I'm currently planning on building my second ever diorama, this time I want to build a 1/35 medium-sized dio about a fictional SAS operation in England, fighting insurgents in England, retrieving hostages. I'm not entirely sure where in England yet, I was thinking may be a street in London, a typical suburban road, a bank or a countryside area with a forest. I've done some research and this is what I've found:
SAS soldiers
http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/17392/1/british_sas_urban_elite_series
Insurgents
http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/16781/0/iraq_kit_2_insurgents_terrorists
Landrover Defender Wolf wmik
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/hobby-boss135-british-landrover-defender-wolf/
I have no idea what else to use, i can't find any banks or english houses in 1/35, please post any links to things you think would be good but I'm only 15 so I don't have the biggest of budgets, thanks.
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Scoonesy
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 09:32 PM UTC
callmehobbes
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:40 PM UTC
The WMIK doesn't really fit into the CRW (Anti-terrorist) theme. How about doing a killing house dio as it would be easy to scratch build the walls etc.
Have you played Callof Duty Modern Warfare - that ought to give you some idea.
Hope this helps and good luck -keep us posted.
Have you played Callof Duty Modern Warfare - that ought to give you some idea.
Hope this helps and good luck -keep us posted.
Scoonesy
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:56 PM UTC
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The WMIK doesn't really fit into the CRW (Anti-terrorist) theme. How about doing a killing house dio as it would be easy to scratch build the walls etc.
Have you played Callof Duty Modern Warfare - that ought to give you some idea.
Hope this helps and good luck -keep us posted.
Hmm, yeah i've played cod4 and I originally thought of replicating the sas ship raid but i'm too much of a beginner so I probably couldn't do something that difficult and I don't have enough money for a 1/35 ship. I really want to use the typical famous black gas-mask suit that the sas wear but i'm not sure what location to put it in because in the desert they would wear clothing to blend in and likewise in the jungle. What do you mean by a killing house dio? sorry im new to this
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jashby
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 11:00 PM UTC
Hi Matt,
If you use google images and search for S.A.S Iranian Embassy it will give you a wealth of pictures that, although old, could give you some insipration. Maybe think about TV crews and Bobbys (Police) as well. Plus a civilian car or two.
As for buildings try foamcore. It is pretty cheap and you can quite easily scribe bricks with the back of your hobby knife. You can also draw your design onto the board with a pencil and it glues with PVA. You can get it from most good Art and Graphics shops.
If you can, see if your library carries a copy of Model Making by Colin Maxwell. Its a British book on how to make buildings out of foamcore.
UK ISNB: 0 7496 0478 X
HTH and best of luck with your dio. Would love to see it when you've finished.
If you use google images and search for S.A.S Iranian Embassy it will give you a wealth of pictures that, although old, could give you some insipration. Maybe think about TV crews and Bobbys (Police) as well. Plus a civilian car or two.
As for buildings try foamcore. It is pretty cheap and you can quite easily scribe bricks with the back of your hobby knife. You can also draw your design onto the board with a pencil and it glues with PVA. You can get it from most good Art and Graphics shops.
If you can, see if your library carries a copy of Model Making by Colin Maxwell. Its a British book on how to make buildings out of foamcore.
UK ISNB: 0 7496 0478 X
HTH and best of luck with your dio. Would love to see it when you've finished.
Scoonesy
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 11:10 PM UTC
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Hi Matt,
If you use google images and search for S.A.S Iranian Embassy it will give you a wealth of pictures that, although old, could give you some insipration. Maybe think about TV crews and Bobbys (Police) as well. Plus a civilian car or two.
As for buildings try foamcore. It is pretty cheap and you can quite easily scribe bricks with the back of your hobby knife. You can also draw your design onto the board with a pencil and it glues with PVA. You can get it from most good Art and Graphics shops.
If you can, see if your library carries a copy of Model Making by Colin Maxwell. Its a British book on how to make buildings out of foamcore.
UK ISNB: 0 7496 0478 X
HTH and best of luck with your dio. Would love to see it when you've finished.
Great idea! I kept looking for kit-houses but I reckon i could scratch build, just I'm going to have to do lots of research because i've never even tried it before. I thought of doing an iranian embassy diorama but I want the terrorists to be visible so i'll probably just do a road with a few houses and a shoot-out between the sas and some terrorists, starting to become a bitof a call of duty style diorama but i'll give it a shot. Brilliant idea on the camera crew btw, cant find any on the internet though but i could just find some civillians and make a camera out of left over foam. Thanks!
jashby
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 11:57 PM UTC
Matt,
See if you can get hold of the old Verlinden VP0688 TV News Team set.
I'm pretty sure I saw another couple of sets but I can't remember who made them.
Unfortunately the two sites I looked at (Hobby Easy and BnAModelWorld.com) are out of stock but you might have better luck in the US.
Cheers, John
See if you can get hold of the old Verlinden VP0688 TV News Team set.
