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jointhepit
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 10:29 AM UTC
hey guys, just wanted to share this build of a BMP1
It's the old Italeri/Dml kit,didn't wanne wait till christmass for the possible Trumpeter release

I made some slight mods to the vehicle, some details , some small hooks as I found in various photo's, some added for my own pleasure( like the strapholders around the intake grilles, too many , but it looked good )
added some detail to the sides of the hull, hinges and some holes
filled the periscopes ,added wires to the searchlights, filled in the joints ad the front , where the hull meets the top, big gap
lost an anchorage point so I made 2 new ones, addded the spring thingy underneath it,
changed the gunmantled somewhat,it came close enough for me
added a layer of ballistic mat to the turret (as found in this walk around
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1864
and this one (the same vehicle?)
http://www.thetankmaster.com/ENGLISH/afv/bmp-1_01.asp
made a smoke launchre rack on the back, and I put some left over T72 smokegranades in them (guess not correct, but what the heck )

I also found a way to kind of put the tracks on, don't know if it hasn't been told before, but filling the links a little, so the become smaller in lenght makes them sit easier on the sprocket, I also had to cut back some on 2 theeth of the innerside of the sprockets, they hit the recoildamper,
except for the usual scraping and sanding the parts that's about it

some pics to illustrate

the boxart


closing the hull bottomsides


the gap!!


this needs some sanding!


put some car body filler on, and sand smooth


lost anchor, decide to make new



some details


front with "home made" anchors


turret, removed ventilatorhole and added new , slightly raised one myself


as seen on walkaround, added some ballistic mat on driver and commandershatch


added the "bolt and washers" to secure ballistic mat on turret and hatches



hope you like, I'll be painting soon, any suggestions, plain green like walk around, or green black, yellow?
or green black grey?

I want it to be in the caucasus regional war theater for dio purpose

Greetz Tha Pit


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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 10:55 AM UTC
Great build so far Tha

Look here for picks and drawings

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp1/a_bmp1.htm

http://army.lv/?ss=%D0%91%D0%9C%D0%9F-1&snews=1&sart=1&sarm=1&svid=1&spho=1&sfil=1

http://www.army.lv/files/97.pdf

http://btvt.narod.ru/4/bmp1_0.htm

http://weaponwars.ru/bmp-1/bmp-1.html







cheers
jointhepit
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:10 AM UTC
again some very helpfull info there my Italian friend!

and thanks to online translator, I had a peek already, tommorow will be a long day of reading, sooo much to see

thanks, molto grazie!

Tha Pit
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:24 PM UTC
I'm recently a fan of the BMPs and Russian armor in general. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 07:39 PM UTC
You're welcome Tha

I've found another site entirely dedicated to BMP-1

http://bmp-info.ru/

I've noticed that if you write БМП-1 in google research engine, you can find a lot of references

Other references

http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/Modern/BMP1/

http://www.armyrecognition.com/irak_iraq_v_hicule_blind_s_l_gers/bmp-1_iraqi_irakien_pictures_picture_photo_image_light_armoured_armored_infantery_combat_fighting_ve.html



Czech BVP-1 walkaround (huge pics. Click on them twice)

Slovac BVP-1 walkaround in temporary summer scheme



Another Slovac BVP

http://www.militaryfoto.sk/pages/page.php?page=10strela2&idxPage=1


BVP-1 is the czech denomination of BMP-1 so you can use this noun for your internet researches

Anyway you can find some other pics of Czech-Slovak BMP BVP

here

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Karl187
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:30 AM UTC
Tha Pit- really great job on the build. Looks awesome. If it was me painting it I'd go for that weird red/black/light green/green in the picture Mauro posted- thats one weird scheme!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:10 AM UTC
I noticed that I don't see any seem lines on the barrel. Is it a one piece part?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:29 AM UTC
I built this kit ages ago and like what your doing to it
Can you replace the moulded on shovel?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:55 AM UTC
Nice job on this old beast of a kit. looking real good.

Roy
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 05:19 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Tha Pit- really great job on the build. Looks awesome. If it was me painting it I'd go for that weird red/black/light green/green in the picture Mauro posted- thats one weird scheme!



Slavak have interesting camo schemes on theirs BMP (1 or 2 or BZpV)












BVP-2


BVP-1 Svatava (it is a reconnaissance vehicle "Svatava" based on BMP-1 chassis. Is known by the acronym BZpV. It is actually a BVP-1 with extended equipment for research in the rear.)


BVP-2


BVP-2
Karl187
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 05:35 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Tha Pit- really great job on the build. Looks awesome. If it was me painting it I'd go for that weird red/black/light green/green in the picture Mauro posted- thats one weird scheme!



Slavak have interesting camo schemes on theirs BMP (1 or 2 or BZpV)




They certainly are interesting Mauro- a nice departure from the usual schemes.

