Hi Folks well the main painting and some of the detail painting has been done but there is still a lot to do to make it look like a work worn truck.
The last pic is the Federal and trailer in comparison with a GMC-CCKW 353 water tank truck
I think it is starting to look good how about you folks. Comments welcomed
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MrRoo
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 02:10 PM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 03:09 PM UTC
Looking very good Cliff! I really like the worn look on the tractor. Excellent worn paint job.
Only thing I notice is the use of pastels for the rust. While it looks good, it looks a little off-color. (unless it's the result of the camera) Have you tried using real rust dust?
Only thing I notice is the use of pastels for the rust. While it looks good, it looks a little off-color. (unless it's the result of the camera) Have you tried using real rust dust?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 03:40 PM UTC
Brother Pouch
Would you mind sharing your painting/weathering technique to achieve this look???-----or is it a classified Aussie Bum secret???? Seriously, Cliff---I'd like to give this technique a try, so can you share please??? Thanks.
Something that might be worth considering---a truck that shop worn would probably have tires that would be fairly worn/bald? A nice touch to consider might be really smoothing out the tires---not completely mind you, but file/sand off the tread a bit more, and then hit them with a black/grey paint to give them that rubber sun faded look---you could even use a very small brush and paint in some tire checkering.
Just some thoughts -----again, great model Cliff, just great!
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Pouch jr (tm)
Would you mind sharing your painting/weathering technique to achieve this look???-----or is it a classified Aussie Bum secret???? Seriously, Cliff---I'd like to give this technique a try, so can you share please??? Thanks.
Something that might be worth considering---a truck that shop worn would probably have tires that would be fairly worn/bald? A nice touch to consider might be really smoothing out the tires---not completely mind you, but file/sand off the tread a bit more, and then hit them with a black/grey paint to give them that rubber sun faded look---you could even use a very small brush and paint in some tire checkering.
Just some thoughts -----again, great model Cliff, just great!
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Pouch jr (tm)
M113
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 03:42 PM UTC
Wow !!! MrRoo !!! It''s good ! Bloody Ripper ! (F-oat !) :-)
I especially like the weathering.
Good job !
I especially like the weathering.
Good job !
MrRoo
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 05:52 PM UTC
[quote]Excellent worn paint job.
Only thing I notice is the use of pastels for the rust. While it looks good, it looks a little off-color.quote]
Hi Ken I have yet to add pastels and so the rust affect you can see is humbrol 98 chocolate brown with a drop of 114 red. Once I do the pastels I will put orange pastel over it and this should (I hope) give the rust stains a real good look. I did do this on one of my earlier trucks and found that the pastels,weathering and matt clear tone it down a bit.
Thanks for you comments folks I appreciate them.
Only thing I notice is the use of pastels for the rust. While it looks good, it looks a little off-color.quote]
Hi Ken I have yet to add pastels and so the rust affect you can see is humbrol 98 chocolate brown with a drop of 114 red. Once I do the pastels I will put orange pastel over it and this should (I hope) give the rust stains a real good look. I did do this on one of my earlier trucks and found that the pastels,weathering and matt clear tone it down a bit.
Thanks for you comments folks I appreciate them.
Ronald_Kok
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 09:39 AM UTC
Hi Cliff amazing piece of paintwork you have done on the Federal truck.
Have you used the salt technik on this baby?
And as WeWillHold said wil you share the paint techniks and colors with us newby`s :-)
Have you used the salt technik on this baby?
And as WeWillHold said wil you share the paint techniks and colors with us newby`s :-)
Kencelot
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 09:43 AM UTC
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Hi Ken I have yet to add pastels and so the rust affect you can see is humbrol 98 chocolate brown with a drop of 114 red. Once I do the pastels I will put orange pastel over it and this should (I hope) give the rust stains a real good look.
Ooops my bad. It looks so much like pastels.
Disregard all of the above.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:33 AM UTC
Cliff,
Nice job,those 2 units look great together.
Constructive crit point...IF it is in a dusty enviornment,ignore this.
I think the 5th wheel,(plate that the trailer rides on) could be a greasy color,like grimy black.If Zod shows in chat,we can ask him,how much goo is on his 5th wheel.But if it is a dusty area,and the tractor has been driving with no tail,the grease would trap the dust from the road,and it would look just like you have it.
Nice job,those 2 units look great together.
Constructive crit point...IF it is in a dusty enviornment,ignore this.