I'm pretty sure I saw another couple of sets but I can't remember who made them.
Unfortunately the two sites I looked at (Hobby Easy and BnAModelWorld.com) are out of stock but you might have better luck in the US.
Cheers, John
Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:04 AM UTC
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Matt,
See if you can get hold of the old Verlinden VP0688 TV News Team set.
I'm pretty sure I saw another couple of sets but I can't remember who made them.
Unfortunately the two sites I looked at (Hobby Easy and BnAModelWorld.com) are out of stock but you might have better luck in the US.
Cheers, John
Wow, you're a star! That is absolutely fantastic, I did some more research on verlinden and i actually found some armoured camera crew with helmets, thanks so much!
jashby
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:19 AM UTC
Your welcome mate.
Thats what this forum is all about.
Have fun anddon't forget to post some pics when your done.
Cheers, John
Thats what this forum is all about.
Have fun anddon't forget to post some pics when your done.
Cheers, John
Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:41 AM UTC
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Your welcome mate.
Thats what this forum is all about.
Have fun anddon't forget to post some pics when your done.
Cheers, John
:D, im currently doing a sketch of what i want the diorama to look like so i can use it as a plan to build, it should be up within the next hour and i hope people can make suggestions on some things, I've joined about 3 diorama forums but this one is by far the most helpful, I found some left over grass and gravel from a hornsby train set i had when i was little so I can use some of that.
dioman13
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:48 AM UTC
Hey Matt, try scalehobbyist.com for your news team in 1/35th. I think the one by Verlindin is still there. As for a ship, Just use styrene card stock with some evergreen angles, a few bolts heads and build a hatchway and deck section. No need to buy a whole 1/35th scale ship for a small dio.
Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 03:39 AM UTC
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Hey Matt, try scalehobbyist.com for your news team in 1/35th. I think the one by Verlindin is still there. As for a ship, Just use styrene card stock with some evergreen angles, a few bolts heads and build a hatchway and deck section. No need to buy a whole 1/35th scale ship for a small dio.
Thanks for the tip! I might make a ship diorama in the future but for this one i've decided that a suburban road is probably what i'm going to build
afv_rob
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 04:42 AM UTC
This sounds like a cool idea Matt. I always fancied doing a box diorama using DML's SAS figures in an Iranian Embassy style diorama.
As to your diorama plans, I think a street section would be a good option. A quick google search of 'UK' or 'British' high street should yield some inspiration for the buildings/shop fronts etc. As its one of your first dioramas i'd advice not being overly ambitious with it, try and keep it relatively small and compact, with maybe just part of a building and a shop front and section of the street.
The WMIK isnt really suitable either, for these sorts of op's the troop are likely to use range rovers as a means of transport to the location.
Maybe you could even add a civilian car into the dio:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ID-53-Arii-1-32-90-Toyota-Celsior-Model-Car-Kit-/140526537151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b808c9bf#ht_500wt_1156
As to your diorama plans, I think a street section would be a good option. A quick google search of 'UK' or 'British' high street should yield some inspiration for the buildings/shop fronts etc. As its one of your first dioramas i'd advice not being overly ambitious with it, try and keep it relatively small and compact, with maybe just part of a building and a shop front and section of the street.
The WMIK isnt really suitable either, for these sorts of op's the troop are likely to use range rovers as a means of transport to the location.
Maybe you could even add a civilian car into the dio:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ID-53-Arii-1-32-90-Toyota-Celsior-Model-Car-Kit-/140526537151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b808c9bf#ht_500wt_1156
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Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 06:46 AM UTC
This is a plan for the diorama, In real life it will be more stretched out so the camera crew aren't so close, and of course in real life the insurgents won't be lego men. But this is the general plan of what it will be like when finished. Please leave any comments, remember the real thing will look quite different, this is just a basic plan for the diorama.
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:13 PM UTC
I wish you the best of luck finding affordable vehicles in 1/35. I know Mig makes some and I've found several on Ebay. The Ebay ones are more affordable, but I'm not sure they would fit a British or Middle Eastern base.
okdoky
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 02:48 PM UTC
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I wish you the best of luck finding affordable vehicles in 1/35. I know Mig makes some and I've found several on Ebay. The Ebay ones are more affordable, but I'm not sure they would fit a British or Middle Eastern base.
More likely to get European cars in 1/32 diecastsrather than in plastic that would suit your scene. But the terrorists look a bit exposed in the middle of a road with sandbags ( from where) and the concrete barriers, when they are more likely to be holed up in a house or other building surrounded by armed police, standing off to provide a secure perimeter and keep public and press away.
The SAS would most likely attack the house in groups of 4 or so from different angles. But that might be a bit too distracting trying to show all sides of the building being attacked in model form.
The base would be better with the house as the main focus of attention and the police in defense around and behind hastily prepared cover like cars, post boxes, garden walls or fences or other typical, natural, and man made street features.
