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Hobby Boss's Yongshi SUV 0.5tbill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 10:45 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 11:05 AM UTC
Great review, Bill... and thanks to Karl!
I got this kit a couple of weeks ago but haven't started on it yet.. but it really is a nice kit.. and an encouraging sign of nice things to come.
Voyager just released a nice set for it that has the seat belts. and a lot of other things.
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%2035429
Hisham
I got this kit a couple of weeks ago but haven't started on it yet.. but it really is a nice kit.. and an encouraging sign of nice things to come.
Voyager just released a nice set for it that has the seat belts. and a lot of other things.
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%2035429
Hisham
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 11:13 AM UTC
That IS a nice set, Hisham.
Karl did a very professional job on the review, and I'm glad to see more reviews about the Chinese. Their growing military might has made their AFVs more significant now that they're developing their own armaments industry.
Have any of their vehicles so far gone beyond copies of Western ones?
Karl did a very professional job on the review, and I'm glad to see more reviews about the Chinese. Their growing military might has made their AFVs more significant now that they're developing their own armaments industry.
Have any of their vehicles so far gone beyond copies of Western ones?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 11:32 AM UTC
This kit is on my "to get" list. I'd rather like one in 1/1 scale as well.
As far as Chinese vehicles being copies of western designs, some discussion on the Chinese military forums has dealt with this. Basically, it comes down to following success, with their own personal modifications. I'm watching Hobby Boss' releases in this area as they have a number of new subjects listed in two, three and four axle designs. Maybe the subject will become popular enough to merit clear aftermarket lenses for head and tail lights.
As far as Chinese vehicles being copies of western designs, some discussion on the Chinese military forums has dealt with this. Basically, it comes down to following success, with their own personal modifications. I'm watching Hobby Boss' releases in this area as they have a number of new subjects listed in two, three and four axle designs. Maybe the subject will become popular enough to merit clear aftermarket lenses for head and tail lights.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 10:12 PM UTC
Great review Karl; thanks.
This is one I'll have to get to add to my collection of 4x4s and while the Voyager set sounds nice based on Karls review the kit seems pretty good on it's own (except for the seat belts.)
Hopefully they'll also release the 2050 "Chinese Humvee" before too long
This is one I'll have to get to add to my collection of 4x4s and while the Voyager set sounds nice based on Karls review the kit seems pretty good on it's own (except for the seat belts.)
Hopefully they'll also release the 2050 "Chinese Humvee" before too long
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 11:07 PM UTC
Excellent review Karl.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 12:01 AM UTC
Something like this would be a interesting conversion..I sure hope HobbyBoss has some plans for more variants.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43265812@N03/3989570094
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/43265812@N03/3989570094
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 02:09 AM UTC
Excellent review Karl. It is comprehensive and very informative.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 06:50 AM UTC
BTW, for you non Chinese-speaking folks, the vehicle's name is pronounced "Yawng Sherr," not "Sheee" as it looks. PRC Chinese uses a system of westernization called Pinyin that unfortunately was developed by Romanians and therefore has some strange orthographic combinations that are misleading in English.
Of course, many previous attempts to convert Chinese to Western orthography have been just as flawed, so....
Of course, many previous attempts to convert Chinese to Western orthography have been just as flawed, so....
Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 12:28 AM UTC
Bill, Hisham, Russ, Sean, Dave, Olivier- Thanks to you all for the kudos, much appreciated !
Bill- The PLA were copying (sometimes with licenses) Russian military pieces for a long time but then they, in some ways, went down their own road and distanced themselves from overtly Russian designs although more often than not the basis for much of their current military hardware is Russian. They do have their own ideas and designs based on their own interpretations of Russian and Western tech. They currently have projects running for new helicopters, refuelling tankers, transport aircraft and a laundry list of other things from ships to guns- indigenous designs are being pushed like never before.
Personally, I'm just glad of releases like the Yongshi!
Hisham- the ET set looks quite nice- it would be very useful just for the seat-belts alone. Plus- the MG conversion picture you posted is cool- I also hope they plan variants for this.
Bill- thanks for the pronunciation lesson, always useful to know these things!
Also- I have some good references of this vehicle in various camo schemes, plus some interior views and one or two of the civilian version. As soon as I get some minutes to spare I'll put them up.
Bill- The PLA were copying (sometimes with licenses) Russian military pieces for a long time but then they, in some ways, went down their own road and distanced themselves from overtly Russian designs although more often than not the basis for much of their current military hardware is Russian. They do have their own ideas and designs based on their own interpretations of Russian and Western tech. They currently have projects running for new helicopters, refuelling tankers, transport aircraft and a laundry list of other things from ships to guns- indigenous designs are being pushed like never before.
