Rick Cooper provides a review of the new Trumpeter NKL-26 Aerosan.
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Trumpeter NKL-26 Aerosanc5flies
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:55 PM UTC
Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 07:23 PM UTC
I would be wary of using drawings as a reference. I also checked out 'Engines of the Red Army' as well as other images on Google. Most drawings varied in detail, and even the drawing on 'Engines of the Red Army' varied from the accompanying photos. Those struts for the front skis are mounted higher than Trumpeter made them, but not as high as the drawings show - they're about level with the side windows. And the body shape according to photos are also slightly different from the drawings. If these variations are factual it may be because of different manufacturers, just as Sherman tanks from one foundry had slight differences from those of another manufacturer.
Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 07:49 PM UTC
BTW, Rick, thanks for pointing out potential errors. I might not have done my own research and was planning to start my model tomorrow. Now I have a chance to see if any corrections can be easily done.
Bizarre
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 08:57 AM UTC
According to Terry there are major dimensional issues as per Tankograd's new book.
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr02321.html
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr02321.html
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 08:06 PM UTC
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According to Terry there are major dimensional issues as per Tankograd's new book.
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr02321.html
Just "issues" ?
It looks totally wrong!. It would be better buy the kit for details and scratch the entire body...Worth it the pain?
Biggles2
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2011 - 08:58 AM UTC
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cfs14.tistory.com/image/29/tistory/2009/12/23/13/01/4b319608c27d1&imgrefurl=http://ussr.tistory.com/tag/%25EA%25B5%25AC%25EC%2586%258C%25EB%25A0%25A8%3Fpage%3D3&usg=__TaVNXmvFbayO_ZZ8yOWW4pVP4l8=&h=526&w=1157&sz=142&hl=en&start=321&zoom=1&tbnid=13WVyGUOStNsYM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=150&ei=FFxuTq_3Ior0-gaWlNzTBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daerosan%2Bnkl26%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D1%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
What an address! Look there and you will see there is little difference between Trumpeter and the real thing (with the possible exception of the location of the front ski strut.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2096615541_28af0278ba.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/12/unique-soviet-snowmobiles.html&usg=__wuQ62d8PwejcZ-uNFlKpsO1zRYU=&h=267&w=500&sz=83&hl=en&start=323&zoom=1&tbnid=V5ajSaVpYj0yiM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=130&ei=FFxuTq_3Ior0-gaWlNzTBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daerosan%2Bnkl26%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D1%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
In this drawing (if you choose to use drawings as reference) it is identical to Trumpeter's version (scroll a bit down).
http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/title/Aerosane/t/39703
Trumpeter's areosan seems to be based on these final set of plans. It all boils down to which set of plans you want to believe! It's also possible that if more than one company was involved in manufacturing the Aerosan minor differences resulted.
What an address! Look there and you will see there is little difference between Trumpeter and the real thing (with the possible exception of the location of the front ski strut.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2096615541_28af0278ba.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/12/unique-soviet-snowmobiles.html&usg=__wuQ62d8PwejcZ-uNFlKpsO1zRYU=&h=267&w=500&sz=83&hl=en&start=323&zoom=1&tbnid=V5ajSaVpYj0yiM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=130&ei=FFxuTq_3Ior0-gaWlNzTBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daerosan%2Bnkl26%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D1%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
In this drawing (if you choose to use drawings as reference) it is identical to Trumpeter's version (scroll a bit down).
http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/title/Aerosane/t/39703
Trumpeter's areosan seems to be based on these final set of plans. It all boils down to which set of plans you want to believe! It's also possible that if more than one company was involved in manufacturing the Aerosan minor differences resulted.
ltb073
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2011 - 09:22 AM UTC
Even with the strut issue it still looks like a cool unusual kit I'll put it on my want list and seal with the strut placement when I build it
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2011 - 09:34 AM UTC
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cfs14.tistory.com/image/29/tistory/2009/12/23/13/01/4b319608c27d1&imgrefurl=http://ussr.tistory.com/tag/%25EA%25B5%25AC%25EC%2586%258C%25EB%25A0%25A8%3Fpage%3D3&usg=__TaVNXmvFbayO_ZZ8yOWW4pVP4l8=&h=526&w=1157&sz=142&hl=en&start=321&zoom=1&tbnid=13WVyGUOStNsYM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=150&ei=FFxuTq_3Ior0-gaWlNzTBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daerosan%2Bnkl26%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D1%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
What an address! Look there and you will see there is little difference between Trumpeter and the real thing (with the possible exception of the location of the front ski strut.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2096615541_28af0278ba.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/12/unique-soviet-snowmobiles.html&usg=__wuQ62d8PwejcZ-uNFlKpsO1zRYU=&h=267&w=500&sz=83&hl=en&start=323&zoom=1&tbnid=V5ajSaVpYj0yiM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=130&ei=FFxuTq_3Ior0-gaWlNzTBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daerosan%2Bnkl26%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D1%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
In this drawing (if you choose to use drawings as reference) it is identical to Trumpeter's version (scroll a bit down).
http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/title/Aerosane/t/39703
Trumpeter's areosan seems to be based on these final set of plans. It all boils down to which set of plans you want to believe! It's also possible that if more than one company was involved in manufacturing the Aerosan minor differences resulted.
Sorry, on average I love Trumpeter products....But It seems to me wrong indeed ...
warreni
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 10:22 AM UTC
Why do we modellers set such stock in plans drawn many decades after the priginal was produced? And who says that the Trumpeter kit is not accurate for a certain percentage of the Aerosans produced? One cannot say that, empirically, that the Aerosans produced in the USSR during their production period were all the same. Don't forget these vehicles were also impressed into service from civilian life and could have differed markedly to each other.
If you think it is so bad just don't buy it, but for the rest of us who like having something different in their collection and don't ignore all other drawings other than the ones published in the 'never-wrong' books available out there, we are more than happy to build it.
If you think it is so bad just don't buy it, but for the rest of us who like having something different in their collection and don't ignore all other drawings other than the ones published in the 'never-wrong' books available out there, we are more than happy to build it.
bmikk1
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Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 08:29 AM UTC
Accurate or not, it's gonna be a unique addition to my WW II display...count me in on buying one!!