Only to happy to hear that Wayne ,,glad ya caught the ,,well lifers now lol oh and one dead dude ..all good kinda reminds me of a ol mate i had in the service ..admittedly he was special forces .. SAS .. and a demo expert .. he told me on this one case he had a problem with .. the mouse nobody could catch ..no trap would work and it never ate anything they left for it but it got into everything ..some of the blokes thought it could walk through solid walls cause of where this little dude got into .. amazed the hell out of them it seems .. so my mate set a trap it couldn't ,, a dise sized bloke of C4 ,,he set up a mirco sized pressure switch ,,he said it was so sensitive that a gental rub would set it off .. so mousey walked over the pad and boom ..problem was ..it went off at 4am something in the morning lol scared the living crap out of a few fokes but got em ..oh you gotta love the Spec ops dont ya lol