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EggMan
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 12:09 AM UTC
I've seen a wide range of tanks, but these i will not be able to authenticate.

http://i1.aijaa.com/b/00377/9652796.jpg

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00777/9652842.jpg

http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00294/9652775.jpg

http://i3.aijaa.com/b/00400/9652794.jpg

http://i7.aijaa.com/b/00369/9652805.jpg

http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00375/9652815.jpg

http://i11.aijaa.com/b/00547/9652845.jpg

http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00931/9652841.jpg

http://i11.aijaa.com/b/00746/9661696.jpg

http://i7.aijaa.com/b/00820/9661705.jpg

http://i9.aijaa.com/b/00806/9652844.jpg

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00798/9661695.jpg

http://i3.aijaa.com/b/00216/9661698.jpg


Cheers,

EggMan
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 12:25 AM UTC
Hi Eggman,

Some very interesting vehicles you've found. I did recognise the fourth one as the New Zealand 'Bob Semple' tank.

Bob Semple Tank

But the rest are just astounding.

Cheers, John
ComaBlack
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 01:03 AM UTC
This is fun!!

#7 is a T55E1 motor carriage

jashby
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 01:08 AM UTC
I agree. It's a bit like plane or train spotting Love to know what #10 is. That's a huge monster.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 01:13 AM UTC



Thanks for sharing. These last two pics are of the Pz III mit Schachtellaufwerk. A prototype using large interleaved wheels. IIRC its a Daimler Benz project, sometimes referred to as ZW40. Built in the 1940s, and planned to replace the current Pz IIIs, but was later dropped. References I've read don't seem to agree on how many were built though. After testing, the prototype(s?) were used for training. Most pics I've seen depict this scene. Cheers
jon_a_its
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 01:16 AM UTC
Interesting: heres' my 8c worth...

1 & 2 psot WW1 era US Infantry/(Marines?) training Vehicles.
3 -?
4, Yes John Ashby, a Bob Semple Tank from Australia.
5 -?
6 Looks like a Russian T34-76 with a look-a-like Tiger 'body' pack' possibly for training?
7 A WW2 era 3in/90mm Gun Carrier, US prototype. One for Gino/Redleg?
8 -Looks US, post WW1 trench crosser/mobile pillbox?
9 Skeleton tank, experimental prototype tank built in 1918 by the Pioneer Tractor Company, Winona, Minnesota.
10 Modern paper panzer?
11 As 1&2, Armoured landship, looks like it's based on the British Triton Land-Tractor
12/13 German WW2 winter assault sledge, no idea if used in combat, taken in the Alps(?) Looks like fun?

The Track looks like a LUCHS, but could be big-wheel PzKw11 or 111, someone correct me please!


EDIT: Simon & Tat beat me to it!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 02:05 AM UTC
#1 is the Venezuelan Tortuga built in 1934.

Here are couple of links identifying some from Eggman's list:

http://newsgenocide.com/?p=1503

http://www.oobject.com/12-strange-tanks-and-armored-vehicles/treffas-wagen-1917/8522/

This one blew me away



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ComaBlack
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 04:12 AM UTC
Thanks for the links, Tat! Between part 1 and part 2 of your first link, it has info on almost every one of the tanks posted. Plus more I've never seen.
redski9316
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 05:06 AM UTC
photoshop is a beautiful thing....
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 05:44 AM UTC

Quoted Text

This is fun!!

#7 is a T55E1 motor carriageé


It looks similar to Gaz 68 prototype

http://denisovets.narod.ru/brone/broneprototips/KSP76_08.jpg

http://www.byroad.ru/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/btr/7.jpg


Quoted Text

1 & 2 psot WW1 era US Infantry/(Marines?) training Vehicles.


Maybe the ugliest tank which I've ever seen
jon_a_its
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 06:36 AM UTC

Quoted Text



This one blew me away



Cheers
Very obvious fake, no room for crew & transmission wouldn't work with a 37mm barrel through it...
lukiftian
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 08:27 AM UTC
8 is a t-34/76 made up to look like a Tiger
rtunk
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 05:49 PM UTC
Hi all,

Picture #8 (http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00931/9652841.jpg) shows a Burstyn Motorgeschütz (Burstyn tank). The Burstyn tank was a small tank with subsidiary wheels on long legs which were supposed to give it trench crossing possibilities. The tank was developed back in 1911 by Günther Burstyn, a pioneer officer in the Austro-Hungarian army. It never evolved further than the paper stage.

For references, see
http://www.doppeladler.com/kuk/burstyn.htm (German only)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Burstyn
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/burstyn_tank.htm

Cheers,
Rainer
Minsk94
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 06:45 PM UTC
Picture #2 - The mock-up of a tank based on C.L.Best Tracklayer model 75 designed by C. L. Best Tractor Company. All photos were made during the maneuvers with California National Guard in 1917(?). Since nobody got interested the actual "real" tank was never build.




Picture #6 - experimental T-34 (1943). During WWII Soviets were experimenting with composite armor (steel and concrete) for Navy ships and tanks. This is one of the experiments. The idea eventually was abandoned.

Apparently Germans were experimenting with concrete armor too

EggMan
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 07:29 AM UTC
Thank you for your responses

Here is more strange tanks.

http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00941/9717289.jpg

http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00220/9717251.jpg

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00368/9717252.jpg

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00871/9717254.jpg

http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00129/9717255.jpg

http://i11.aijaa.com/b/00822/9717256.jpg

http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00341/9717285.jpg

http://i7.aijaa.com/b/00351/9717286.jpg

http://i9.aijaa.com/b/00367/9717287.jpg

http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00554/9717288.jpg

http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00401/9717312.jpg

http://i7.aijaa.com/b/00190/9717313.jpg

http://i7.aijaa.com/b/00087/9717314.jpg

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00977/9717315.jpg
Minsk94
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 08:18 AM UTC
While the first post was interesting now it became a little bit annoying - IMHO.

#1 is the Russian design, called Vezdekhod - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Vezdekhod_diagram.jpg
The rest of them are either experimental versions, or normal production vehicles. You can easy find what is what if you post those images into the google image search. BTW, #4 is a Photoshop, and a very bad one.
thenorm
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 10:39 AM UTC
The very first photo is obviously a very early prototype Dalek, I'm surprised no one knew.
EggMan
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 10:59 AM UTC

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The very first photo is obviously a very early prototype Dalek, I'm surprised no one knew.


I'm not surprised.

It look like a worm.

But thank you for recognizing it
tanknick22
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 11:00 AM UTC

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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 11:04 AM UTC

EggMan
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 11:07 AM UTC

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#4 is a Photoshop, and a very bad one.


I thought it was a genuine

http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00994/9718770.jpg

http://i11.aijaa.com/b/00157/9718768.jpg

http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00814/9718769.jpg

tanknick22
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 11:10 AM UTC

EggMan
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC
Prototype of a Panzer IV rocket launcher:

http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00472/9726214.jpg

Panzer IV with Panzer V gun mantlet:

http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00806/9726211.jpg

The 100th build Panzer IV Ausf. J in the Nibelungenwerke:

http://i9.aijaa.com/b/00957/9726212.jpg
Removed by original poster on 03/08/12 - 02:42:07 (GMT).
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 03:04 PM UTC



Number 10 is an inflatable M19 Twin 40 mm Gun Motor Carriage
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