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Airbornes with Howitzer
Venom
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 06:03 AM UTC
hi guys
where I can find infos about the new campaigns? because in the campaigns page there aren't infos about under the sun or market garden campaigns
But the really question is:
for the market garden campaign I want to do a small scena with 3 or 4 airbones whit a heavy gun...someone know if in the operation market garden with the paratroops was lunch or landed with a plane a 105mm howitzer gun? it's possible?
or this type of gun was used only by artillery?
regards
skytrainboy
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 08:06 AM UTC
i know that during the d day landing the glider carried 105 and other artillery pieces but they were only in the gliders not by C 47 cause i seen it in a book i have and read it
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 08:20 AM UTC
The 320th Glider Field Artillery Battalion was issued the M3 105mm howitzer which took part in D-Day also participated in Operation Market Garden.
On the 18th and 19th of September 1944 the Battalion landed by glider in the vicinity of Groesbeck, Holland. They supported the 325th Glider Infantry in clearing the area of German forces and holding the division sector for the advancing Guards Armored Force of His Majesty's Forces. The Battalion also fired in support of the 2nd Battalion, 505th PIR during its successful effort to establish the first bridgehead across the Waal River at Nijmegen.

You can read more about it here: Remember September '44

M3 105mm Howitzer used by the 320th Glider Field Artillery Battalion.

HTH
Venom
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 05:52 PM UTC
Thanks guys..
remember september 44 is a very nice site, with a lot of inos...thanks kencelot

regards
Eagle
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 06:01 PM UTC
Venom,

the British Airbornes used the 75mm Pack Howitzer in Oosterbeek during Market Garden. The Howitzers where flown in with Horsa Gilders and where towed by Airborne Jeeps.




The Pack Howitzer I'm working on right now

I want to point out that the Market Garden Campaign you are refering to will be an official Campaign in the Dutch Section. You won't see the Campaign as an official Campaign on the English site. I decided to take the Campaign to the Dutch section, since Campaign rules allowed it over there. I couldn't do it on the English section since the Campaign Area is closed for new Campaigns for the rest of 2003.
jimbrae
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 08:26 PM UTC
I'm not going to add anything to the excellent comments by Kencelot and Eagle. One thing that many people find confusing is what constituted a British Para during WW2. Virtually all arms, Royal Artillery, RAOC, RAMC, REME etc, contributed units to the parachute divisions. This meant that the personnel in Artillery for example, maintained their speciality but cross-trained as Airborne troops. Basically an Airborne division was composed of the following elements:

Two Parachute Brigades (air-dropped)

One Airlanding Brigade (Glider-borne)

three artillery regiments (Glider-borne) Anti-tank, Light Artillery and Light AA.

three RASC (Royal Army Service Corps) Light Companies

Four RE (Royal Engineers) units, comprising 2 parachute squadrons, 1 field company and 1 Field Park company.

One RAOC (Royal Armoured Ordnance Corps) Divisional Field Park

One (REME) Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Divisional workshop

Three RAMC (Royal Armoured Medical Corps) units, 2 parachute field ambulance and one (glider-landed) field ambulance.

In total, 12,416 Officers and other ranks. Artillery was composed of 23 20mm cannon (Polstein), 27 75mm pack howitzers, 84 6lb AT guns and 16 17lb AT guns...

So in summary, regiments supplied units for the 2 airborne divisions, the 1st airborne was deployed to Arnhem, the 6th in Normandy and the Rhine Crossing in April 1945.

If anyone needs information on Organisation, weaponry or uniforms, can I strongly suggest they buy the two volumes of Histoire and Collections (The British Soldier 1944-45) both of which are indispensable and available from Amazon UK.... Jim
Venom
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 06:28 AM UTC
thank you very much for the infos guys, you hare very helpfull

eagle: thanks for your private message

regards from italy
Eagle
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 06:30 AM UTC
Venom,

No problem. I hope to see your name on the list of people who are going to join the "Remember Market Garden" Campaign.
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 06:36 PM UTC
Eagle regarding the 75mm howitzer, where did yours come from? I seem to remember it from somewhere but I'm not sure where.... Thanks, JIm

P.S. regarding the Tetrach, so far the info. I have is that it wasn't used in Arnhem, can anyone confirm or prove the contrary?
Golikell
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 08:14 PM UTC
Hey Danny,
Your Howitzer looks pretty good, you certainly did more modelling than me (none) since Geel.
Eagle
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 08:25 PM UTC
Thanks Erwin,

but I might say it was a heck of a job getting it so far .... Filing and sanding filled my days
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