The SAS would use something like an adapted van, minibus, people carrier or modern Landrover 110 station waggon with ladders or other specialist equipment to reach high windows, but only if it could get in the drive and close enough to use it. If not they would have to use ladders or blast holes in the external walls or doors.or available windows.
SAS vehicle windows probably of the blacked out, privacy type.
Look for news articles on ordinary house sieges where normal police and fire arms units negotiated with folks inside and adapt it to include the SAS approach, run in and or first attacks on the building.
As with a lot of dios, the inference of the locations of friends and foe might be better left to the imagination on one side, (where they are within the building) rather than trying to show close quarter fighting.
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Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 07:03 PM UTC
Yeah thanks for the tips, In the real thing i plan on making the house the main focus but i couldn't really show exactly how i wanted it on a 2d sheet of paper on microsoft word The story behind the diorama is that insurgents have taken hostage roughly 8 or 9 people and they are demanding a ransom for their safe release so the government paid the ransom twice yet they are still asking for more, so the sas step in to secure the hostages, now logically that would take place inside a house but I can't really show that so i'm going to say they took the hostages outside by the trees, tied them up and put timed explosives to them saying that if they weren't paid £8 million in the next 10 minutes, they would detonate but if they were paid, they would defuse the bomb. The sas do not believe them so carry on fighting in a hurry to save the hostages. There we go, that way the hostages and some of the insurgents can be outside, i might put one or two in the windows or on the roof or something.
The story behind the diorama is that insurgents have taken hostage roughly 8 or 9 people and they are demanding a ransom for their safe release so the government paid the ransom twice yet they are still asking for more, so the sas step in to secure the hostages, now logically that would take place inside a house but I can't really show that so i'm going to say they took the hostages outside by the trees, tied them up and put timed explosives to them saying that if they weren't paid £8 million in the next 10 minutes, they would detonate but if they were paid, they would defuse the bomb. The sas do not believe them so carry on fighting in a hurry to save the hostages. There we go, that way the hostages and some of the insurgents can be outside, i might put one or two in the windows or on the roof or something.Scoonesy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:21 PM UTC
PICTURES OF THE ROAD WILL BE UP SHORTLY, just letting the "tar" dry so i can paint on road markings and make a drain and manhole cover 
Scoonesy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 01:16 AM UTC
Here are the photos of the road so far, sorry about the quality, my sister is borrowing my camera so i had to use my webcam >.< Anyway, the road isn't completely finished, when its stuck onto the diorama board ill make a pothole. The trees next to it are just to show what else i've done, in the real thing they will not be there. Please leave any comments on how to improve, Thanks!
P.S, the gap in the middle will be fixed, i had to make the road on two seperate pieces of card, the bad quality makes it look a bit cheap and rushed but when i get my proper camera back ill take some hd photos.
P.S, the gap in the middle will be fixed, i had to make the road on two seperate pieces of card, the bad quality makes it look a bit cheap and rushed but when i get my proper camera back ill take some hd photos.
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Gendrok
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 08:16 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThe WMIK doesn't really fit into the CRW (Anti-terrorist) theme. How about doing a killing house dio as it would be easy to scratch build the walls etc.
Have you played Callof Duty Modern Warfare - that ought to give you some idea.
Hope this helps and good luck -keep us posted.
Hmm, yeah i've played cod4 and I originally thought of replicating the sas ship raid but i'm too much of a beginner so I probably couldn't do something that difficult and I don't have enough money for a 1/35 ship. I really want to use the typical famous black gas-mask suit that the sas wear but i'm not sure what location to put it in because in the desert they would wear clothing to blend in and likewise in the jungle. What do you mean by a killing house dio? sorry im new to this
When I saw the figures I wanted to do the tanker raid too! I have the same problem as you though. I actually started making the infrastucture tower, and part of the hull from cereal boxes. I wasn't satisfied, and I was convinced that even after I painted it, I wouldn't make it look metal enough. Besides that, I can never seem to find the figures available on a website.
Scoonesy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 09:19 PM UTC
Right, Here we go! I got my proper camera back, stuck the roads to some plasterboard and made some potholes and a grenade explosion hole. Please leave any comments and any ways of making it more realistic, thanks!
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 10:02 PM UTC
Talking about civilian 1/35th scale diecast stuff, Schabak had released a few 1/35 Ford Transit variants, including this minibus :
You can still found them on eBay from time to time or order them from some online diecast sellers...Interior details are rather basic, and you'll have to modify the steering and dashboard for a British Ford, but usable 1/35th scale diecast models are not that thick on the ground
HTH
Frenchy
You can still found them on eBay from time to time or order them from some online diecast sellers...Interior details are rather basic, and you'll have to modify the steering and dashboard for a British Ford, but usable 1/35th scale diecast models are not that thick on the ground
HTH
Frenchy
Scoonesy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 10:20 PM UTC
Hmm yeah i need british cars, i have to accept 1/35 cars do not exist, ill just get a 1/36 or 1/34 one, theres plenty of choice out there
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