Started quite some time ago, (over a year now), it’s my intention to wrap up this Trumpeter T-34 over the course of the next year or so. Just wanted to share my passion for my big boy T-34. This will ultimately be finished in a really dirty and trashed scheme. Base will depict a section of a destroyed city, (Berlin). I’ve done this before in 1:35 scale, and it looks pretty intimidating.
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1:16 T-35/85
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 03:06 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 03:08 PM UTC
Turret has been doctored up a bit with globs of super glue to represent casting seams, and dinged with ball bit in motor tool to recreate very rough cast surface appearance of turret that seemed typical;... not yet finished.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 03:10 PM UTC
Playing a bit with some balsa foam to create the beginnings of a destroyed structure. Street will ultimately be littered with rubble and debris.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 03:12 PM UTC
End result will (hopefully), look like this.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 05:37 PM UTC
This picture shows a JS2 not a t34.
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 04:12 AM UTC
Looks good Kevin. I am interested to see how those super glue seams work out when painted...
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 10:34 AM UTC
This picture shows a JS2 not a T-34.
Very true, but picture was posted to illustrate what the scene will look like when finished, not the vehicle. I haven't yet decided if I want larger building remnants such as those depicted in photo or not. Still lots of room for playing with the concept.
Very true, but picture was posted to illustrate what the scene will look like when finished, not the vehicle. I haven't yet decided if I want larger building remnants such as those depicted in photo or not. Still lots of room for playing with the concept.
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 10:38 AM UTC
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Looks good Kevin. I am interested to see how those super glue seams work out when painted...
Me too. The casting seams appear very course in many detail photos I've seen.
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 11:31 AM UTC
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Quoted TextLooks good Kevin. I am interested to see how those super glue seams work out when painted...
Me too. The casting seams appear very course in many detail photos I've seen.
sometime...INCREDIBLY course
sometime a little bit "smoother"...
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:37 PM UTC
Mauro,
Great Pictures! I love that cut-away one! Didn't know the turret was that thick!
Kevin,
Should look great! I remember when Tamiya had the 1/25th scale Tiger and T-34/85. I built them for a contest at a local hobby shop. Won a ribbon for the pair!
You going to do it with the Seige of Berlin white stripe on the turret?
Bill B.
Great Pictures! I love that cut-away one! Didn't know the turret was that thick!
Kevin,
Should look great! I remember when Tamiya had the 1/25th scale Tiger and T-34/85. I built them for a contest at a local hobby shop. Won a ribbon for the pair!
You going to do it with the Seige of Berlin white stripe on the turret?
Bill B.
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 02:20 PM UTC
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Mauro,
Great Pictures! I love that cut-away one! Didn't know the turret was that thick!
Kevin,
Should look great! I remember when Tamiya had the 1/25th scale Tiger and T-34/85. I built them for a contest at a local hobby shop. Won a ribbon for the pair!
You going to do it with the Seige of Berlin white stripe on the turret?
Bill B.
I expect it'll have the ID stripes, yes. I heard that without them, Mustangs would blast anything moving.
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 09:04 PM UTC
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Mauro,
Great Pictures! I love that cut-away one! Didn't know the turret was that thick!
Here you are many other ones
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1208
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/159937&ord=&page=1
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=2018
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=999
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1986
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1683
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=997
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=803
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=821
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=823
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=791
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=753
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=367
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=365
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=269
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1211
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1365
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=813
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1360
http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1367
I think for Russians T-34/85 is a sort of symbol of "Great Patriotic War" victory
They are plenty of well preserved exemplars and lot of them have been transformed into monuments
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 11:23 PM UTC
This one looks like a post war manufactured turret. Same smooth surface as the turrets manufactured in Poland and Czechoslovakia after the war.
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 04:36 AM UTC
Thanks for all the links; all those details will be handy reference. I just ordered some Archer transfers for this beast yesterday. The vehicle depicted on the sheet may or may not have ever made it to Berlin, but for the sake of this display I'm going to assume it did.
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 05:43 AM UTC
Here you can find A LOT of other walkarounds
http://legion-afv.narod.ru/T-34-85.html
Here over 570 pics (many of them are in action photos)
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/foto/631/266/1
Here a book about the T-34-85
http://www.army.lv/files/120.pdf
Here you can find some profiles and technical drawings
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/risunki/631/266#infov
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/shemi/631/266#info
http://www.smcars.net/forums/attachments/tanks/17828d1141265071-t-34-85-1945-model-t34_85_25.gif
http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/1995/01/Draw_21.jpg
Original user's manual
http://pro-tank.ru/teh-dok/tank-t-34-85-rukovodstvo/557-tank-t-34-85-rukovodstvo-soderganie
Hope that will be useful for you
http://legion-afv.narod.ru/T-34-85.html
Here over 570 pics (many of them are in action photos)
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/foto/631/266/1
Here a book about the T-34-85
http://www.army.lv/files/120.pdf
Here you can find some profiles and technical drawings
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/risunki/631/266#infov
http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/shemi/631/266#info
http://www.smcars.net/forums/attachments/tanks/17828d1141265071-t-34-85-1945-model-t34_85_25.gif
http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/1995/01/Draw_21.jpg
Original user's manual
http://pro-tank.ru/teh-dok/tank-t-34-85-rukovodstvo/557-tank-t-34-85-rukovodstvo-soderganie
Hope that will be useful for you
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 09:19 AM UTC
Thanks Spider. I think my single biggest problem will be painting and weathering this beast. I really want it to look “war like”, not toy like. Most seem to be able to build and detail, but oftentimes fall short of the realism I’m after. I’m not a tread head as such, so many of the methods I’ll use are pretty new to me. we’ll just have to wait and see what happens I guess.
