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At Last - A 'Wirbelwind' from DML
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 04:42 AM UTC
Considering just how many Pz IVs Dragon Models have done over the years, this one is a surprising omission - until now, The ''Wirbelwind'' in 1/35th scale. CAD Images of this new announcement can be seen:



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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!

alanmac
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 04:56 AM UTC

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Considering just how many Pz IVs Dragon Models have done over the years, this one is a surprising omission - until now, The ''Wirbelwind'' in 1/35th scale. CAD Images of this new announcement can be seen:
Thanks!




I guess you never saw this one then

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/4477

released some time ago .
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:07 AM UTC
yes not much difference that i can see, except for the bold on armour, i brought the previous one, seems a bit silly to buy this one as well, might have to source out zimmerit for the previous version
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:54 AM UTC
I have to admit I am tempted by this one despite my wife telling me otherwise, and I suspect the price may deter me. In Jim's defence he has dealt with so many news stories it is easy to forget one, and I know I missed or forgot about the one you linked to Alan.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 07:52 AM UTC
I wonder if I can now hope for the Ostwind kit 6550 they announced with the Wirbelwind kit 6540 will actually be delivered. Reviews have kept me away from the Trumpeter Ostwind.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 08:06 AM UTC
i wonder if and when dragon will release either the bridge layer version, or just the plain Ausf A, instead of another version of one already out
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 09:55 AM UTC
Wasn't the previous model based on the H hull as this one is based on the G hull from the early production of it?

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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 12:43 PM UTC

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I wonder if I can now hope for the Ostwind kit 6550 they announced with the Wirbelwind kit 6540 will actually be delivered. Reviews have kept me away from the Trumpeter Ostwind.



You and me both brother!

Though I thought 4-5times about getting a Trumpy Ostwind from HLj when they were throwing them out the door for about $20, those and the 'fatally flawed' T-62s that were going for about $16 ea!!
Passed on both and now wish I had not.

Tom Cockle over on ML keeps saying that the Ostwind is one the way. One of my fave vehicles from back in the ancient Monogram-Shep Paine Dio booklet days.

Waiting is..

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 01:16 PM UTC
As much as I like this, I'd actually be more interested in the field ambulance in the background *hint hint*
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 02:47 PM UTC
how is this any different than the other Wirbelwinds on the market? man dragon gets a D- for creativity....
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 09:22 PM UTC
I did an Ostwind from Trumpeter recently, had to correct the hull because the one from the kit is not corresponding to any versions GHJ - just a mix of everything ;(
and of course this problem with undersizing upper hull - I decided to leave it like it is, just trained myself in making zimmerit and interesting camo from Nuts and Bolts book.

Looking forward to Dragons Ostwind since it will have a production turret, and not a prototype turret as Trumpeters.

For those who complains about Dragon - this new Wirbelwind features a different hull and this is important for people who want to make an accurate model according to reference pictures , and not just nicely painted "something like a WWII vehicle". The previosly avaible version of Wirbelwind was on late hull and there not that many reference pictures that have later hull without zimm, so you had to do a zimm or spend some xtra cash for cavalier zimm.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 10:01 PM UTC
Well, for now this is the early G variant with the visibility clapper-blocks on the sides. No zimmerit ist needed there.
But why donīt they release instead of that one a late G with zimmerit ?
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 10:45 PM UTC
that would be a cyber-hobby white series release

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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:45 AM UTC

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i wonder if and when dragon will release either the bridge layer version?


Given how well the Trumpeter version sold, I wouldn't hold your breath. It's an expensive niche product.
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 03:02 PM UTC
Wait for it ... Dragon or CH will come out soon with another Pz IV G, too, with the bolt-on armour. Their recent "Pz IV G Apr-May 1943 Production" only has the welded-on armour, if I recall?
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 06:01 PM UTC

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As much as I like this, I'd actually be more interested in the field ambulance in the background *hint hint*



Would have to agree here 100%
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Posted: Monday, March 07, 2011 - 08:56 AM UTC
For those wondering about the first Wirbelwind Dragon released, I did a in box review/discussion HERE

still have to come up with zimmerit... but thats not too hard.

Andy
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