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Yugoslavian Green color
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 12:56 PM UTC
Green color for yugoslavian vehicles (or non repainted vehicles of ex.yugoslavian countrys) is revell's 362 or Humbrol 168 Which represents the Yugoslavian SMB color,or vallejo model air 71013, 71033 i 71046 in 1:1:1 ratio's.
I am refering to this color:



I hope someone will find this helpful!

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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 03:01 PM UTC
Well, Sven, this is very useful for me, thanks a milion
I've been building a JNA t-55 and I 've been looking for the right pale green color.
I did some chip comparison and in my opinion is very close to Lifecolor grau RLM 02
But anyway, I think I'm going to try your Vallejo model air recipe. They doesn't need dilution, so it could very useful using them vith my airbrush

Cheers, thanks again
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 06:12 PM UTC

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Well, Sven, this is very useful for me, thanks a milion
I've been building a JNA t-55 and I 've been looking for the right pale green color.
I did some chip comparison and in my opinion is very close to Lifecolor grau RLM 02
But anyway, I think I'm going to try your Vallejo model air recipe. They doesn't need dilution, so it could very useful using them vith my airbrush

Cheers, thanks again


No problem Mauro,i hoped this will help someone,if you have more qurstions about JNA t-55,or Croatian ones,just ask i now some guys who now them nut to nut,bolt to bolt,i have more pictures i will post now in a new topic about Croatian's T-72's and we will see
KInd regards!
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:17 PM UTC
O,and Mauro we wouldnt mind seeing some pics of your model,you know
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:00 PM UTC
Well Sven, I've been trying to reprodece this T55 exemplar



I think you've already know. The pic was taken at the beginning of slovenian war on the 3th july 1991. The jna tank is entering in Slovenia passing trough a cork field



This is my build so far








The most difficult think about JNA T-55 is that they are mostly polish T55. Tamiya kit represent (with some mistakes) a russian version. I didn't want to do a huge conversion work so I was looking for a russian one.
Well finally I found it

At the moment I'm having a break in jna t55 construction 'cause I'm building a czech T55 C1 Favorit, but i think I'll restart to build it soon

cheers
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:13 PM UTC
This is superb,just fantastic,that looks like a nice polish ver. snorkel (is it ?? or its russian ver.?),did you fully scratchbuild it?
Im waiting for painting,this will be awsome!
Sven.
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Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:29 PM UTC
Thanks for your kind words Sven
Is a Polish snorkel. Tamiya kit has just the russian snorkel but Jna t55s used to carry the polish one, so I had to scratch build it


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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 12:05 AM UTC

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Thanks for your kind words Sven
Is a Polish snorkel. Tamiya kit has just the russian snorkel but Jna t55s used to carry the polish one, so I had to scratch build it




Oops,looks like someone didnt listen well ,but hey im only 13,i have decades to learn from you guys )
Mauro i cant find the favorit thread,do you have a link?
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 12:26 AM UTC
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/171835#1442665



Jna T 55 equipments are a mess indeed. In reference pics you can find polish version stowages and snorkels mounted on russian versions.

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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 12:29 AM UTC

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https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/171835#1442665



Jna T 55 equipments are a mess indeed. In reference pics you can find polish version stowages and snorkels mounted on russian versions.

cheers


Cool,hope there will be a update soon.
Kind Regards,Sven
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 07:02 AM UTC
For people who can't use anything else but Tamiya colors, I've heard that the best way to reproduce the Jna pale green is

XF22 RLM Gray

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/tam/tam81722.htm

In my opinion is a little bit darker than the real color, but anyway that's what I knew

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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 03:17 PM UTC

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For people who can't use anything else but Tamiya colors, I've heard that the best way to reproduce the Jna pale green is XF22 RLM Gray


Tamiya XF-73 D.Green / JGSDF is a much better match.

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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 10:37 PM UTC


I don't know Tony, may be you're right but It seems to me a bit darker and maybe a bit too "green" benhat the original color, but to be honest I've never tried it, so actually I can't value it correctly. I'll buy a bottle to try, thanks for the advice

Anyway, looking at the references pics, it seems noticeable that Jna tanks have different color shades

sometime they look painted in a dark Gray-green color...



sometime they look more gray than green...



sometime they appear painted in pale green



Of course, diferences depend also on the pic quality and on the light conditions, but probably standard colors were not strictly respected by yugoslav army.


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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 03:00 AM UTC
Yes,color of Yugoslavian tanks did vary from gray green to pale green,there is no standard,its best to check references for a specific tank!
Kind regards,Sven
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 03:47 AM UTC

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Yes,color of Yugoslavian tanks did vary from gray green to pale green,there is no standard,its best to check references for a specific tank!
Kind regards,Sven


That's exactly what i meant

They sometime appear even painted in...



olive drab!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 03:57 AM UTC
Yeah,they were not picky,paint it with what you have!
Sven! :H

ps.Mauro you got mail
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 04:41 AM UTC

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Yeah,they were not picky,paint it with what you have!
Sven! :H

ps.Mauro you got mail


Got it

Thanks a lot
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 02:22 AM UTC
Hi, I'm starting with the Kirin M-84. Do you think is the same green?

Thanks
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 03:35 AM UTC
Thanks a lot Sven for the info!!!
One question:
Did the same colour existed in the Serbian Army???
I'm planing on building a Serbian T-55, during the Kossovo war. Should I paint it with the Revell 362???
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 04:06 AM UTC
Andrea-yes all Slovenian,Croatian and JNA M-84 were painted SMB. If you are located somewhere near Trieste you should visit the Pivka war history museum in Slovenia,they have 2 original M-84 (One JNA (Plain SMB and one Slovenian Camo)
I was there a month before here are few pics of the M-84 (taken with a cellphone)























Orestis-From my head-YES,but to be 100% i have to check.

Im looking forward to seeing both builds

Kind regards,Sven.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 07:12 AM UTC
Thank you Sven, Thanks for your help.

Un fortunatly I'm not very near to Trieste but if I will organize a trip I will add this location to see the museum.

Thank again

Andrea
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 03:18 AM UTC
Hello Orestis,sorry for the delay,i checked.

Yes,you can use revell 362 for that job .

Do you need any reference photos?

Here is one finished model representing T-55 in Kosovo

http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6135&sid=2cb7885e3f901be6ad78a2b2d5d4d4e6

Kind regards,Sven.
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 03:36 AM UTC

Many, many thanks Sven!!!!
No delay at all!!!!
As far as I can see from the link, it's a straight forward build...
But Im' thinking of a tank been hit by a bomb or a missile...
I've found some photos but anything more it would be more than welcome!!!!
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 04:10 AM UTC
Here's a link on Armor destroyed 1991-1995,but they were almost the same .
If you need any help translating please ask

Destroyed Armor


Kind regards,Sven!
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 05:01 AM UTC

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Here's a link on Armor destroyed 1991-1995,but they were almost the same .
If you need any help translating please ask

Destroyed Armor


Kind regards,Sven!


Wow Sven!

Lots of stunning pics! Thanks a million!
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