Is that right? What is german for field repair shop?)

Thanks for sharing your work.
Bill.
dbudd
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 11:53 AM UTC
thanks for the input, but the tank is screwed to the base and cannot be removed. I fixed it permanently to remove the temptation of trying to make modifications. I've gotten myself into trouble and ruined some things trying to make last minute changes. At some point it is what it is and you just learn from the experience.

It is much clearer once you see the fine details that there where repairs going on at the site. There are many tools, gears, cans of oil,barrel cleaning rods etc.laying around. These items cannot be seen clearly in the two pictures I've posted. Once I'm finished I will take detailed shots (I have a really good camera now) and do a write up.
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Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 01:18 PM UTC
'It is just the debris of war." Everything about the ground, with debris and utensils, are meticulously regarded, and harmoniously colored, in a masterful way. The red-brown road wheels exclaim the hulking attitude of indomitability as this freshly invigorated panzer steps forth to dispatch whatever might appear next. Screw the diagonal balance theory--Germans are straight and square. War is absurd. Do not try to fit it into an aesthetic ideal. This piece shows fine craftsmanship. The black horizontal band running around the base, just below the ground level, is a good punctuation, for the ruthless atmosphere above.
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Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 01:35 PM UTC
well said Heine>
dbudd
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Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 02:48 PM UTC

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'It is just the debris of war." Everything about the ground, with debris and utensils, are meticulously regarded, and harmoniously colored, in a masterful way. The red-brown road wheels exclaim the hulking attitude of indomitability as this freshly invigorated panzer steps forth to dispatch whatever might appear next. Screw the diagonal balance theory--Germans are straight and square. War is absurd. Do not try to fit it into an aesthetic ideal. This piece shows fine craftsmanship. The black horizontal band running around the base, just below the ground level, is a good punctuation, for the ruthless atmosphere above.




Whoa ... that is literally verbatim what I was going for! Thanks for the feedback. I've actually finished and just have the two figures to paint.
HEINE-07
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Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 05:50 PM UTC
Your site, Themodelarmory.com, shows a budding master of the incongruous. You undoubtedly follow the work of JBA, and Kaisserine (look at their topics started). There are subtleties of atmosphere showing up here and there, on this network. The Panther herein is a great example of this. The drab detail of the chalky bricks, rimmed with old mortar, even, serves to point back to a steel despot, lurking poignantly, not quite yet derelict. The steel of your Panther, herein, radiates a soul, because of something you did with the paint...something which would never work when painting ground-work, nor even when painting zimmerit.

Please elaborate on the painting of steel.
dbudd
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Posted: Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 11:52 AM UTC
I finally finished this, write up coming soon.

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