I think the 5th wheel,(plate that the trailer rides on) could be a greasy color,like grimy black.If Zod shows in chat,we can ask him,how much goo is on his 5th wheel.But if it is a dusty area,and the tractor has been driving with no tail,the grease would trap the dust from the road,and it would look just like you have it.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 12:08 PM UTC
Roo ,the # 3 pic really shows your talent for weathering . Are you going to add a canvas top to the cab? You have another great truck here . I admire your work
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 12:34 PM UTC
It is really looking great. MrRoo!!! This one has seen a hard life. You depict a very convincing hard working truck. The weathering and fading paint is fantastic. the weather beaten wood on the trailer is outstanding. My hats of to you Sir. Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 02:10 PM UTC
Cliff, that's a very nice model you have built, look forward to seeing the finished version.
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 03:57 PM UTC
Looking Great Cliff :-)
PEACE,
Andrew
PEACE,
Andrew
MrRoo
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 11:38 PM UTC
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Would you mind sharing your painting/weathering technique to achieve this look???-----or is it a classified Aussie Bum secret????
No secret Steve. What I did with this model was to prime it in a light grey. This served two purposes. One to show any defects. Two the US trucks during WW2 were primed with a grey paint. Then I mixed9 parts of humbrol #66 OD and added at 1 part of humbrol #34 matt white. This was then thinned and AB'ed on as a base coat. This was the last of the AB work for now.
I got two #000 brushes. One a good one and the other a worn one. If you use two good ones you will wreck one of them. Humbrol #66 OD was mixed with a few drops of Humbrol #33 matt black until it looked right. This been not much darker then 'normal' OD. this was thinned a little bit, but not much.
with the 'GOOD' brush I quickly worked a small amount of paint into the resesses around the vents etc. Before the paint had a chance to dry I twisted and dragged the second 'dry' brush around dragging and spreading the paint as well as feathering the edges. This was also done up uder overhangs etc .....anywhere that the paint was likely to still be a more normal color, under tools, behind the spare wheels, under the step plates. If it was not quite right I added a little more paint and repeated the process.
This is almost the opposite to drybrushing the raised areas with a lighter shade of paint. Here you are more or less adding paint and then drybrushing it off, mainly around the panel edges and recesses.
I hope the above helps you do the same effect on your models
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Have you used the salt technik on this baby?
No Ron that is one I have not had a go at yet. All of the tractor unit as well as the trailer to this stage have been paint only.
I hope the above answers your questions
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2003 - 01:58 AM UTC
Brother Pouch:
Thanks for sharing your paint/weathering technique in your reply above. Much appreciated!
In all honesty Cliff , the only additional compliment I can pay you on this build is the fact that I have revisited this thread about ten times just to admire, (and study), the paint and weathering technique on this Federal.
There are a handful of master softskin builders that post regularly to this site, ---you sir, are one of them!
Steve
Thanks for sharing your paint/weathering technique in your reply above. Much appreciated!
In all honesty Cliff , the only additional compliment I can pay you on this build is the fact that I have revisited this thread about ten times just to admire, (and study), the paint and weathering technique on this Federal.
There are a handful of master softskin builders that post regularly to this site, ---you sir, are one of them!
Steve
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2003 - 08:57 AM UTC
Cliff:
Love the truck, looks like a ton of road miles (probably to get Tinnys or Gummy boots)
Anyway I love the use of the ODs for thweather effect. gthe only I see that looks a little soft are the dial faces in the cab, you probably have a better idea on the real thing than I do, but they look a little lost in the dash.
Probably won't matter once the top is on anyway.
Love the truck, looks like a ton of road miles (probably to get Tinnys or Gummy boots)
Anyway I love the use of the ODs for thweather effect. gthe only I see that looks a little soft are the dial faces in the cab, you probably have a better idea on the real thing than I do, but they look a little lost in the dash.
Probably won't matter once the top is on anyway.
MrRoo
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2003 - 09:24 AM UTC
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the only I see that looks a little soft are the dial faces in the cab, you probably have a better idea on the real thing than I do, but they look a little lost in the dash.
Probably won't matter once the top is on anyway.
Hi Mate thanks for the comments. Since those pics were taken I have cut out the dial faces off some old decal sheets I had of the Water tank truck which had a instrument panel decal with it. These dials were then glued in the recesses and when dry a drop of clear varnish was put over them to seal them off. This one is not going to have a top on it (a folded one yes) and the windscreen will be folded down. So to me it was important to have the dash look right.
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:31 AM UTC
Mr Roo thank you for explaining the paint techniks, I will try it also some day in the future.