Great photos bud.
jointhepit
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 08:49 AM UTC
@Karl; thank you!
"If it was me painting it I'd go for that weird red/black/light green/green"

sadly this is too intense for me
wonder what mushrooms it took to come up with that crazy combination

@Matt; the barrel is the kitpiece, it's a solid bar, and the endcap is separate with a "un"round hole in it
but with some sanding and filling i managed to clean it up, and your post confirms I did a good job too
thanks

@tom; "Can you replace the moulded on shovel?"
it is a seperate piece in the kit, as far as my memory can recall
I'll check my other hulls tomorrow, and will correct info then

@Roy; thanks for your nice reply

and last but not least
@Mauro; DAMN your good!

where in gods name do you find all that stuff...
anything I throw at you , you find some really intresting and some weird info , pics, drawings...

I hope fellow modelers who read the topic later on have as much fun in looking at those links,pics as I am having now

greetz Tha Pit
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Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 10:52 AM UTC
No secrets, Just some tricks using the internet research keys

Other intersting exemplars which I've found are:

Georgian Bvp-1p





Georgian bvp-1pk

"This is the BMP-1PK variant. The "K" indicates it is a command "komandni" variant. At the rear of the hull are two inlet plugs, "the commander's bellpushes" with an antennal mount beside them. There are no firing ports on the starboard side."














georgian BMP 1 with rocket launcher





All pics were taken in Georgia in 2001

You can find other stunning russian stuff pics here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16498755@N07/sets/72157624856540264/

Glad to have helped you

cheers

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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 01:33 PM UTC
what a great set of pics !!! whoooaa
that rocket version is pretty damn cool...
I'll pick that georgian camo scheme for my Zvezda BMP-1, thats for sure.

great work so far on that Italeri kit !!
jointhepit
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 12:12 AM UTC
the final one with the smoke laucher is really wicked!

maybe I'll try it, looks not easy
thanks Mauro


and thanks John for your kind reply

greetz
Tha Pit
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 03:25 AM UTC
Looks like a stripped down rocket launcher used on Mi-8/Mi-24/Mi-17 helicopters...correct? Georgians are resourcefull if not successfull...
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 04:00 AM UTC

Quoted Text

the final one with the smoke laucher is really wicked!

maybe I'll try it, looks not easy
thanks Mauro


and thanks John for your kind reply

greetz
Tha Pit



Deffinitely go for it. Looks like all you need is some tubing, a punch, styrene sheet and a circle cutter.
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 05:42 AM UTC
You might want to alter that front panel on hull top as it's neither correct shape or size?



HTH
Andy

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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 06:23 AM UTC
Another pic:




Quoted Text

Looks like a stripped down rocket launcher used on Mi-8/Mi-24/Mi-17 helicopters...correct? Georgians are resourcefull if not successfull...



Hi Jacques. Look here



The caption said: "MT-LB With 57mm Aircraft Rocket Pack Georgia 1998. 57mm aircraft rocket pack, still on the weapons pylon, attached to the turret of an MT-LB APC."

That's incredibly ingenious. Maybe on the BMP-1 there's a similar field modification

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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 09:07 AM UTC
I saw something similar on what I thought was an MT-LB. But it wasn't, it was this:



I posted it myself a while ago and it was identified by a member on armorama called Erik Van Rosen as a Yugoslavian M-60P.







Its in a museum in Sarajevo. Pretty cool looking machine.
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 11:19 AM UTC
Yes, is a Serbian m-60 P

Thanks for sharing Karl

...and Lybian rebels have done "more or less" the same thing on their
pick-up...





















Sorry for the off topic

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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 07:15 PM UTC
Maybe this is interesting for you
Russian BMP,s (1-2) in Afghan war



















captured:




You can find other pics about russian tanks in Afghanistan in this tread

http://www.nashgorod.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=244&t=266280

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jointhepit
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 09:33 PM UTC
first of all, thanks Mauro, I guess you can read minds too, I was about to start a topic concerning my future build of some BMP2's


, watching this post evolve, I've seen some wicked conversions I could make, but I'm too far into the build to add the rocket launcher, nor will I correct the front 'wash plate'

we should open a topic "I put a rocket on my AFV", we allready have some cool stuff here, and Kamil's topic
http://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/175412&page=1
is also rocket "enhanced

wonder how long the welds on the rollbar/rocket launcher will hold, looks like a lot of fun when the rocket starts blasting, and suddenly rips off the mount....run!!


LOL


greetz, and thanks for all the info/reply's

Tha Pit
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 09:57 PM UTC

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wonder how long the welds on the rollbar/rocket launcher will hold, looks like a lot of fun when the rocket starts blasting, and suddenly rips off the mount....run!!





...Let's run!





You're welcome Tha.


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