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 07:47 PM UTC
Well Kevin, if I were you I'd have the same worry
That's one of the reason why I've never done any kit in the bigger scale
Anyway I think you are in the right place. There are lots of guys here in the site who can give you the best advise.
In my humble opinion the best way to avoid the "toy effect" is using a wide range of colors and a large amount of weatheing process. If I were you i'd use for exemple the hairspray technique which could give you the best results in this case
Here you can find an article written by Mr Mig Jimenez about a 1/16 Kv1
http://migjimenez.blogspot.com/2010/02/winter-time-116th-tamiya-kvii.html
I think it will be useful for you to give an idea about how to paint in a convincing way a challenging project like yours
Another site where you can find lots of inspirations is the Mig production forum
http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/
Hope that will be useful
I'm quite curious to see your project developments
Best regards
That's one of the reason why I've never done any kit in the bigger scale
Anyway I think you are in the right place. There are lots of guys here in the site who can give you the best advise.
In my humble opinion the best way to avoid the "toy effect" is using a wide range of colors and a large amount of weatheing process. If I were you i'd use for exemple the hairspray technique which could give you the best results in this case
Here you can find an article written by Mr Mig Jimenez about a 1/16 Kv1
http://migjimenez.blogspot.com/2010/02/winter-time-116th-tamiya-kvii.html
I think it will be useful for you to give an idea about how to paint in a convincing way a challenging project like yours
Another site where you can find lots of inspirations is the Mig production forum
http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/
Hope that will be useful
I'm quite curious to see your project developments
Best regards
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 02:07 PM UTC
Thanks Mauro. We'll just have to wait and see if I can do this the way I want it to look. I'll do my best, that's about all I can offer.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 02:49 PM UTC
Small update (very small), but my Archer transfers for this beast arrived today.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 09:05 AM UTC
Now I discover that this particular vehicle was more than likely destroyed before it ever got near Berlin. I suppose I could say that this scene is near Budapest? What a bummer.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 08:33 PM UTC
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Now I discover that this particular vehicle was more than likely destroyed before it ever got near Berlin. I suppose I could say that this scene is near Budapest? What a bummer.
So it's a tank belonging to the 2nd or third ukranian front
Which corp? Which tank brigade?
according to the standing bear symbol is a T34/85 of the 36th Guards tank brigade, 11 th Corp, 3th ukranian front
(here you can find all the ww2 Russian tank brigade symbols:
http://wio.ru/tank/oz/oz.htm )
Perhaps you can find an exemplar of the same unit that entered in Berlin, so, with some modifications, you could use the stencils that you've bought
for exemple this one (but unfortunately the pic was taken in Belgrade)
Here some other pics of 36th guard tank
http://tankfront.ru/ussr/tbr-f/gvtbr36f.html
Your exemplar
Anyway If I were you I'd try to paint the tank insignas by hand brushing. On a such large scale it may look more realistic than using decals or stencils. Furthermore the huge model dimensions allows to you to make a good job.
Do you use perhaps Tamiya or Valleyo white primers? If so, you could drive and cut your insignas on the masking tape, then you could apply them on your model before painting the base color. When the base color will be dried , you'll remove the masking tape and so you'll have your insignas already done. Is an usefull tip which i've seen on a modeller's magazine
cheers
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 09:45 PM UTC
Can't wait to see some assembly pics on this. I have the RC version of the 85 and it's one of my favorite tanks. I rushed it into service and now that I have more time I'm going to go back over it.
I just really like the rough finish the Soviet tanks had but applying decals (especially a dry transfer) will be tedious at best. I plan to paint some kind of slogan on it as it is going to be a Berlin battler complete with the 'bed spring' armor.
Now, on with the build!
~ Jeff
I just really like the rough finish the Soviet tanks had but applying decals (especially a dry transfer) will be tedious at best. I plan to paint some kind of slogan on it as it is going to be a Berlin battler complete with the 'bed spring' armor.
Now, on with the build!
~ Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:03 PM UTC
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I just really like the rough finish the Soviet tanks had but applying decals (especially a dry transfer) will be tedious at best. I plan to paint some kind of slogan on it as it is going to be a Berlin battler complete with the 'bed spring' armor.
Painting a number and a rough white stripe could be enough
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:06 PM UTC
Yeah, that's what I meant. i have those photos as well as others to go by.
~ Jeff
~ Jeff
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2011 - 12:21 AM UTC
http://www.o5m6.de/T-34_85_1944_Flattened.html
http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/2-USSR/03-MediumTanks/T-34%2885%29/T-34%2885%29-1944.htm
"Towards Berlin!"
German tank camo are a a far more complex
http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/2-USSR/03-MediumTanks/T-34%2885%29/T-34%2885%29-1944.htm
"Towards Berlin!"
German tank camo are a a far more complex