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first post - captured m13/40 tamiya
Klaatu-barada-nikto
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - 10:43 PM UTC
Ok - long time reader,first time poster etc etc

This is my first real build in about 15 years, my first attempt at using pigments, and oil washes.

I did a bit of research before the build and discovered that the paint scheme suggested for the captured tanks wasnt correct, as the first m13/40s delivered still had their european green scheme. I also noticed that in every single picture i could find of these captured tanks, theyre not just dirty - Theyre FILTHY - hence the pretty solid weathering finish..

I dont have a fancy camera so I apologise for the pic quality, but any feedback would be appreciated ('its crap' doesnt count, i already know that - be gentle)

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lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - 11:44 PM UTC
Good work, Suitably dirty! nice to see another younger modeller on here,

for the pictures, light makes all the difference, pictures taken outside, or in a well lit window will allow the lens to pick out all your details.

for your dust and dirt, its best to build it up layer after layer, and with a logical sense of placement, so, the roof, and flat areas would have a sitting dust build up, and vertical surfaces would have build up from the bottom up,
now I use oils for any dusting, and use pigments only for mud and rust effects.

your off to a great start!
LPj
Babcat
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Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2011 - 05:55 AM UTC
I would agree with LPj. And the better the pictures are, the easier it is to point you in the right direction. Again no need for a high dollar camera, just some good old sunlight will do wonders. I was also thinking, one of the things that I draw on for my weathering and aging, is my days on the farm. Now granted that not everyone grew up on the farm, but google images of old tractors and see what shows up. Nice faded, paint chipped, and a little rusty (side by side with pictures of brand new looking). As with anything you can go too far, but it sure has helped me over the years. I do like it, the subject, the research, it's all there. Keep on building!

Jonathan
Klaatu-barada-nikto
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Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2011 - 07:12 PM UTC
Younger modeller? Been a long while since anyone called me young..

Next time I take photos I'll attempt outdoor shots which will give some natural light.

Initially I was simply going to dust only the horizontal surfaces with pigments - assuming that vertical surfaces would be considerably less dirty (seems to be the case generally with most armoured vehicle photos ive seen) however the particular photos I found of these vehicles in some instances made them appear caked with sand and dirt , not just around the upper hull and running gear, but on the sides of the hull and turret too.. I think in my next build I will be a lot more restrained and stick more to the horizontal surfaces...


Thanks for the feed back guys.. hopefully I can incorperate it into my next build
Il_Colonnello
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Posted: Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 04:36 PM UTC

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Younger modeller? Been a long while since anyone called me young..

Next time I take photos I'll attempt outdoor shots which will give some natural light.

Initially I was simply going to dust only the horizontal surfaces with pigments - assuming that vertical surfaces would be considerably less dirty (seems to be the case generally with most armoured vehicle photos ive seen) however the particular photos I found of these vehicles in some instances made them appear caked with sand and dirt , not just around the upper hull and running gear, but on the sides of the hull and turret too.. I think in my next build I will be a lot more restrained and stick more to the horizontal surfaces...


Thanks for the feed back guys.. hopefully I can incorperate it into my next build



Klaatu Barada Nikto Hello,
I am an Italian Army Tank Officer and I know very well that our tank.
I also know the story of the capture by the Australian units of some of these our tanks, type M13/40, 2 nd Series, and M 11/39.
In fact, I recently made ​​a diorama of an M 11/39 captured, and it is exposed at the site of our club model.
Its link is: http://www.masterminiatures.it/gal/m11-39.php
In particular, when our tanks were landed in Libya, they were immediately painted in yellow sand.
In the first moments of the occupation of North Africa, when there was the paint, the surfaces of the tanks were soiled with diesel fuel on which were strewn sand.
Here is a picture of a tank driver who was busy painting the white Australian kangaroo for the recognition of an M 13/40 captured.
Excuse my bad English, but I studied French and Spanish ... ;-)))
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