Personally, I'm just glad of releases like the Yongshi!
Hisham- the ET set looks quite nice- it would be very useful just for the seat-belts alone. Plus- the MG conversion picture you posted is cool- I also hope they plan variants for this.
Bill- thanks for the pronunciation lesson, always useful to know these things!
Also- I have some good references of this vehicle in various camo schemes, plus some interior views and one or two of the civilian version. As soon as I get some minutes to spare I'll put them up.
Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 04:35 AM UTC
So, as promised, some references:
The BAW Civilian Version:
The Military Version in PLA Green:
The 0.75t Version in PLA Green:
PLA Digital Camouflage as seen in Beijing 2009:
Type 03 Plateau Camouflage ('Option V "Hungriness Camouflage"' in kit painting instructions):
Type 03 Plateau Digital (I'm not sure whether this is actually Type 03 Digital- it says 'Hybrid' on the side of the vehicle and I don't think the PLA use any Hybrid versions- plus the photo looks like it is in a showroom. It uses colors very similar to those in the regular Type 03 and is close to the color of the uniform version but as I said, I'm not sure about this.)
Interior:
Unfortunately I can't find (yet ) any Yongshi in Ocean Camo- plenty of other vehicles so there are plenty of references- if anyone has any pics of the Yongshi in this camo then post them up!
I hope these are a help to anyone building the kit.
-Karl187-
The BAW Civilian Version:
The Military Version in PLA Green:
The 0.75t Version in PLA Green:
PLA Digital Camouflage as seen in Beijing 2009:
Type 03 Plateau Camouflage ('Option V "Hungriness Camouflage"' in kit painting instructions):
Type 03 Plateau Digital (I'm not sure whether this is actually Type 03 Digital- it says 'Hybrid' on the side of the vehicle and I don't think the PLA use any Hybrid versions- plus the photo looks like it is in a showroom. It uses colors very similar to those in the regular Type 03 and is close to the color of the uniform version but as I said, I'm not sure about this.)
Interior:
Unfortunately I can't find (yet ) any Yongshi in Ocean Camo- plenty of other vehicles so there are plenty of references- if anyone has any pics of the Yongshi in this camo then post them up!
I hope these are a help to anyone building the kit.
-Karl187-
Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 06:00 AM UTC
I found some decent shots of the underside of the Yongshi showing nice suspension detail and the various colors etc. If anyone wants them just shout.
A build log for this is imminent, today or tomorrow and I'll put the link up here. Its falling together so far !
A build log for this is imminent, today or tomorrow and I'll put the link up here. Its falling together so far !
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 07:10 AM UTC
Thanks a lot for posting the pics, Karl... they will be very helpful when I start building mine.
I would love to have those pics of the underside if you could post them.. or send them to my e-mail address.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Hisham
I would love to have those pics of the underside if you could post them.. or send them to my e-mail address.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Hisham
Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 09:08 AM UTC
Hisham- I'll post what I've gathered so far along with a few other reference pics. I'm still looking and if I get anything else worthwhile I'll stick it up here.
Underside:
Engine Bay:
Centre Console Detail (Bill- could you translate the chinese in this picture, I'd like to kno what it says):
Ocean Camo Yongshi:
Thats all for now.
Underside:
Engine Bay:
Centre Console Detail (Bill- could you translate the chinese in this picture, I'd like to kno what it says):
Ocean Camo Yongshi:
Thats all for now.
Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 03:42 AM UTC
My apologies for some of those photos not showing up. I don't know why they are not.
Here's two of the missing ones:
I also found a decent shot of the interior from the rear:
And lastly a shot of an Ocean Camo scheme from the left side- this is the side not covered in the kit painting instructions. The vehicles in the 2009 Parade that wore Ocean Camo were all painted in an almost identical pattern.
I've also begun the Build Log:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/179180&page=1
-Karl187-
Here's two of the missing ones:
I also found a decent shot of the interior from the rear:
And lastly a shot of an Ocean Camo scheme from the left side- this is the side not covered in the kit painting instructions. The vehicles in the 2009 Parade that wore Ocean Camo were all painted in an almost identical pattern.
I've also begun the Build Log:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/179180&page=1
-Karl187-
Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 05:02 AM UTC
Thanks, again, for some great pics... I'm also following your build log.
Hisham
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